Verrin watched the brief exchange between Holle and the amazons with only passing interest, choosing instead to focus his attention more on the cup of coffee. Part of him wanted to make it last - to savor it. The other part, however, was winning the argument and he was drinking it much faster than any 'savoring' permitted. Still, it warmed his stomach, and pacified his sometimes volatile temper.
It seemed that whatever Holle said caused the woman to bristle, and they brandished weapons and puffed up to show off their tribal marking and badges of honor. Verrin wasn't so impressed. If he only showed his torso to them, they likely would have a completely different opinion of his prowess if tattoos and scars were the measure of a person. At this point in his storied existence, Verrin had more far more markings than bare skin throughout his body... and his mind.
The tribeswomen stepped outside, flocking within earshot of the door, and within eyesight of two Guardians. But the Library gargoyles didn't flinch or waver in their duties - merely checked the readiness of their weapons. These women weren't currently threatening the Library or its Keeper.
Holle then spoke of terrain and technology, intelligence and effectiveness in combat. She closed her arguments with, "Though I am sure the current student body is large enough, adding them to the roster should not be too much for your Overseers. Either they perform their duties well or they should be replaced, right?"
The student body wasn't large enough - not in Verrin's mind - and adding eight new people wasn't even a drop in the bucket to refilling the ranks of Sith lost at Dromund Kaas. But his answer to his apprentice was more direct, "Replaced? With whom?"
He tried to let that sink in for a moment, and drained his cup, and set it aside. He further explained, "There are always disappointments - more than average, if you ask the Sith'ari. But we are not in a position to replace such disappointments so easily anymore. Now, we have to maintain our old speeders, and repair them. We can't just buy a new one because we don't like the color of our old one."
He clasped his hands behind his back and began to pace around, addressing Holle's earlier arguments.
"I'm not saying 'no'," he prepared her, "but I have concerns with instructing people who are devoted to another master, rather than the Sith. I'm not saying they aren't capable warriors - they wouldn't be alive today, their tribes wouldn't exist, if they were anything less than proficient. I've fought them on a few occasions - not this tribe, exactly, but others around the planet - and they almost killed me. They've taken out Sith and Jedi alike over the decades, arguably over the centuries, and their rapport with the Force is well-known. But just because they can feel it, or just because they can even affect it, doesn't mean they are one with us. They've never allied with the Sith before. This is all new territory for them. But if we train them to be Sith, and then the tribe turns against us, we've now trained our enemies.
The galaxy has Force sensitives all over - some gravitate to the Jedi, others to the Sith. Still others ally with neither. Many of the ones who lean to the Sith joined the Empire, while others maintain their own little factions and pockets throughout the galaxy. Why, back when I was a Sith on Nogatan, our 'faction' grew to the point where we challenged and defeated the Vitiate's Empire of Sith. Think it through, Apprentice... should we train these women to be more effective at combat, or should we train them to be one of us? How do you feel about having them as your peers?"
He let that last thought sit with Holle a moment, while his own mind processed her ideas. On one hand, she wasn't wrong - they needed people, bodies, to join the Sith and their cause so they could grow strong again and retake their position in the galaxy. But on the other, these tribespeople hadn't come to the Sith, asking to join. Holle was suggesting taking them in and training them without anything in return. The matter of loyalty was a strong one for Verrin. These women could strike him down and put Holle in his place - and that would be fine - if the Sith ideal remained in place. If they defeated the Sith who had invaded their world, and simply went back to being tribespeople, taking over their home planet, then how did that benefit the Sith? If they ran back home every time there was an attack on their village, then what happened when both the village and the Sith were attacked? Who would these women stand by if the Sith were threatened by a powerful group like the Jedi - would they simply stand by their tribe first, and let the Sith be driven to extinction? The term, 'What's in it for me?' wasn't one to be tossed about lightly, but it seemed to matter in this case. The women had everything to gain, and nothing to lose.
"The Dark Side takes a toll from anyone who uses it... a price. Why should these women avoid paying our toll? At the least, I would suggest they swear some oath to us for this privilege. And if we were to order a strike on their village... what then? Do they serve me, or do they serve themselves? What about you, Apprentice... who would you side with if we discover a tribe of Jedi Zeltron? Your people, or your fellow Sith?"
Verrin also hadn't forgotten the tribespeople and their view of outsiders. "Do the women understand the current power structure of the Sith? How menfolk are not automatically inferior and 'breeding stock' simply because of gender? Do they understand obedience, Apprentice? Or would you have me 'replace' any disobedient hopefuls because they are disappointing?"
Verrin raised an eyebrow and looked at his young apprentice, wondering if she heard her own words coming back to her.
"Make a case, Apprentice. Make me believe in your cause."
Verrin didn't mention the idea that he wanted to kidnap tribeswomen to breed a new line of Sith.