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Magical/Advanced Objects in the Tangled Universe and Their Fates
So, I was randomly thinking about all the magic that was introduced in Tangled the Series, and how much of it was gone by the end. This, of course, isn't true for literally every magical thing we saw. Natural things, like the Forest of No Return still exist by the end, but even the catalytic items of the Sundrop, Moonstone and black rocks are just... not there anymore by the end.
Here's a noncomprehensive list just on idly thinking about it.
Black Rocks
Demanitus Device
Automatons
Demanitus
Idol of Vershaftsbezeigungengien
Demanitus Scroll
Mind Trap
House of Yesterday's Tomorrow
Mother and Father (and their house)
Time Travel Hourglass
Portal to the Forgotten Realm
Sundrop and Moonstone
(Gee, it's almost as if they knew they'd introduced a magical element to the series that wasn't present in the movie and wasn't tenable to carry through to Tangled Ever After, and that the series had to reset everything to status quo by the end in order to make continuital sense.)
something i noticed upon my most recent rewatch of tangled and tts is the overlying theme of "complacency vs ambition." this is present in many aspects of the story, but is perhaps most relevant when discussing zhan tiri and her disciples.
gothel kept rapunzel locked up in a tower for eighteen years, and lied to her about the world in order to keep her from leaving.
sugracha used the trauma rapunzel went through in "queen for a day" to manipulate her into forfeiting her autonomy.
tromus trapped rapunzel in her own mind and created a world free of conflict, inspired by her fear of the future.
what's most interesting to me is how zhan tiri is outlier in this trend. for one thing, rapunzel is not the one being directly manipulated. instead it's cassandra. she also does not attempt to keep cass compliant-- at least, not in the same way.
the disciples are focused on keeping rapunzel content. they discourage her questioning things or making decisions for herself. they want her to stay exactly the same as she already is.
zhan tiri, meanwhile, wants cass to change. she feeds into the feelings of inferiority that she's always had, encourages her ambition, and manipulates her into turning against her friends. but cass still isn't truly in control. she plays into zhan tiri's hands at every opportunity. every choice she thinks is her own is just another part of zhan tiri's plan.
this is not to say cass can't be held accountable. because while yes, she is being manipulated, those decisions were still hers to make. the show makes this very clear. but it was also her decision to do the right thing in the finale, and help rapunzel save corona.
cass and rapunzel's dynamic actually mirrors a couple others in the show-- that being catalina and kiera, and zhan tiri and demanitus. the theme of "complacency vs ambition" is present there, too.
in season three, we see that catalina feels stifled by her sister. kiera made all the decisions, and assumed catalina was fine with it when she wasn't.
then for zhan tiri, her ambition clouded her mind and endangered the people around her. demanitus recognized she has lost her way and had to put a stop to her. interestingly, in their final conversation, we see demanitus reach out to her one last time. just like how rapunzel never stopped reaching out to cassandra, even while trying to stop her.
(on a semi-related note: in "painter's block" we see that sugracha always taps her cane against the ground twice before using her magic to influence rapunzel. this reminded me of the pavlov's dog experiment, where they conditioned a dog to only salivate after ringing a bell, instead of when it heard someone in the kitchen. i don't know if this is what the writers of tts were going for, but i thought it was worth mentioning.)
One thing I realized while rewatching the Tangled: The Series finale is that Varian’s father and Lord Demanitus look awfully similar…
(Quirin looks more soft than him ofc but to be fair I’m talking about, like, a guy who lived a thousand years before Quirin)
Soooo… any chance that Varian is actually Lord Demanitus’ descendant? Eclipse Varian anyone??/ref
i’ve never mentioned demanitus on this blog before, and i would’ve been ever so happy to keep it that way, but…
imagine if he’d programmed an automaton to mimic his thought patterns and displays of emotion, partially living on through it. or imagine if the robot was displayed at some oddities museum, and it picked up rapunzel’s traces of magic and recited demanitus’ recorded messages.
they’ve already faced robots in this show. it could make rapunzel remember varian, and show that she feels guilty for what happened. it would keep demanitus as a figure of old, which helps the setting feel richer and more defined. it takes madame canardist and that racist caricature out of the picture.
and last but not least, it’s not a monkey.
So I was listening to EPIC and this popped into my head
Sorry for the sketchiness lol it was a quick doodle
When your two mentors are too busy arguing to realise you've found half of their life's mission.