#cates run

[symbean]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OH MY GOD THIS IS SO AWFUL

like holy shit talk about not understanding lee price AT ALL. i swear, they just took one look at lee, and because he was supposed to be “bad”, decided to make him a generic aggressive madman who gets off on flaunting his power, DESPITE the fact that everything about that is the complete opposite of who lee price is and why he was a bad guy

like, lee was one of my favorite parts of the costa run because he was such an interesting and complex character that really made his mark in the few opening issues, he kicked off some really rich development for the symbiote by contrast, and because of all of that became a character that i genuinely liked, as in, one that i love to hate despite how much of a bastard he is, not dissimilar to carnage (the real carnage)

but the point is there was all this nuance to his character but cates decided to throw all of that out of the window in literally just two pages (just like he did to cletus) and at this point it just feels feels like he’s doing fucking speedruns for “how fast can i assassinate this character”

[marvel-and-moor]

So the latest issue of the cates run seems to hint at something that might have explained this whole mess? Of course that doesn’t matter now since cates had to cut the run short due to issues with his home life,

Basically it seems Titan was placed in Brice’s mind by D’spayre, and that the seed that grew into Titan was given to him through a green door by what looked like the leader but with a baby body?

Now that will probably never got followed up on so I guess it doesn’t really matter, but it seems like cates WAS eventually going to use some things from immortal hulk again? Which makes it all the more strange that he would undo all of the character development and just erase joe fixit with zero explanation, was that something editorial pushed so people wouldn’t get confused with the joe fixit miniseries? Who fucking knows. At least this mess is finally at an end

Yeah I just finished reading it.

It's definitely ... something. It looks like Ryan Ottley kinda took over these last few issues so I wonder how much of this was part of Cate's original idea or what. This issue definitely felt like it was hailing back to Immortal Hulk, what with the Green Door and the way Hulk and Bruce burst out of Titan - that transformation looked a lot like the grotesque twisty ones in Immortal Hulk.

I'm glad it ends with peace for Bruce, that he has a bed and people watching out for him. It feels a little overly simple to just say "we told everyone what happened and everyone knows your safe and none if it is your fault." Like, we didn't get to see the resolution we are just told there was one. But, regardless, I'm glad we're putting Bruce in a place where the rest of the Marvel heroes aren't going to be attacking him.

In terms of consistency and characterization, this run was still a huge mess. I'm glad it's over. But I am not as furious about it's existence anymore. I'm glad they cleared up that Titan is a foreign entity that was placed inside Bruce, and not a part of his DID System. I just hope the next Hulk series is better.

[stephen9260]

I might have expressed myself incorrectly, there are some of them that can read...

[the-symbiote-army]

The Cates run... Is over.

[mushroomsandteeth]

So the Carnage symbiote. Is her name actually Red now? Did someone tell Cates to return her pronouns?

I have not read the comics in a while but in their first appearance if I remember correctly Cletus gave the Carnage symbiote the nickname Red. It has stuck ever since even if it isn't often used in the comics.

As for the pronouns.... eehhhh see the problem with the Cates run is he killed Red early on, gave Cletus the Grendel symbiote, started calling THAT combination Carnage (even though it isn't), killed that symbiote, had it come back for the island arc where it still was referred to as the Carnage symbiote incorrectly, and things only got more confusing from there.

Especially because the Grendel symbiote used male pronouns while Red uses female. And a lot of what Cates wrote he decided to just kinda quietly drop. Like the whole r*pe thing, the memory edits, etc. He kinda would make plot lines and then drop them.

Also from what I remember he isn't writing Venom anymore so this new writer might have just decided that keeping track of all of... that, was too difficult or annoying and just said "oh no Red never died this is Red, always has been."

Comics are complex and annoying

Trdr; Her name has always been Red, Cates did some bullshit and got her pronouns wrong, but he is no longer writing Venom so the new writer might got back to her correct pronouns

[traumatizedkids]

Happy First Anniversary!

Today one year ago, i posted on twitter this doodle who became the comic we all know now.

To celebrate i decided to remake this comic i hope you guys like it:

[lemuelthelemmy]

First he was a Venom Fanboy

But he turned into Venom's Brother

Then in the Son of Venom...

Now...

Venom are they

Son of Venom turned into Venom itself.

[venusinverted]

Symby went in the order of most importance

being vulnerable to their husband > food > the universe