Hello! I would like to know your opinion on this:
"In regard to your post about certain Daemyra fans hating JL&J and insisting A&V would hate them too, imo it has a lot to do with sexism.
I have seen countless AUs where the Dragon Twins still exist either as Laena's or Rhaenyra's daughters, the Strong boys however are conveniently missing.
It goes back to the internalised mi- sogyny surrouding female sexuality, it's ok for Daemon to have sex with women before Rhaenyra, to father children with women other than Rhaenyra but it's not ok for Rhaenyra to do the same.
The Strong boys are not only proof she was having sex with another man but also that she was 'enjoying sex with another man and taking control of her sexuality. They want her to be "untou- ched", the virginal bride for Prince Dae- mon to deflower and impregnate.
They don't like what the boys (Jace es- pecially) represent, so try to dimiss their importance to both Team Black and the overall storyline"
-Because I honestly don't think it's entirely related to misogyny that the Strong Boys are not included in certain AUs and the twins are, but rather related to the fact that they are very difficult to fit in being Daemon's legitimate children since they would have to change practically everything about them, they wouldn't be the same characters, they would have other names, another physical appearance, possibly another personality, they are characters that in my opinion have no place in any other scenario other than being Rhaenyra's bastard children with Harwin Strong as a result of her failed marriage to Laenor. Rhaenyra and Daemon's firstborn has to be Aegon, it wouldn't make sense for their firstborn to be called Jacaerys or Lucerys. Besides, this couple has such strange fans, they seem to enjoy them more because they are forced to separate and have to resign themselves to being with other people who are not their first choices and in Rhaenyra's case they call it sexual freedom 🤨 Well, it's always the same, they want to give importance to characters that lack it and this comes from a "pro Aegon and Viserys blog" but of course when they are the only ones left. And by the way, she mentions "many AUs" and I would like to know which ones because I only know one where the twins exist and the Strongs don't 😂
hi dear anonymous!!! i missed your questions!!!!..
Responding to your comment , i think i have already said this several times , for me people who make these types of comments are people who do not understand the universe of asoiaf, and everything they want to see from a modern and gender perspective, it is a story in a medieval context... in almost every sense.... And you are totally right it doesn't make any sense that their first children are named that way in the first place because they don't understand that the names of these children were put by corlys to "reaffirm " ( i call it fooling himself) that they are Velaryon, they are so obsessed with these children that they don't understand that these children are a danger to the existence of house targaryen itself, Perhaps these people see them as a sign of "change" since they do not have the physical characteristics of the Targaryens (they project themselves and want a dragon to feel powerful), and that because of them, Westeros would be a kingdom of love, peace and legitimized bastards. They do not understand that mixing their blood with other houses and giving dragons to bastards, leaves the power of the targaryen house in great vulnerability, they do not understand that the targaryen managed to rule with blood and fire despite being the fucking slogan of the house.
IT WAS A CONQUEST!! , it wasn't that they all held hands and decided to let the targaryen rule them , they literally told them bend the knee or we kill you. despite knowing how it ends up legitimizing bastards and mixing with other houses, and we didn't just see it in one situation, we saw it when dragons existed and when they didn't exist, both situations led to war, to minimize the circumstances that led to the dance with the argument that all this originated because rhaenyra "was a woman" seems stupid to me, several bad decisions by Viserys and by Rhaenyra, led to the events of the dance, it was not only the fact of being a woman that was also important but it was not only the only cause. SO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE AUs where the bastards do not exist and the twins do, has logical consistency because these people DO understand the context, the importance of blood and legitimization in the existence and superiority of the house targaryen. another thing is that also this kind of "daemyra fans" have very romanticized or rather idealized Daemon and Rhaenyra as good people .... and let me tell you alleged "daemyra fans" that they were never good people, both are super morally very questionable and super selfish characters.
.... both,not only one ,these people are so obsessed in always victimizing a character (usually rhaenyra just for being a woman,they complain about that and they do the same with her...in short hypocrisy..) which prevents them from seeing and accepting the bad of their presumed favorite characters, they DO NOT UNDERSTAND or do not want to do it that the world is asoiaf is not fair and never will be, the only one that survives is the one who know how to play with all that . So simply for me they are not Daemyra fans... they only like the fetish version they have of them , which tell me I have come across swill that presume to be daemyra and are a disgust of their fetishes... I have even come across fics where Daemon likes to fuck Rhaenyra being pregnant by someone else. .... that for me is a sexual pariphilia... they should go and get that checked... it's not normal... that has nothing to do with "sexual freedom" the fact that rhaenyra had 3 bastard children when there are "methods" to avoid getting pregnant in less than 6 years is not "sexual freedom". because she could have sex without having children, what rhaenyra did is called being stupid and trusting knowing that daddy will always cover for you, because rhaenyra needed an heir .... not three .... and the situations in which Daemon got to get women pregnant (including mysaria that didn't work .... that ohh surprise .... Daemon in question, he did suffer consequences for fathering a bastard .... viserys took care of that very well ) and he fathered the twins when he was single and remarried .... you know it is very funny, because Rhaenyra as well as Daemon was in a forced marriage, both fathered bastards during that marriage... both wanted children (different reasons maybe ,but same situation), but only her children lived to tell .... and besides that they held the title of princes, they were going to inherit lands, titles and they were given a dragon egg in their cradle.... while Daemon was branded as a thief for wanting to do the same and his pregnant lover was expelled from the kingdom (look that I am the last person to support the birth of that bastard that he was going to have with mysaria but I am not blind). In conclusion since I wrote a lot, for me they are people who have the perception of ASOIAF well altered.... and they make up things like there are many AUs where Aegon and Viserys are the first children ,when I have proof ... literal .... I have screenshots where there are thousands of AUs where they are a happy family and the bastards in some occasions are their children and in others not , but Aegon and Viserys are a zero to the left...always...they are more irrelevant than those who clean the dragons shit.... literal...so they have the perception of reality well altered....
