it annoys me for many reasons when people erase jotaro’s blatant misogyny but chief of them is how much depth to the story you lose when you erase that nuance. like jojo is a story about a family, and jotaro is closest to female members of his family (holly and jolyne respectively). the tension of the love he has for them versus the misogynistic coloration of his world view creates a lot of friction for him and explains the bulk of why he acts the way he does toward holly and jolyne both (being cold/aloof if not outright insulting, but showing up in big ways and giving the world to save them both). it also is very important in understanding jolyne and holly’s characters, though especially jolyne. araki says verbatim in a stone ocean sheet that jolyne does not trust men. it really doesnt take much to know jotaro is the cause of that. her relationships with weather anasui and even emporio are colored by it, and it’s why it means so much that jolyne still chose to connect w emporio and weather to the point their lining up is what led to pucci’s defeat (weather’s stand, jolyne’s sacrifice, emporio’s actions in the new universe). also adds interesting commentary to jolyne’s part’s villain being a man. likewise holly developing a stand in the first place is proof to me that she was in theory capable of handling one, but she rejected it and thus it in turn rejected her because she has a warped view of what a woman’s will and fighting spirit should look like due to the era she grew up in, the era of the culture she moved to, and yes, what her family like joseph and jotaro impressed on her (plus some other reasons i extrapolate to conclude but that’s another thing). like it’s such a disservice to all the kujos to pretend jotaro wasn’t misogynistic. and like he does learn better… that’s kinda part of what his whole arc in stone ocean is but like. he def had issues. it’s why it matters that we see him overcome them in stone ocean. it’s why it matters that jotaro breaks the pattern. stocean is all about breaking cycles. ugh it just annoys me so bad when ppl take that away