#bangar

[darkulis]

Following the deaths of Jormag and Primordus in the Elder Dragons' clash at Anvil Rock, Bangar collapsed in his cell and was taken to a field hospital as his body had suffered grisly side effects from the release of the Ice Dragon's corruption. He seems to have survived the process.

Jormag's fallen unfroze Bangar and this is how he looks like now 😂

a sticker commission (inspire by a cat meme) draw by my friend

[mistfallengw2]

Which canon character does Aurelia not respect at all? Why?

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Bangar.

Aurelia saw a glimpse of his true colors way back in her Blood Legion days, after her warband saved and miraculously survived an important mission. They were given special recognition for their bravery, which included an extended leave for recovery and, surprisingly, a summon from the Blood Imperator himself. That was exciting, yet everything they expected but to be subtly pitted against each other in order to obtain higher positions, and Aurelia received particular favoritism as she was the second of the Legionnaire. Still, the warband stuck together, loyal and uninterested in supplanting each other or getting even more divided, even at the cost of gaining the implicit antipathy of Bangar. It wasn't always easy, but at least they had gotten Kouran's wish for his dream fahrar project out of it, so it was worth it.

What happened in IBS was sadly just par for the course, in Aurelia's mind. That old bastard was even more stubborn and arrogant than she remembered, though she never really expected him to be just so gullible as well. Must have been his age, or his old ideas rotting to a similar point.

[queer-as-used-by-tolkien]

‘nother character study on Trahearne because no character study can be comprehensive

Absolutely the difference between people who relate to Trahearne and people who don’t is LONELINESS, and being the weird kid, and being quiet and nerdy. But mostly loneliness. Normal people (as far as I know, since I’m not) are not super lonely. They have friends and acquaintances and such, even if they don’t see them super often or only online.

And, side note, not being able to see and interact with people (as during COVID lockdowns) is DIFFERENT from not having those people to exist in the first place. And a huge chunk of people I think don’t understand that. Like, in my personal life I have the opposite of those things. I have a huge family (eight siblings) and we all live in the same house (it is a big house, don’t worry), so I have PLENTY of actual human interaction and contact and talking to people and living my life, and lockdown couldn’t take that away.

Anyway: being on good terms and friendly with your family, that’s great and all, but there’s something… necessary about outside friendship. It’s a real problem when there’s no one OUTSIDE your family you can be friends with. No one you can be sure cares about you. And you’re trying to find friends, but, again, you’re also naturally the weird kid and also absolutely nerdy, and no one is quite sure what to make of you, and so you never do make any friends.

Enter Trahearne, who has that same situation, and is also, by the dictates of the story he’s in, your best friend.

I latched on to Trahearne initially because he died and because I had to kill him, which was horrible for me even though I couldn’t remember why I cared about him at the time. I knew the story said he was my friend and we’d spent the whole time trying to rescue him, and now I had to kill him, and that was Very Bad.

But I think I CONTINUED to obsess over him because, once I looked into the story as a whole, I related to him so hard. Yeah, he’s supposed to be your best friend, that’s his role in the story, you couldn’t not be his friend, but... if you distance yourself and say the Commander is just simply a faceless character, not your own self, and reframe it as reading a book where you’re purely an outside observer - Trahearne is still a compelling character to people who are truly lonely because he’s lonely, and for a lot of the same reasons, too, in a way that’s widely relatable to people who are lonely.

And his story arc about finding friendship and finally accomplishing his goals in life and even achieving more than he’d ever dreamed of, and finally dying for those people he’d come to care about - THAT’S relatable. That’s so fiercely something I want to happen to ME. That’s wish fulfilment right there. That’s living the dream. That’s skipping the lonely part and setting the story at the time where you finally find friendship.

And then you remember that, actually, he ALSO spent a full twenty-five years of loneliness first that the story never really bothers to explain, but that’s because - well, because the story says “he was alone for twenty-five years” and then it moves on so fast because you’re supposed to fill in the blank with your OWN experience. You’re supposed to relate to him SO much because the story is essentially saying “imagine yourself, all lonely, and then THIS happens” and it’s amazing? It’s what you’ve always wished for? And what’s not to like? I would love to have Trahearne’s situation, to have a real-life friend that I honestly cared about so much I’d die for, because I know - since I’m also the Commander - that the feeling is reciprocated. That relationship is almost a closed circuit in your head.

But also, the way the story gets you to relate to Trahearne so that it can build on your own experience that way? Leaving his past a blank slate so you can relate to him as hard as you need to? That’s - I mean that should be the high aim of all literature, honestly. To say “imagine yourself, in this particular area of life, and now imagine this new development!” This is my new philosophy: Literature is supposed to be fan-fiction of real life. And good literature can be fan-fiction of the life of anyone in the target audience (or broader), and the only requirement is that you suspend your disbelief in the details. It’s the feelings that really count, and in order to have those you need relatability.

But what if you DON’T have relatability? What if you’re not the target audience? What happens when you’re NOT a lonely person? You have friends, you have a social life, you’re fine. Trahearne then becomes offensive to you, because the story is treating him like he’s supposed to be you - like you’re supposed to relate to him, and you DON’T, and there’s this jarring disconnect, and you can’t even begin to comprehend why the story is treating him as someone who’s so important. And if you’re only playing for the story, well then, you leave, because it’s not your thing. But if you’re here for the game and the min-maxing and stats, and you’re playing the story for achieves, levels, and loot, well, you’re stuck, and you’re bitter, and now you’re a hater.

And that’s really the real tragedy here - not that Trahearne’s fate was shaped by haters, but that Trahearne’s fate was shaped by people for whom his story was not even intended in the first place. If the story was aimed at you and you hated it, that’s one thing; another thing entirely to count the opinion of people who are forced to be here as valid.

The story is and should be for the people who want to be here. In fact, everything should be only for the people who want to be there. I mean it’s even the philosophy behind our entire government - that in order to be valid you need the consent of the governed. I could write a whole essay on why school shouldn’t be mandatory, because if you don’t want to be there you won’t learn anything. The people who don’t want to be there shouldn’t shape the thing they’re part of.

The thing should be shaped by the people it’s designed for, otherwise you’ll get the people it’s designed for - the target audience, the marketing demographic, etc - you’ll get them up in arms and hating you, and nobody wants that. Everyone should be working towards peace. But that’s what we see with the GW2 fandom and Anet - the people who don’t want to be in the story complaining, and Anet listening to them and changing it, and the people who really care - the people for whom Trahearne’s story was written - WE are hurt.

I could do some meta-analysis on how this is a - to borrow a phrase from another fandom - another turning of the Wheel, that we’re lonely, that we’re the overlooked ones, the ignored ones, and we had this beautiful story lovingly crafted for us, knowing we’re quiet and don’t talk much and aren’t that confident talking in front of people - but now even that is yanked out of our hands by the people who manage to be louder, talk more and better and are good at enthusiastically expressing how much they care about everyone - except us lonely folks.

But - back to Trahearne - the story leaves out his backstory because that’s the key. All you need to know is that he was lonely. If there was more details we wouldn’t be able to relate so much. And yet, because we relate so hard, we desperately need and yearn for that very backstory. We want even further validation, because Anet has proven they know us extremely well, and we trust they’ll continue to deliver. Usually fans would get this fulfilment from sequels, but Trahearne is dead so there is no more going forward, only back. But his story is sort of dependent on that blank slate, so there really is nowhere else to go with him unless he comes back, and maybe that’s why nobody writes fic about Trahearne’s past, only about him not dying, or coming back - because his unexplored backstory is the cornerstone of the reason we care in the first place.

I used to be afraid that once I’d played all the missions Trahearne was in (back before I’d done all the sylvari missions) that I’d lose my obsession over him, that I’d stop caring because there was nothing more to learn. I’ve since found there was no danger of that, but it may have stemmed from the fact that, for me who mains a human character, playing the sylvari missions was delving into his backstory. And it was; but not too much. You gotta hand it to Anet, they’re good at this. I surrender my emotions to them every time I step into a story mission. I have to trust they’ll take care of my emotions properly.

Anet did everything so perfectly with Trahearne, coaxing you into trusting them, that not only was his death a shock, it was a betrayal of that trust. It wasn’t only that his death was wrong, it was that it was done so poorly, which again would be the subject of another post. His death wasn’t the problem.

I remember one day I logged in to play a story mission and I said to myself “I know I’m putting my emotions in Anet’s hands with this one” and that very mission was Darkrime Delves (I didn’t know that ahead of time) and it was a rollercoaster, it was brilliant, it was amazing; it brought me close to the edge of panic I’d once felt for Trahearne, and threaded through it all the knowledge Almorra was dying whether I did it or not, they had me fight it out, gave me the opportunity to die rather than kill my leader (but then, hey, you gotta come back and finish the fight - ) and then I didn’t have to kill her after all, Bangar came and killed her and stole all that anger and fear and terror and pointed it all at himself like a spotlight. It was a BRILLIANT handling of my emotions, an amazing catharsis for Trahearne’s death. And Trahearne’s death was just. hi. you win. you gotta kill him now and it was short and brutal and they didn’t even TRY. The dying isn’t the bad part (although I will hate Bangar until the end of my days). It’s how the dying is handled. I hate Bangar for Almorra’s death, but who do I hate for Trahearne’s death? Not Mordremoth. Not myself. No, Anet bears the full brunt of my anger for Trahearne’s death, because as the storytellers THEY were at fault for how it was handled.

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I don’t know where I wanted to go with this post, I wrote it at midnight in a fit of passion - you can tell it's not my usual writing style and might not be as good as usual - and so it’s bounced between several separate subjects and has no proper ending tying it all together, but hey. this is a glimpse into my Midnight Trahearne Thoughts (also partially spurred by that Homeric hymn I had to write).

[gears2gnomes]

The Villain Behind

“Keeping an eye on the true mastermind behind the villain.”

[commander-coppercogg]

GW2 Creator Week [day 1, dragon]

I originally wanted to write up a short little scene that happened between Bertie and Jormag during Icebrood Saga. It would have been the only actual conversation my main Commander ever had with any of the (original) Elder Dragons and I think it would have showed a lot about Bertie’s character. But then work was absolutely crazy the past few days and I didn’t get the chance. So instead I offer one of my favorite screenshots of Bertie and the newest Elder Dragon and his adopted progeny, Aurene and a few lines from the rough draft of the story.

“One question. Answer me one question completely honestly. No lies, no manipulation. In return, I will consider allying with you.” Bertie stood arms crossed, green eyes narrowed behind his glasses as he stared down the Voice of Jormag.

Bangar’s head contorted sharply to one side as Jormag considered for a moment. The silence hung in the air like the clouded breath of a creature freezing to death. “I find it hard to believe you would offer me such a agreement unless you were certain you could win. But you’ve piqued my interest, Bertram. We have an accord. Ask your question.”

“Falooaloo.” He almost spat the word out, feeling almost a decade of anger burn against the inside of skin. It felt strong enough to melt every shard of ice in Bjora Marches.

The ice rimmed charr stared down at the asura before the slack jaw spoke. “That…is not a question.”

“And that was not an answer.”

[diesvitae]

12. Shiver They know his deepest fears. They know his fiery spirit. They know who he loves and who he hates. They know him, he can trust them. And yet their promises and whispers sent only cold shivers to his spine.

Inspired by the Icebrood Saga’s trailer, I think a Dev said somewhere Jormag was talking to Bangar there, not us.

[reuniclue]

Here’s a script of the new Bangar convo from today. Still no voice acting.

Commander: Bangar. I'd like to talk -- unless you're still sulking. Bangar: Come to check on my accommodations? Not to worry. Time of my life. Best cage i've ever been in. Plush. Bangar: If you're here to gloat, though... You'll have to get in line behind the big blue dragon and my former protege. Bangar: Trust is in short supply at the moment. I get it. Believe me, I don't trust any of you either. Bangar: On the other hand, if anyone's trust has been abused, it's mine. Did I lie? Did I ever break my word? Bangar: I told everyone exactly what I wanted and what I would do to get it. That kind of candor is rare these days. Bangar: And what thanks do I get? Jormag screws me over. Disfigures me! Hands the reigns to my blazing apprentice... Bangar: So you can wipe that self-superior look off of your face. I'm the aggravated party here. You don't get to judge me.

Commander: Jormag and Ryland... How did THAT happen? Bangar: I should've seen it coming. kid turned out to be more ambitious than I realized. He learned from the best. Bangar: And you people pushed him. His warband, Cinder, that was a big mistake. You made it personal. Bangar: Or Smodur did. To Ryland? Distinction without a difference.

Commander: You think Jormag always meant to use you? Bangar: I don't know... You asked me before this, I would have said no chance. No one "mind controls" Bangar Ruinbringer. Bangar: But the way it played out... Was there an infection point, a specific moment when...? If there was, I don't know. Bangar: I never felt for one second like my mind wasn't my own. But... I heard the whispers. Maybe that's all it takes. Bangar: Funny thing: anybody mentioned whispers to Ryland? He genuinely appeared to have no idea what they were on about. Bangar: He might have been the one person Jormag DIDN'T whisper to. Yet Jormag chooses him... I think about that a lot. Bangar: Jormag doesn't make you do anything. It doesn't have to. All it has to do is persuade you to want what it wants. Bangar: And if you want it already? So much the better. No need for whispers. Bangar: At this point, I think that's as much insight into Ryland Steelcatcher as you're ever gonna get.

[lost-wayfinder]

yet another reason why bangar fucking shot her