#creationism vs evolution

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“Either a story conceived almost 2000 years ago is made up, or every credible scientist in the last 150 years is incompetent.“

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Science tells Us: Humans created cooking 1 million years ago... Glue 300,000 years ago Clothing 170,000 years ago Jewelry 130,000 years ago Musical instruments 43,000 years ago Sewing needles 30,000 Ceramics 20,000 Booze 10,000

But God created the Universe 6-10,000 years ago...

Tell me again when arithmetic was invented?

An existent god could so easily have made itself known by giving us the correct answers in its scripture. All of them got everything wrong.

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“The most devastating thing though that biology did to Christianity was the discovery of biological evolution. Now that we know that Adam and Eve never were real people the central myth of Christianity is destroyed. If there never was an Adam and Eve there never was an original sin. If there never was an original sin there is no need of salvation. If there is no need of salvation there is no need of a Savior. And I submit that puts Jesus, historical or otherwise, into the ranks of the unemployed. I think that evolution is absolutely the death knell of Christianity.“

-- Frank Zindler

This is why they refuse to understand evolution. They know it destroys their mythology.

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This “intelligent designer” gave whales legs, fingers and nostrils.

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On preaching to the unconverted

By: Henry Schreiber

Published: May 13, 2007

As a psychologist who teaches a heavily Darwinian undergraduate Animal Behavior course in east Texas, I am frequently involved in conflict. Up to ninety per cent of the students who sit in my classes are teenaged biblical literalists, so it goes without saying that they believe in Creationism.

I think a university is like a chicken that mistakes a pebble for a grain of corn. Sometimes the pebble passes through the chicken unchanged, but sometimes it grinds against other pebbles in the chicken’s muscular gizzard long enough to be given a new shape. That is what a good university education does. If you find your true place in the chicken, you can be completely and forever changed before you are plopped out. But people do not necessarily lose their faith during their university years. Just as a pebble can pass through a chicken unchanged, you may emerge from the University unscathed by the exposure to scholarly discipline.

Students, even conscientious students, become bored with my lectures. Their attention in class drifts and my precious discourse is distorted, twisted in their ears. But they learn enough to pass. They graduate. They go away. Years go by. Then, like monsters killed too early in horror movie scripts, they come back as alumni. They come through my office door. They think I am not working when I am obviously reading, thinking and writing. They sit down and say something hideously ignorant and utterly wrong. Then they make the dreaded attribution. They tell me they heard it in my lecture, they will never forget it, and they thank me profusely for this poisonous morsel of misunderstanding and, yes, very tasty it was, too.

Thus came to my door a good sweet shining alumna, the daughter of a Baptist minister, an angel of the church, to haunt me ever after. Her preface was that when she first heard me teach evolution, she wanted to go home, get her Bible and sit down with me to save my soul.

“But now,” she said, “I believe in evolution too. That’s what I came to tell you.”

She smiled, eyes searching my face for approval. She was so innocent, yet I knew her awful curse had pierced my heart like an ice-pick. My self-respect seeped from the wound until I became a dry, hollow professorial husk.

My student made a content-level shift in her thinking but not the overarching shift. “Believing in evolution” is an abominable non-sequitur. It reveals that the speaker doesn’t grasp the most fundamental aspect of science. Beliefs have to do with faith, and faith has to do with religious things, unseen but believed. In contrast, science is about constructing models of the natural world without recourse to anything unseen or supernatural. Believing and evolution do not go together in the same sentence. Evolution is not a metaphysical or religious truth in which one professes faith; it is just the representation that best fits and explains what is presently known about the natural world.

But I have the utmost respect for this student. It was I who had failed her by not lifting her above the morass of believing onto the solid strata of believing and thinking, and knowing the difference between the two. It haunts me to fail this way, but it happens all the time.

That’s why I keep my office door closed.

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[With thanks for the recommendation to someone who knows who they are.]

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Or when they talk about the supposed science that supposedly proves their god supposedly exists and made everything. With magic.

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"It is also worth noting that one can obtain a Ph.D. in any branch of science for no other purpose than to make cynical use of scientific language in an effort to rationalize the glaring inadequacies of the Bible. A handful of Christians appear to have done this; some have even obtained their degrees from reputable universities. No doubt, others will follow in their footsteps.

While such people are technically "scientists," they are not behaving like scientists. They simply are not engaged in an honest inquiry into the nature of the universe. And their proclamations about God and the failures of Darwinism do not in the least signify that there is a legitimate scientific controversy about evolution."

-- Sam Harris, The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, and the Future of Reason

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There’s nothing wise or intelligent about a god inventing wisdom teeth.