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Couldn’t choose just one, so here’s four 1899 memes in the B99 template
Not sure who here is still having 1899 thoughts but I have a theory I'm chewing over
That triangle symbol that's everywhere... Dark taught us that Bo and Jantje like a good symbol with structural significance to the show. So I've been wondering what the triange could indicate, and here's my current proposal
(Spoilers for the series below!)
Three keys
You know how in Stranger Things s3 (stay with me) when Joyce and Hopper try and shut down the gate and they need to both turn keys in order to do so, because the system is designed so one person alone can't switch it off? What if the simulation is like that? Maura's key opened one section, but like a puzzle box it's only opened up a new puzzle to open?
I'm playing with the idea that there are two more keys the characters need to find and use to actually break free of the simulation. I just love the idea that to spite Henry's jibe that they keep failing because their emotions get in the way, that actually escape can only be possible with the characters working together.
I have become enchanted with drawing Maura but I probably should practice drawing her more from reference rather than just off the top of my head and dreaming of season 2 & 3
Predictions for future 1899 episodes
I just thought I’d write down my predictions/thoughts (again!) on what my mind has conjured up as possible theories for the future goings on in the show.
I did a similar thing as I was watching S1.
My mind went all over the place with this, so they may have some logical holes in them or they may not be in keeping with the show but just thought I’d share, as a bit of an experiment to see how right or wrong I am if/when the show comes back.
I will probably look back on all these and think how silly I was to think them!
Everyone in Maura’s room on the space ship were part of some coup or uprising (or something similar) and so they were eventually sent to be in suspended animation together.
I think there’s more to Mrs. Wilson than meets the eye. It might be how she’s being played by Rosalie Craig, as in it’s the actor, not the character giving her that particular edge but there’s just something about her that’s a secret.
There’s something ‘negative’ in Maura and Eyk’s relationship. Just how she reacted after she woke up and saw him, I watched it for the first time, and thought it was extreme relief why she backed up as she did, like she couldn’t believe he was alive, when she had not long seen him ‘die’. However, there just seemed to be something else going on that I felt could be read as something negative, that he’s not exactly as we’ve seen him so far. I really hope this isn’t the case, just where my pessimistic, dark mind went.
Same thing as above, there’s a possible negative part of their relationship but instead, maybe Maura is the guilty party. Maybe she’s tyrantesque and Eyk is just a soft, sad meow-meow or something.
Reality is another simulation. So, it’s either the ship was a simulation in a simulation, like Inception or the opposite (kind of), where reality is actually a further simulation, deeper in everyone’s minds. Maybe the reason that Daniel may not be there, is because he’s never gotten that far into Maura’s mind before, the ship was the furthest he managed to get to. @veturdraugur actually has had the same thought as me, here.
The whole show, everything we see, is actually in the mind of Ciaran, a dreamlike state and world that all stems from him. He’s the ‘creator’. Maybe all the characters existed at one point in reality or maybe they are all not real but are now just code in a machine. Also, he’s Irish, which I only thought would be the case because of his name for starters but also Daniel saying to Maura that her name’s Irish, even though she’s not.
Ciaran is a twisted guy, who might have made Daniel (if the theory of Daniel and Elliot being simply code is true), so he could have an accepted relationship with his own sister, without threatening too much of the balance of things (I can’t see incest being the case but…).
Both Ciaran and Maura aren’t real. Maybe the both of them are separate programs, designed by another, connected through a tech experiment of some kind. It would be similar to how the tunnels on the ship were separate but also all connected and how Maura mentioned how the memories on the ship were placed in a way, that was like the wirings and connections in the brain. The experiment could be something along the lines of, “What makes us human?” and it started as a way to demonstrate how an organic mind/brain and a synthetic mind/brain, if you can make both experience the exact same things, feel the same emotions etc. then how different can one be from machine, what is it that makes us, human?
Each pod on the spaceship, represents an element in alchemy, given that the characters we’ve seen have had the symbol for Earth dotted amongst their ship simulation: 🜃.
Similar to the theory above but the characters that we’ve seen, they may go into other simulations which are representative of other alchemical elements such as: Air (🜁), Fire (🜂) and Water (🜄).
Maura and Daniel are genuinely married and they do have have their son, Elliot together but for some reason, which would explain why she wasn’t drawn to them as she has been with Eyk, is that she removed her emotions towards them, for different reasons. It kind of works with the whole humans are weak because of their emotions, that Henry Singleton’s mentioned and the studying of the human brain, human behaviour etc.
Same as above (and kind of connected), Maura and Daniel are married, they do have Elliot together and the reason why she can’t remember or have feelings towards Daniel and Elliot, is because she erased it all from her brain. The reason she did so, is that maybe she’s responsible for Elliot’s death through experiments on him and got ill/died or would alternative, he was going to die anyway but she began experimenting on him, which would have probably sped things up unintentionally. She wanted to get rid of the hurt of her child dying and anyone associated with it aka. a husband. This theory kind of began because of seeing one of Maura’s flashes being a brain and that hasn’t happened yet.
Daniel and Maura simply worked together, in a similar way to what’s been said/shown in the show but that’s it. They’re not married, there’s no Elliot, it’s all a simulation created because Daniel is in love with Maura in reality but she’s married to Eyk.
Mrs. Wilson is the boss lady aka. the captain, the leader of some group of fighters etc. This is from me thinking she’s a little sus and also her positioning on the spaceship being ahead of both Eyk and Maura (and everyone else).
Everyone is a patient at a mental institution, where experiments are carried out in them. They’ve round my signed themselves away in some form. Their room numbers on the ship, are the same as their room numbers in the institution.
I’ve got some other theories that I haven’t written down. I’m probably not so strong in thinking some of these theories now, after a while of them sitting in my drafts and then my queue.
So. I watched 1899 again. I have thoughts. Spoilers!
I think, Daniel is a stowaway. We see him wear the same suit everybody has in the end. But he also says ''I'm not going to leave you again''. Did he leave in the very beginning, seeing his wife getting absolutely consumed by her desire to avoid the pain? There is also an open capsule on the spaceship. I thought it was Maura's, but hers is between Eyk and Krester, and the second one is beside Jerome. I might be wrong, but could Ciaran move Daniel out of spite? Out of the way? We don't know how death actually works there, but I'm assuming that the turning off works only in one cycle of the simulation. But what about the outer body? I don't want to think about Daniel ending up as a brain in a jar or a core of a massive computer. Because the spaceship is just not real. He does say ''I'll always be there''. It could have been an oath to his maddened wife or a consolation oath of a person who might not be alive for long.
if sebastian's not ciaran, then i want ciaran to be the messiest gayest ginger twink Jantje and Bo can find
you're all gonna hate me for this theory but what if Eyk is actually Maura's brother and that's why he's the capitain of the ship
A non-comprehensive, highly spoilery list of questions I have after season 1 of 1899 because I refuse to believe this show won’t go on in some form.
Is the spaceship and 2099 real or a simulation? If it’s real, how is the space voyage connected to the simulation project? What’s the purpose of either of them?
Is Maura just a pawn in Ciaran’s game who was manipulated by her wish to be with her son or is she the mastermind behind it all who made herself forget? Is Ciaran part of her psyche?
Were the simulated traumas of the passengers based on their real life traumas or were they (like Maura’s) used as distractions from what they’ve really been trying to forget in their lives?
Is Daniel real or a rogue program fueled by his love for Elliot and Maura? Is he dead or dying like Elliot? Is he actually alive and healthy but trapped by Ciaran and in need of saving? Or alive and ready to help?
Who was in the already opened pod before Maura woke up? Daniel? Elliot? Ciaran? Ada?? Someone else?
Is Elliot still dying or already dead? What’s the cause of his death? Is he an unknowing part of Ciaran’s psyche? A knowing part?
Did Sebastian and Daniel know about each other? Is Sebastian a mere assistant to Henry or a bigger player in the grand scheme of things?
Is there a special reason for Eyk being the captain of the Kerberos in the simulation? Was he manipulated through loss as well, or was he an active partner in crime in creating the simulation(s)? Is he Ciaran, or rather an unknowing part of his psyche?
Did Henry try to use Maura’s situation for his own gain and accidentally get trapped or was he never trying anything before he was put in the simulation? Did he genuinely think his 8-day loops could do something or was he just punishing his daughter?
How many simulations did Maura and Daniel make together? What was their initial purpose? How much of a role did Daniel play in Maura’s project to keep some version of Elliot alive? What were their lives like before and when everything started to go wrong?
Speaking of what was any of these people’s lives like before they entered the simulation? Who entered willingly and who were forced? Was forgetting their real lives purposeful or a mistake or a devious act from outside?
Does being put down in the simulation affect any of the characters in real life? Will Eyk, Krester, Yuk Je, Lucien, Olek and/or Ángel still be down? And what are the real life consequences of touching the weird geometric fungi-ish stuff for Virginia?
What’s with all the parallels between the characters, like Maura and her mother forgetting their children? What about Daniel and Eyk losing their families? Or Ling Yi, Lucien, Ramiro and possibly Olek killing someone prior to boarding the Kerberos?