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If it’s okay, I’m going to reply to both of these due to their similarity. I think I kinda spat out a hot take without really expanding on it. Personally, I can honestly only speak for myself when I say that I believe that RM can be hypocritical. Namely in the way that he expresses the ‘love yourself’ message. Black fans in particular have never been accepted within the ARMY community, and it shows when non-black fans will say some of the most hurtful things and there is no repercussions for their actions. There is no acceptance of responsibility or apologies. Nothing. 


I find it interesting that this same group used to be so into hip-hop and when they found that they could be popular without it they dropped it. It’s the classic ‘I love the culture, not the people’, and there is a large segment of ARMY that are black fans,yet the difficulties that they face within the fandom are never addressed. I am skeptical in how RM will say that their fans should ‘love themselves’ but he and BTS as a whole can’t love or even acknowledge a segment of their fandom.

I can understand that people feel really connected to the ‘love yourself’ message and it is a beautiful sentiment. However, it rings a bit hollow for me and I know I can be a bit cynical, but I can’t really get behind it.  I know that I am addressing the whole of BTS, but I feel that if the ‘love yourself’ message is supported by all the members then why not address them all.

Please don’t think that I don’t like BTS, I enjoy their music and really like their performances, but it’s just the way that fandom works and their hand in it that I do not like.

-Admin Tes

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I don't understand why certain army's think that Wale is after Namjoon's fame? As if Wale isn't a mainstream rapper who already has an established fan-base. Rubs me the wrong way tbh, also I can't be the only Kpop fan who gets embarrassed at the desperation after western validation? Truth be told, the west isn't checking for Kpop and vice-versa and I wish stans would understand this instead of turning it into a competition of which Kpop idols get the most western validation.

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I don't know why everyone keeps sweeping namjoon's long list of problematic behavior under the rug under the guise of him having 'apologized'. The most important part of an apology is to say what it is you're sorry for. Otherwise we can't know if you're actually sorry for the things you did or just saying it. Whether he's too ashamed or it was just another empty closing comment, like 'we'll work harder', etc; don't act like he's woke or he's better than any of these guys. That's not an apology.

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This is the problematic nj post I was talking about: mojozozoeffie tumblr com/post/161878380803/problematic-namjoon

All of this is fair enough, I guess? The only thing that was kind of grossly generalized was the comments about colorism in America being a racial thing. Like in some cases yes, but for most things, it’s inner-racial. Light skinned black people being ugly to dark skinned black people; lighter skinned Latinxs being ugly to dark skinned Latinxs (esp. Afro-Latinxs, as I’ve been told). 

There was also the mention of the n-word incident with the Shinhwa song. I have questions more for the network than I have for Rapmon tbh. Like we found out that they (Shinhwa) removed the n-word from the song and for some reason the network decided to have BTS cover the old...unchanged version...why? It was changed for a reason.

With all that being said, no matter how much you dislike an idol, please please don’t leave death threats. That’s not okay. I agree with that. Secondly, if a person chooses to continue disliking Namjoon, then that’s their choice and no justification can change or alter that (unless they choose to change their mind)

Link to post here. 

-Admin Kim 

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I feel like I might get hate because I know he has done problematic stuff in the past, and I used to not like him, but these days I really like RapMonster's leadership and he's just been shining lately. I'm proud of his growth and hope he has changed a lot from his past self (i mainly mean the him he doesn't show in public because it's easier to act good but it's another thing to actually change)

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I saw an unpopular opinion recently from someone talking about how they don't like how rap monster tries too hard to sound "ghetto". These fans will brag about how good he is as a rapper. But outside of that if he does something you associate negatively with black people (cuz that's what ghetto really means) you have a problem. He learned his English from rap music, there isn't anything wrong with the way he speaks because you don't think it's "proper". So sick of anti black Kpop fans.

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namjoon should be criticized for the racist and sexist things he has said and done, but one thing he always gets shit for that i don't feel is justified is his "colorist comments" because... he is darkskin... he is the darkest member of bts... isn't he allowed to make those kind of jokes? i can't believe namjoon talking about his members who are lighter than him is compared to say chanyeol talking about his members who are much darker than him. or is it just me who thinks it's totally different?