Apr 20
“Checkmate atheists.”
Debunks entire statement in less than two minutes because science really isn’t that complicated if you look at Google for more than 4 seconds.
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“Checkmate atheists.”
Debunks entire statement in less than two minutes because science really isn’t that complicated if you look at Google for more than 4 seconds.
For no reason in particular, just in case anyone needs it:
44 Reasons Creationists Are Deceptive Part I
44 Reasons Creationists Are Deceptive Part II
44 Reasons Creationists Are Deceptive Part III
44 Reasons Creationists Are Deceptive Part IV
Creationists ruin most things, but I regrettably must ask them to keep cooking on the parasaurolophus
The poll was not "which is more Likely", the poll was "which would be more Surprising". Nobody actually think fairies are real, but a magical woodland creature showing up on your doorstep would be a Pleasant surprise, that challenges what you thought you knew about reality, but ultimately fills your heart with wonder. A wild, several-hundred-pound, semi-aquatic mammal with swords sticking out of its face is gonna have you immediately slam the door shut and call animal control for help.
You're talking about something very different from what I was criticizing.
I don't care how people answered the poll, and I don't care how personally surprised they think they might be. This isn't about that.*
I was specifically criticizing the assertion that so many people made and defended, that a fairy being there would be an objectively less surprising scenario because "for a fairy to be there, it just means fairies are real - but for a walrus to be there, you have to explain how a walrus could get to my 4th floor apartment far from the ocean" (or similar response).
This is BLISTERINGLY stupid, and I saw it said over, and over, and over by many different people.
If you're willing to just believe in magic, then the walrus is more likely. Once you say magic is involved, magic being responsible for the walrus is a possibility (it leaves a lot of questions and I don't like it as an explanation, but whatever). But if you want to say magic AND fairies exist, those are two different things you're suddenly introducing, which by definition makes it less likely. There's a logic test about this, kinda. You see someone at a bus stop, wearing a tutu and ballet slippers. Which is more likely? A) That person is waiting for the bus B) That person is waiting for the bus, to go to ballet practice And the answer, of course, is A. B is introducing a second fact that you don't know, on top of them waiting for the bus. It will always be less likely than A, even if they're holding a sign that says "I AM WAITING FOR THE BUS SPECIFICALLY TO GO TO BALLET PRACTICE".
If you're not going to include magic, then a walrus - a known creature, that for sure exists - is still always going to be more likely than a fairy. With enough money and resources, I could get a walrus to any doorstep on Earth tomorrow. I couldn't get a fairy anywhere, even with unlimited funding and cooperation from everyone on the planet.
The people that went on and on about how many things you have to explain to get a walrus somewhere, but insisted that for a fairy you can say "well, fairies are magic I guess" are using Creationist logic. Look how hard it would be for an eye to evolve! But if it's god, then... y'know, it's god! I know a lot of people on this site are way younger than me and may not realize this, but even just ten years ago there were WAY more creationists on the Internet in general and even here on Tumblr. I had to spend a lot of time convincing people that evolution is real, and that means I'm not going to just ignore seeing that same shitty logic show up again.
Basically, I am exhausted by how few people have no critical thinking skills. It's not about some silly Tumblr meme. It's a reflection of all the anti-intellectual shit in society.
* Okay, to follow up on the asterisk above, while my criticism wasn't about the actual poll answers, I do think people underestimate just how surprised they would be to see a motherfucking mythical creature. The damage it would do to their psyche and sense of stability; the shock of suddenly wondering if anything they know is true, and if they can EVER AGAIN trust that they know what's real.
Are they hallucinating? Are they in a simulation? A coma? Is magic real? If magic is real, are curses real? Demons? Do they have a soul, and can something devour it? This would not, as you say, "fill my heart with wonder". It would be a Very Bad Thing, with horrific implications.
Maybe, eventually, it would turn out to be a good and pleasant thing - but until I'd established that I would be very fucked up about it, and even after that time I'd be waiting for the other shoe to drop; my whole worldview was suddenly overturned once, it could happen again.
Friendly reminder to creationists:
It's possible to accept evolution and be a member of your religion.
Most people who accept evolution are theists, simply by virtue of there being more theists in the world than atheists. And not all atheists accept evolution (most do, but not all).
If you look at the percentage of people in a country who accept evolution and compare it to the country’s atheist population, you’ll find that there aren’t enough atheists to make up the percentage of evolution-accepting people.
26% of Afghanis accept evolution, while less than 0.3% of their population is atheist.
71% of Argentinians support evolution, while only 39% of the population is non-religious.
34% of Armenians accept evolution and only 4% of the population have no religion.
80% of Australians accept evolution and only 38% of the population is non-religious.
63% of Belarusians accept evolution, and only 7.8% of the population have no religion.
44% of people in Bolivia believe "humans and other living things evolved over time" but only 9.3% of the population are non-religious.
66% of Brazilians believe in evolution but only 11% are non-religious.
61% of Canadians believe that humans evolved from less advanced life forms over millions of years but only 34.62% of Canadians have no religion.
69% of Chileans believe "humans and other living things evolved over time" but only 37% of people have no religion
59% of Colombians accept evolution is real, while 11.1% of the population has no religion.
56% of Costa Ricans accept evolution but only 27% have no religion.
83% of people in the Czech Republic believe that humans evolved over time. But only 66% of Czechs don't believe in God.
41% of Dominican Republicans believe "humans and other living things evolved over time" yet only 0.4% are atheists.
50% of people in Ecuador believe "humans and other living things evolved over time" yet only 7.94% are atheists.
46% of people in El Salvador accept evolution while less than 19% are non-religious.
74% of Estonians accept the theory of evolution, while only 58% are non-religious.
55% of people in Guatemala believe "humans and other living things evolved over time"
69% of Hungarians accept the theory of evolution yet only about 7% of the population is atheist.
68.5% of Indians accept evolution but nonreligious people make up only 0.8% of the population.
If you don't get your kids vaccinated against measles, you are stupid as well as a bad parent.
2,000-plus measles cases reported in US in 2025; ongoing outbreaks threaten elimination status
Where vaccination rates declined the most, by county
This is very MAGA creationist. Apparently somebody visiting that fake Noah's Ark attraction in Kentucky was a measles carrier.
Potential measles exposure reported in Kentucky after Ark Encounter visit
No Lord Almighty created the humans out of personal will. Creationism is simply a myth created by the weak and ignorant humans out of a psychological need to have a sense of eternal security.
Abhijit Naskar, We Are All Black: A Treatise on Racism
Ceolacanth's reaction to creationists