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Nick Fury: If we're going to defeat thanos, we're going to need an ... *turns to look out window* Unconventional approach...

Get me a ride to the tower.

Tony: uh, we're all here though. All thats left of us, at least.

Nick: No... The Warner Brothers Water Tower...

*Cut to Yako, Whacko and Dot at a mission table with the avengers*

Yako: so we get him to call Dot "Dottie". Plain and simple.

Banner: ... Okay this doesnt make any sense.

Dot: If you call me Dottie, you die.

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Hi, What are things that make you see canon dc more positive than others? For me it's 9x22 because there is nothing that can convice we they didn't know how destiel camecross. The "he's in love" was blatanly different pronounced than "with humanity" and the pause was audible. "I cant" scene carbon copy of of the romantic couple of carvers previous show, the orinigal script even including the naked Deans in Cas' heaven. I dont think Carver would allow this if he wouldnt somehow support Destiel

They know exactly what they're doing. Anyone who thinks all the Destiel content and structure is just coincidence is either plain not paying attention or purposely overlooking it with almost admirable determination (and clenched teeth).How savvy are TPTB? Misha talked about queerbaiting, giving me the impression he didn't quite understand what we meant by it, but he really felt the show as a whole was innocent of it. I do make the assumption his attitude goes for the writers room pretty much – or did, back then, because that was over a year ago. Robbie Thompson clearly enjoys lurking on tumblr and flaunting his hipness with all the fandom lingo (we gotta understand that half of the lines in Fan Fiction were gobbledygook to viewers outside fandom). Robert Berens (hired just before season 9) is gay, and judging from his Twitter intensely intellectual and well-read – I can't imagine he would be unaware of the issue of queerbaiting. The drastically different treatment of female characters in s10 shows that TPTB really have listened and heard our complaints and are changing the way they write rather than engaging in debates on social media forums, which is so much better than anything I dared hope for. All this is making me think that even if they were unaware of the problem with queerbaiting before, they do understand it now. So, supposing they became educated on queerbaiting some time in the past year, did that make them change what they're doing? People are very divided on that question. Unlike s8, Cas and Dean have had very little screentime together in s9 and s10a, so that could be an attempt at backing off. On the other hand, their storylines and their relationship only get more romantic all the time. If I was TPTB and I wanted to deflect shipping, there's a glaringly obvious, easy way to do that in my opinion. Let's say I'm writing Meta Fiction, and I'm writing a scene where Cas is forced to choose between his angel army and Dean. You know what would be a non-shippy, but just as effective otherwise, way to write that? Make Cas choose between his angel army and the Winchesters. Both of them. Sam and Dean. Not "you did it all for one human... ultimately it was all about saving Dean Winchester." Why on EARTH would I write dialogue like that, if I in any way whatsoever wanted to steer people away from shipping it? Or even if I just wanted to let people keep shipping it if they so chose, but not actively spur it on??So, the writers are clearly inserting Destiel on purpose, and in Carver era they have deepened it from throwaway lines and gay jokes to an integral part of the structure and the only remaining relationship on the show that is equal to Sam and Dean's in importance. Of this I'm completely certain. Just as the brotherhood keeps getting tested and strained but comes back every time, the same thing keeps happening to the profound bond, and just like the brother bond, it's not going to break. Cas also has a separate relationship with Sam. It's a strong bond of trust and friendship. It's not on the same level as the brother bond or the profound bond – I'd place it around the level of the three-way bond between Sam, Dean and Charlie. The fact that the two bonds – Cas-Dean and Cas-Sam – are so clearly separated and depicted as different, also serves to accentuate the paramount importance of his bond with Dean.So could they resolve it by killing off Cas? You know, if I was just watching the show and didn't know anything about the mechanics or people behind it, I'd be worried about that. Everyone dies on Supernatural. Being close to the brothers is no guarantee of survival – John Winchester died, Bobby Singer died. It's not an ensemble show and never will be. I know a lot of people want it to be, but it's not going to happen because a) it was never conceived as such, and b) they don't have the budget for it. Carver has set up Cas to be a beacon for the brothers, the one to lead them forward on their emotional journey – so it would make sense to make him a martyr, wouldn't it? Give Cas a beautiful final episode where he sacrifices himself for Dean and Sam (but mostly Dean). Give the shippers some really strong, half-canon gesture in Cas's dying moments, and then swiftly move on. Shipping problem solved. Narratively satisfying. BUT – behind the scenes, it would be monumentally stupid to axe Misha from the show. They tried killing off Cas once, the ratings immediately took a nosedive, and the only thing keeping the show on the air was a hasty resurrection. It seems clear to me that Misha genuinely wants to continue on Spn as long as possible – he's talked about directing in season 11 – and as long as they can afford him, they'll hold on to him if they have any sense. Misha's popularity has outgrown the entire show's! I would be extremely surprised if Misha didn't stay on till the end.So. Destiel is there, and it's there to stay. Only one question remains: will it remain subtext or go canon?I do think a very good case can be made for eventual canon. Personally I can't see it happening, but I hope I'm wrong. I frequently am, so don't let my beliefs get you down. And it's hard for me to outline the reasons why I'm skeptical – it's a gut feeling based on my view of American culture and TV, which is iffy in itself from my vantage point in Sweden. I don't get the difference between various networks and broadcasting types and airing times and whatever that Americans do – when your TV shows reach us here in Sweden, it's all a jumble. All I can say, when I watch queer relationships effortlessly and openly portrayed on shows like Glee and As the World Turns (before it was cancelled) and Happy Endings and whatever, is that those shows seem to represent the 21st century while Supernatural is in so many ways a child of the 20th. Queer subtext wouldn't work at all on a modern show, because the characters just wouldn't stand for it. They'd call it out explicitly within five minutes. But Supernatural is from the era of the 1990s and earlier, when queer subtext was a rich, earthy layer to add to your show. Yes, the show started in 2005, but it wasn't a child of its time even then – and by now, it's a relic. It's symptomatic that Dean, the heart of the show, only likes cars from the 60s and music from the 70s and 80s.Although. He has evolved in Carver era, hasn't he? He might not be keen to admit it, but his music taste has branched out. Carver has gently made him a more well-rounded character with broader tastes, and nudged him towards our century – I mean, Dean even buys apps now. Maybe that is, in a convoluted way (and don't even ask me how I arrived at this), a good sign for canon Destiel.