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Descanso crosses, Chupadero, New Mexico

Creator: Tyler Dingee Date: 1950? Negative Number: 120333

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The thought of Josefina and her family losing their land in the aftermath of the Mexican American war sounds horrible! Perhaps it was sold to white Americans. Would she and her family be on the receiving end of racist comments by white Americans who moved into Santa Fe from the east? I found out that during her time period, Americans lynched Mexicas.

The Santa Fe Trail was opened in 1821, after Mexico won independence from Spain. Before that, Spain had forbidden trade with the US, but Mexico had other plans. And so Americans started coming in, and they weren’t exactly giving it glowing reviews at first. 

A lot of the Americans thought of New Mexico as “primitive” and unpleasantly foreign. This was based on a lot of things: the economy was almost entirely trade-based rather than money-based; most everyone was Catholic (as opposed to the largely Protestant USA); they spoke either Spanish or their local indigenous language, or both; women had a lot more legal freedom; music, literature, and art were all different; land ownership was based on what was granted by the Spanish kings. And it looked strange to them, too; buildings were made from a mixture of earth and straw, and were built low to the ground (remember how fascinated Josefina is by the little American farm toy, because the house is so different than what she’s used to seeing?). Among other things. 

Traders coming from the east returned home and described the area with all sorts of negative impressions. There was definitely racism directed at people from here. I like to think that Josefina would have stayed closer to home being a curandera, and not come face-to-face with any of that hatred. And I doubt her sisters would have married anyone who had those sorts of attitudes towards Mexican people.

But this idea of New Mexico as “exotic” is a huge reason why it was denied statehood for so long after becoming a territory in 1848. Easterners thought the people here couldn’t ever be “real” Americans, and would have more loyalty to Mexico, the Pope, and Mexican traditions. It wasn’t until January 6th, 1912 that it was made the 47th state, followed a month later by Arizona becoming the 48th.   

It’s possible the Montoyas could have lost their land, but more likely that they didn’t. I like to think that they didn’t. But shall we take a look and see? (Ready for me to ramble on for a few more paragraphs giving you way more than you asked for? Again???)

So we know that Josefina didn’t live precisely in Santa Fe; her stories state that she is fifteen miles (a whole day’s trip back then) from the city, and five miles from the pueblo where Esteban and Mariana live. Her village is not given a name in her stories, nor is the pueblo. The Montoyas’ land also encompasses a mountain, where they graze their sheep in the summer; not a big mountain, apparently, since they can go up and be back down before late afternoon. But it is part of the Sangre de Cristo range, also according to the story.

Now, we also know that Valerie Tripp and illustrator Jean-Paul Tibbles based the Montoya rancho on the living history museum called El Rancho de las Golondrinas, a little bit southwest of Santa Fe proper. I’ve been there several times and it looks exactly like the illustrations. It’s really neat to see. However, the landscapes don’t match very much. Josefina’s rancho looks a little more hilly and rugged, whereas the area around Las Golondrinas is not. It’s more flat and spread out, not mountainous, not close to any mountains at all. It’s actually in a small town called La Cienega, which is a Spanish word for a sort of marshy area. And the nearest pueblo is either Kewa or Cochiti, both more than five miles away. 

However, if you look at the area north of Santa Fe, that’s a lot more likely to have been where she lived. It’s more hilly, and borders on the Sangre de Cristo mountains. And being within five miles of a pueblo is more realistic. 

My guess is that she would have lived somewhere around the village of Chupadero.

Here’s what I’m looking at:  

This tiny village of a few hundred people is about 12 to 13 miles from Santa Fe downtown. The downtown area is what would have existed of the city in 1821 (although the oldest buildings there date from the early 1600s) and so if Josefina’s rancho is a mile from the village, as her books state, that would put her at roughly 13 to 14 miles from Santa Fe. 

And, as you can see, this location is approximately five-ish miles from Tesuque Pueblo.

(I’m getting to your question. I promise.)

The stream mentioned in the stories, where the Montoya girls do laundry? That could be the Rio en Medio. This is also the name of the village (population 131) that sits on the river. 

Look how close these villages are to the mountains!

Now most of this area isn’t on Google Street View because it’s so rural, but check out this lovely side street in the village of Chupadero, with this house surrounded by open land:

That’s……. basically Josefina’s stomping grounds. Except for the unusual cloudy sky (we have over 300 days of sunshine a year out here) it looks so much like the illustrations. 

To answer your question: it looks like this area is all private land, with a lot of ranches surrounding isolated homesteads. Having driven through villages like these quite a lot, I can tell you with much certainty that most of these homes and their properties in villages like these have been in the family for generations. The house in the previous photo looks newer, but that’s uncommon for this area. And it looks there’s some kind of resort nearby, but otherwise, it looks like all family-owned land. 

So, I’m going to go ahead and declare that…

YES 

The Montoyas kept their land and it’s still owned by their descendants.

Thank you for reading all of this if you made it to the end!

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