Some background: assume lot canon is vaguely competent and that everyone lives or is happy.
Dusk falls around them, the night sky coming on as Sara waits for Rip to pay for dinner.
“You could have paid for that yourself,” Rip tells her, food in hand.
“I can’t open a bank account,” Sara reminds him. It turns out there were down sides to being declared legally dead twice.
“Didn’t you have one in the past?”
Sara just glares at him.
Around them, though, the DC skyline shines. Included in it, the Time Bureau headquarters.
Rip glares at the building.
Sara sighs, exasperated. “Don’t be an asshole,” she tells him quietly as they pass the building. She ropes her elbow through his, speed walking him past its vicinity. “Asshole,” she adds a little later.
“I didn’t say anything,” he mutters, turning his head back to give it a dirty look.
Sara rolls her eyes. “You didn’t have to.”
“What did you think I was going to do—” Rip replies, handing the food off to Sara—“break into the directors office and leak personnel related information to time pirates?”
Sara looks at him, partially amused, partially scandalized. “Tell me you wouldn’t do that.” Slower, now. “Promise me you wouldn’t do that.”
“I wasn’t seriously considering it, Sara.”
Sara looks skeptical. “But you could pull it off?”
Rip opens the door to his apartment. “We could pull it off.”
Z - Just ramble about something fan-related, go go go
Babe, I think you know this topic, it’s been the source of a majority of our discussions, but here goes:
I’ve been on a legends bent for a while now and currently, I’m working on a roman holiday au for rip and sara, and long story short, legends has been my primary stomping ground, and thy name is regret.
The topic: Legends, as a whole. I ramble, a lot.
I’m caught up on season 4 spoilers and what bits and bobs that have been released, and oh boy does it stink. It stinks badly, like a rot that grows because no one gives a shit, and when people do realize, they throw a tantrum because only now do they care to actually acknowledge the problem they’ve been skimming over cause 1) they can 2) they don’t care beyond their limited scope and 3) my personal favorite, it’s a fun show! It shouldn’t take itself seriously!
The legends have broken time twice now, mind you.
Other things I’ve seen that make me regret blogging legends since season one: praising 2x04 as the episode ‘that freed the slaves’, while ignoring the fact that jax and amaya were enslaved, completely skimming over the blaring obvious dog whistles of season 3 (my grievances in no particular order: the killing of martin stein, writing off jax the next episode, white washing the deep south in the 1950s, the casual killing of an asian man of color, the biphobia in that constantine/ava exchange, and on and on. season 3 was great, y’all.)
Maybe it’s just the s1/s2 and s3/s4 divide that’s showing, but what rings clear is how much people are willing to excuse low-key racism. And I know the gut reaction to such a charge is ‘oh, those fans are at again, they need to chill out or leave’ but really? really?
The group of fans I’m thinking of are Those people- scary enough that when there isn’t a pleasant reaction, shade and talk about it in private or risk your inbox being bombarded with a shitton of, well, anything you’d expect.
And god forbid y’all have something that doesn’t go your way. flo left willingly? the supergirl writers are conspiring against you! ruby rose got cast as kate and left twitter because people had the nerve to call her out for taking the role despite not being jewish? it’s just fandom being toxic and hating wlw, right?
That’s a topic for another day, but talk about loose canons. Wild.
Legends had tone-deaf writing in seasons one and two, no doubt about it. I’ve always envisioned it as an escalation of sorts- season one is light in it and there’s nothing too egregious (same level you’d find elsewhere), season two you could mostly block it out since it was the filler episodes (guggenheim wrote the slavery one, no no one’s surprise), but season three just didn’t care.
I don’t think the writers knew what they were doing that season; they listened to the most vocal group of fans (no shit) and the result is as expected. the amaya plot that set up the season got pushed to the sidelines for the ava plot, and the plot with rip and mallus was ignored until the very last two episodes cause hey, they learning from supergirl writers what pacing is. It’s great story telling, really.
I’m not sure what Zari’s plot was. It really did seem like they were pushing for a romance with one of the waverider crew men (ray or wally, it seemed like) but that got merged with her finding her fit on the team and that result was, well, something. Awkward, but it established her as member of the team.
A quick warming before y’all read this next bit: don’t come into my inbox being total assholes. This is a read more post, and if you’re still reading, this post either gets agreement or more likely, gets dragged on tumblr/twitter for being completely wrong. Please leave me out of it.
Sara and Ava’s plot was so convoluted; they say I love you after two weeks of dating/fucking/whatever and that’s.. hell, even christian dating takes longer than that. 3a and 3b were so starkly different in dynamics: 3b does a one eighty and makes this barely-tolerating-each-other/we-probably-still-hate-each-other-lbr dynamic into crushing because well, logic. Dunno. The two of them honestly look like siblings and it’s not written very well, romance wise. The characters don’t mesh.
Ray and Nora just reminds how much I miss kendra/ray in terms of healthy relationships that actually communicate and aren’t nora looking so fucking annoyed at him. but hey, the fans wanted it and the fans got it. can’t forget that particular part.
Rip Hunter deserved a better plot, end of story, no questions asked. That topic could get it’s own essay ffs, so. Fun.
One last thing, before I finish: the fandom this season makes me long for the days of captain canary and listen, I’ve been blocked by several big source blogs ‘cause of the cc (and other) wank. Classy stuff all around, but at least I knew the CCers wouldn’t go for personal attacks, not like the s3 lot.
With that, a long answer no one really needs to know, ever.
bitfairytaled replied to your post: on top of the nasty amy/rory arc in asylum of the...
god that outfit was terrible not only it didn’t fit amy, but because it was simply ugly efesdfsdgsksdjsadj
the whole package is just HIDEOUS, between the raccoon eyeliner (relative to a bare face in S5 and neutral makeup in S6) and weird leather getup, it literally looks like karen is playing a different role...S7 is just one episode after another of moffat trying to emphasize that amy is Older Now in hopes the audience will throw away all their preconceived notions about her and he can just do whatever he wants and claim it’s in character and what she would have wanted
