#be'lal

[queen-of-andor]

I'd like to see the forsaken isolated in a reality show, where everyone will try to make alliances but also betray everyone. And only one can win in the end.

[moghedien]

Which Forsaken is the most likely to be a streamer?

Aginor or Balthamel

Asmodean

Be'lal

Demandred

Graendal

Ishamael

Lanfear

Mesaana

Moghedien

Rahvin

Sammael

Semirhage

Voting ended onMar 29, 2025

[wot-tidbits]

Character designs by the Dire Wolf for Wheel of Time Tabletop game “War of the Dragon”.

Concept art and character design by Raul Ramos

[beyond-far-horizons]

Favourite Forsaken moment with the rest of the characters?

Spoilers for all the books...I'm doing yet another reread (or rather a listen to the audiobooks this time) and as usual fixated on some of my favourite characters - the Forsaken. Rand obviously has some amazing moments with them, but what are your favourites across the series from the rest of the crew (books only please)?

Here's a few of mine:

Ishamael (in a change up from the usual dramatic threatening) attempting to remember how to human with Perrin in a dreamshard inn, as he tries to convince him to give up the axe and then drink a cup of obviously evil wine. Not sure what the plan was here, but it's hilariously awkward (and then he just lets him go - why?? First date -evil wine, second date - Grey men attack? Ishy, what is your problem?).

Perrin again dreaming in The Dragon Reborn and randomly witnessing Rahvin and Be'lal having a hissing match with each other then Ishamael, who loses it with both of them and ends the argument with giant rolling wave of darkness (his preferred ending to any conversation??).

Mat in the same book managing to not only escape being tortured by Rahvin, but getting a laugh and a fat purse of gold from him too, which Mat proceeds to use to defeat the Forsaken's maniacal schemes.

Nynaeve (any Nynaeve moment with a Forsaken really) in the first book immediately going for Aginor with a belt knife, whilst he's using the Power no less, just because he's hurt Lan.

Lanfear cosplaying as old crone/retainer straight out of a fairytale to help Egwene in Tel'aran'rhiod and getting irritated with her when she realised Egwene doesn't know how to use the ring to leave the Dream. Then she has to save her from Be'lal (these dense Lightsiders, Great Lord!).

Lanfear again putting her acting skills to good use as she cosplays a fat (but curiously light) peddler and then sells the Aiel things - apparently doing a brisk trade - as well as selling Mat his famous hat whilst making jibes about women to both him and Rand.

I could go on...

[thenotoriousscuttlecliff]

The one major downside of the show (understandably) trimming the number of Forsaken is we won't get Be'lal's hilarious instant death.

[vorbarrsultana]

tier list of rand x various forsaken dynamics. one day i'll elaborate, i promise.

his other half (derogatory): rand & moridin (ishamael)

canonically great: rand & lanfear, rand & demandred, rand & asmodean

potentially great: rand & sammael, rand & semirhage

could be interesting: rand & graendal, rand & aginor

no, just no: rand & rahvin, rand & mesaana, rand & moghedien

be'lal: rand & be'lal, rand & balthamel

[asha-mage]

Another random thought: since the Forsaken where sealed separately from The Dark One in the show and as part of a targeted strike (likely in preparation for the attack on The Bore) that means they are the Forsaken LTT thought where the most dangerous and that he needed to knock off the board before proceeding to his boss fight.

That means that any Forsaken the show cuts is one Lews Therin didn't think was worth bothering with.

[iliiuan]

The High Lord Samon (aka Be'lal) wants to bring the Accepted and Novices to the Stone. Presumably to turn them to the Shadow. What a plan. This might be both the best concept and the worst consideration of logistics from a Forsaken.