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I have a question for whoever is egyxos and tmnt 2012 fans. If in a fight, who do you think would win.
2012 leatherhead
Vs
Egyxos sobek
Annon-Guy: Time for a main lead baddies to take the stage!
I-No Vs. Hazama
Hazama isn’t exactly what I would call a Main Villain, especially given his derivative position as Terumi’s vessel that eventually gained a mind of his own. He actually has a lot in common with the PFDs who were cloned from Saya.
His only real hangup is that he existed bound to Terumi made him almost if not more twisted than Terumi was. By contrast Kazuma Kval, the actual person he was copied from to suit Terumi actually had a conscience, as revealed in Dark War, but Terumi corrupted him.
If he wasn’t so heavily influenced by Terumi, it’s possible he might have existed as a normal human at one point, not unlike Jin and Ragna.
Strangely enough, Naoto Kurogane claims to know Hazama from his world for a completely different and unexplained reason. They also seem to have a better relationship even compared to Ragna. The explanation for it isn’t made perfectly clear, but Central Fiction implied Hazama used the Cauldron as a gate to enter a world beyond the Embryo, so it’s probably not the last we see of him.
His reasoning for all the diabolical things he did is explained by his detachment from being human. He treats everything like an experiment, not unlike Relius. In some ways he is closer to what Susanooh originally was before he became Terumi.
People like to compare Terumi with Happy Chaos, but honestly Hazama is a more closer comparison.
At the same time, he actually isn’t all that different from I-No.
An inhuman vessel object given a soul, much like the Sankishin themselves.
I-No’s history is very similar, however her detachment from being human isn’t her reason for being who she is, it’s the reason she struggles to become more than what she is.
If anything I-No REMEMBERS being human at one point, she had a past, it’s just that everything that defined her was cut off in the Backyard. But all of that led to desperation for her.
By contrast, Hazama is content with not being considered human, as he has no attachment to morality, much like Happy Chaos.
But even if I-No wanted to be human at one point, she didn’t want to sacrifice the part of herself that got cut off to achieve it. Even if she hated to become the very thing she sought.
Assuming these two ever fought, it’s pretty obvious it would go in I-No’s favor. Even without her missing half, I-No is virtually immortal, and her powers can bend the flow of time far more so than anything Hazama could do. Though to be fair, I-No didn’t learn how her powers truly worked until Happy Chaos taught her.
Hazama is still resourceful, even when odds are stacked against him, but he would likely run away before getting involved with I-No for very long, unless it was in his interests to gain power from her, which could be possible but is still rather unlikely.
It also might be possible for I-No to manipulate Hazama for her own personal goals, though a reason for such would likely be unclear.
The Seven vs. Villains (Part 2)
Since you guys liked the first part quite a bit, I figured I'd go ahead and do a Part 2.
Especially since it's October, the month of everything evil!
Though before we start, I'd figured I get this out of the way first.
For this part, we're gonna be doing these match-ups with two versions of The Seven.
The current roster and the OG roster (consisting of Homelander, The Deep, Black Noir I, Queen Maeve, A-Train, Translucent and Stormfront).
At the end of the first part, I left a poll asking whether on not I should stick with the current roster or just the previous roster for the next parts.
It ended up in a tie, so I decided to use both.
And if you're wondering why I'm not using Starlight.....do you really want to see her suffer?
Especially against the psychos I'm about to be putting The Seven up against?
Yeah I didn't think so.
So without further ado, let's get started.
Freddy Krueger:
How do you think this is gonna go?
Okay, let's do what Cris Crosspoints did and give everything The Seven would need to know about how to take down Freddy.
Kicking him out of a dream, not being afraid, etc.
Problem 1#: They're stupid. It's been shown many times that they never really think things all the way through.
Problem 2#: They're mental states are FAR from great, or even alright. The minds of these guys are ridden with stuff like guilt, insecurity, loneliness, hopelessness. And Freddy would be able to realize this right away and use that to his advantage.
And Problem #3: Even with the knowledge of how to beat Freddy, I feel like The Seven would just throw that all away since let's be real, they're just way too overconfident in their powers.
Between the two teams, the current roster of The Seven have the better chance at winning thanks to Sister Sage.
But once again, they have the overconfidence problem.
The Joker:
Now this is an interesting one.
Despite being such an iconic villain, I think The Joker tends to get underestimated a lot.
Largely because of how he's just a regular (in quotations) human.
Not to mention his depictions in major adaptations and how Batman (also a regular human) is able to take him down.
It's to the point where some people just don't think he's all that much of a threat.
But it's shown MANY times that just because he's a regular human, that doesn't mean he isn't dangerous.
Because he very much is.
What makes Joker so dangerous is his mind.
I think this is an aspect that I wouldn't say is forgotten, but I think tends to get downplayed due to his status of being, well, fucking insane.
While yes, Joker may be a crazy, he's not dumb.
Far from it.
He's actually very intelligent and has proven to be a pretty good at being strategic many times, devising all sorts of elaborate schemes.
Which is already a good start since remember: The Seven are morons!
Not to mention he's a master manipulator and has a very deep understanding of human psychology.
Having an exceptional, almost supernatural ability to read people on the spot.
He knows what to say to exploit weaknesses and break down his victims' sense of self.
And I like said earlier, The Seven are FAR from being paragons of mental stability.
So this would be a cake walk for Joker.
But I know many of you are gonna bring up how Joker couldn't take on The Seven in a physical fight.
However, that's not true.
Joker is actually pretty skilled at hand-to-hand combat, which is an aspect that doesn't get highlighted all too often.
He's able to take down bodyguards with nothing but his bare hands.
And has even defeated Alfred and members of The Batfamily, who have far better combat prowess.
That already puts him over The Seven since remember, they haven't had any or sort training in their entire lives and haven't had to fight for SHIT.
Plus he's pretty quick and agile, which would make him pretty tricky to hit.
And I know some of you are gonna bring up how he's just a human, so his durability wouldn't be all too notable.
But remember: Joker is a DC Comics character!
It's been shown that so many times that with characters whose durability is considered normal, are capable of surviving bullshit that should realistically turn them to a bloody stain.
In fact, Joker canonically has a pretty huge pain tolerance.
Which is not helped by the fact that he's kind of a masochistic.
I honestly feel like a fight between The Seven and The Joker would go one of two ways.
1#) They all end up suffering mental breakdowns thanks to his manipulation.
Or 2#) They're left legitimately terrified by the guy due to his lack of humanity and morals and the fact that he actually revels being in pain.
Not to mention he has tons of weapons that could definitely hurt The Seven.
And remember: their most powerful member got hurt by a METAL STRAW.
Razor sharp playing cards, a jester cane sword, more explosives then you can count.
But the two that would definitely do The Seven in are his acid flower and of course, Joker Venom.
The former is exactly what it sounds like: a prop flower that shoots acid.
And there's no way in Hell that any of The Seven can withstand acid.
And the latter is a deadly poison that causes people to laugh uncontrollably until they DIE!
While this fight would be pretty close, I think Joker would take it due to him being able to outwit The Seven (both versions) and play with their minds.
Plus Joker has given trouble to heroes more powerful and skilled than Batman before.
So this isn't gonna be anything new to him or out of his expertise.
Titan:
You know, it's funny.
Like how Joker tends to get underestimated, you have a surprising amount of people you tend to overestimate Homelander.
And when they point out how he's totally undefeatable, it's usually with panels from the original The Boys comic (which is completely different from the show and doesn't really count) and what people in the show say about him.
But that's not helped when you actually look at his feats in the show.
If he's durable enough to survive every man-made weapon on the planet, why is he able to get hurt by something as simple as a metal straw?
If he's faster than the speed of light, then how come people can still see him when moving?
If he's oh so strong, how come he openly admitted that he wasn't strong enough to stop the falling plane?!
And even though the people who've claimed this in the show work closely with Vought, it's been speculated and heavily implied that they're simply lying in order to intimidate The Boys.
And I mean, why wouldn't they just lie?
And the reason I'm bringing this up is because these people genuinely believe that Homelander could actually beat TITAN!
Like, what?!
Remember, he had all the powers of Metro-Man, a Superman expy!
And it should be acknowledged that just about every one of them could wipe the floor with Homelander!
Homelander's only notable feats of strength is throwing a normal human high into the air and being able to leave dents and holes in walls.
Titan is strong enough to send a giant mech suit flying into the air, kick a bus with enough force to send it barreling at high speed, and lift a FUCKING SKYSCRAPER over his head and throw it hundreds of feet.
Homelander has been stopped by a train, has gotten bruised from other super-powered beings, and once again, hurt with a metal straw.
Metro-Man (who Titan has the powers of) was able to survive a death laser made from the harnessed energy of THE SUN!
The only aspect these two would be rivaled in is speed.
Top that off with lasers that could definitely hurt him, and yeah, Titan would absolutely DESTROY Homelander and The Seven (both versions).
They can't over-power him.
They can't blitz him.
They can't hurt him!
The only lose condition Titan has is that he's even dumber and more impulsive than The Seven.
But that's pretty much superfluous since he's just so broken in every other category!
Doctor Doom:
Dude, The Seven would be better off facing his shitty movie counterparts!
(They would still lose to those two as well!)
One of the two smartest men in his universe.
Has created all sorts of high-tech weapons. Ranging from ones strong enough to restrain even the most powerful of super-powered beings, to ones powerful enough to drain the energy from cosmic beings.
Is a master of the mystic arts.
Wears a suit of armor that has allowed him to manipulate energy in sorts of dangerous ways and take hits and trade blows with some of Marvel's heaviest hitters.
Is a master combatant.
And has regularly given just about all of Marvel's heroes (ya know, people who actually do shit) so much trouble.
And the funny thing is, Doom wouldn't even need to take down The Seven himself.
He could just send some Doom-bots to do the job, which are already incredibly strong, durable and filled with weapons that could definitely hurt them.
The current version of The Seven would stand the better chance.
And that's only because they don't have Stormfront, because the moment Doom hears about her, he's gonna make this fight REAL personal.
Since yeah, Doom canonically HATES Nazis.
And I'm not sure whether this would be better or worse than the alternative.
Bill Cipher:
You know, I'm probably being a massive sadist right now with this match-up.
But frankly.....I don't care.
This probably the best example of Hydrogen Bomb vs. Coughing Baby for a match-up I've done so far.
Both versions of The Seven are facing off against an inter-dimensional demon that's able to warp reality and control time!
The only reason he lost was thanks to some clever trickery.
And The Seven are canonically a bunch of DUMBASSES!
They ain't tricking shit!
Even with Sister Sage by their side, that still won't be anywhere near enough to take Bill down!
This would honestly be one of the worst match-ups The Seven have had so far.
Not because Bill would kill them, but because of all the ways he could torture them.
Possess them, drive them to insanity, rearrange their body parts, turn them to stone, take away their powers, bring their worst fears to life.
He has options!
Vlad Plasmius:
You wanna see The Seven get their shit kicked in by an incel with super powers?
You wanna see it happen again?
We all know how Danny Phantom could definitely take down the entire Seven.
You think they'll have any luck against his arch-nemesis?
Vlad is said to be even physically stronger than Danny, who has taken down building-sized ghosts, and was able to send a giant monster ghost flying with an uppercut.
And like Danny, he's tank multiple ghostly hits, blasts and even explosions.
And let's not forget his wide array of ghostly powers.
Invisibility, intangibility, possession, ecto-energy manipulation (which he can use from simple blasts, to shields, to even full-on physical constructs like a Green Lantern), duplication, and teleportation.
Top that off with the fact that Vlad is actually intelligent and cunning, along with having 20 years of experience with his powers (which he actually knows how to use), and yeah he's got this!
No matter which team, they both lose pretty horribly.
You know, I've been dunking on The Seven a lot this whole post.
And I figured to shake things up a bit, I'm gonna have the last match-up be a victory one for them.
And you're not gonna believe who is it.....
The Seven:
Yep!
One of the very FEW villains that The Seven could beat is ironically enough, themselves.
Now at first glance, this version would seem like they would be the victorious one.
Especially since in the comic, several characters are notably more powerful than their TV show counterparts.
Most notably, The Boys themselves.
Plus The Seven here have slightly better showings of their powers.
Like Homelander being able to throw a fighter jet with just one hand and screaming loud enough to make ears pop.
Queen Meave and The Deep being able to fly.
And Stormfront being able to manipulate the weather itself.
But the keyword here is "slightly".
Because like their TV show counterparts, the showings of what they're capable of is pretty limited.
And as a result, the comic version of The Seven don't really seem that much stronger.
It's really funny to look back at the comic (though not really since its fucking terrible) and see how The Seven were handled there and compare them to how they were handled in the show.
Largely because in the comic, despite being the main villains, with the exception of Homelander, they're borderline background characters.
And ironically, they were sort of pushed to the side for the sake for the other Supes who were blatant parodies of notable superheroes, only for them to be brutally killed off right away.
Because remember, The Boys was a power fantasy for Garth Ennis' notorious hatred for superheroes.
Not helping is like their TV show counterparts, the comics Seven lack any sort of actual training and have never really fought for anything.
But what really solidifies the TV Seven's victory is that the comics Seven....are stupid.
I mean yeah, TV show Seven are also stupid, but the comic team are even worse in this regard.
Like at least in the show, you had people regularly hyping them up.
But in the comic, just about every conversation about The Seven is how they could kill them or how they're all just incompetent as fuck.
Not helping is how it's shown been multiple times (especially in the cases of Homelander and A-Train) that they're even more impulsive than the TV team.
And their TV counterparts are actually portrayed as being fairly cunning and manipulative in their own right, including Homelander!
Like bro, the comic Seven make the TV Seven look like actual Nobel Prize winning geniuses by comparison.
The best example of this is with the plane rescue.
Like in the show, that was undoubtedly the team's greatest fumble....and it was largely because of two members: Homelander and Maeve.
In the comic, the entire team actually got involved....and they fucked it up even worse.
So much so that one of them (Mister Marathon, the team's original speedster) got killed in the process!
And for the cherry on top, that botched rescue actually resulted in their world's version of 9/11!
The only win condition the comic team would have is with Black Noir, who (spoiler alert) is a clone of Homelander made to be even stronger than the original.
And he was able to one-shot him!
But even with that......
1#) He was able to get wounded pretty badly by Homelander and eventually finished off by Butcher.
And 2#) Outside of what he did to Homelander, he has virtually no feats. Remember when I said how The Seven are ironically more of background characters despite being the main villains? Yeah out of all of them, Black Noir gets this the worst. He hardly has much of a presence. Which makes the eventual reveal that he was a clone of Homelander and was the one responsible for most of the horrible things he seemed to have done.....pretty terrible. Like seriously, there was no foreshadowing or hints at all to suggest that Noir was a clone whatsoever. Literally the only major thing he done in the entire comic (that wasn't part of that bullshit twist) was contributing to the three-way assault on Starlight......
So yeah, the TV Seven win.
Which while I guess that's nice, it is kinda sad to think how one of the very few villains they could even beat is.....themselves.
Granted, a far, FAR worse version of themselves but still.
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The mad immortal sword-king battles the wolf that is (literally) Death itself!
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This would be an amazing crossover comic or fan movie
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