Carl Stalling was great. You'd never believed if you met him, he looked and dressed very much like a trolley cart conductor or a bus conductor. He always dressed in blue clothes with a vest, and when he first came out here he surprised everybody because he wore spats [...] He didn't look like he had a sense of humor. You know, and he did. And he was wonderful. And before you started a picture, at least with me, I knew very little about music, I would go in and go through the entire picture with him and get tempos. And within that tempos if it was, say two-twelves or forward, three-quarter time. Well, all I knew then was, if a big accent came in, I learn to put it on a downbeat or whatever it was, and so on. All of our pictures were laid out to musical terms. So when they came in they put the sound effects.
"Now, Carl Stalling and Treg Brown who was also a musician [...] so he and Stalling would work together, and they did something that was very important for any director to remember: if you're going to hit it with music, don't hit it with sound effects, don't let'em muddy each other up. In the same way like in your backgrounds: if your color defines the difference with the house and the sky, don't bother to put a line through it, I mean, the line or the color can take care of it, but not both. You're hitting a double thing in the background.
"Treg Brown prided himself as we furthered along and no sound effect would be appropriate [...] One time, I was something [in a cartoon] that had a bunch of boulders coming towards the camera and he said "I think this calls for a sound effect, I can't quite figure out what to put in there", then he said "Wait a minute. What is the sound the scares you most?". He said that "clang", "clang", "clang" crossing guard. And he said if you start that real low with a "CLANG! CLANG! CLANG! CLANG! CLANG!", off into the distance, it'll really startle you. And then he added, "why don't we do that and then I got a Tarzan yell we could run backwards." And he put that in, and it really worked, you know.