on ur whole ed and izy weren't friends thing a: I dont think u should be putting it in the ship tag let ppl ship in peace. b: my personal headcannons could go either way but I wouldn't find it hard to believe that they were once closer than canon shows but iver the years maybe the hierarchy or eds growing disinterest in piracy makes them feel more distant. Ed has a habit of being dramatic and is not always truthful (I.e when he says he only ever killed his dad but has 'maimed people' im 100% sure he's killed by proxy). So when he says he doesn't have friends he could very well, in the moment, believe it while it not actually being true. Also when they enter stedes ship Ed tries to show izzy all the things that intrest him, to me thats friend behavior
a: that's totally fair, probably could've kept it to myself, but i put it in the ship tag bc 1. i hyper organize everything on my blog bc im insane so it was gonna get that tag anyway and 2. i kinda WANTED ppl to see the post bc im like, kinda curious to hear why ppl interpret ed and izzy's relationship the way that they do bc it's so far from how i (and everyone i know irl who watched the show) read these characters. my tone probably came across more aggressive than i meant but also like, anyone who's actually bothered is free to ignore the post or block me. i wasn't going at any individual fans specifically, so it didn't really register as me NOT letting ppl ship in peace?? but maybe that was the wrong call on my part, idk. my b i guess
b: i agree that ed and izzy in canon are like, in their divorce era at this point and probably got along better back when ed was more into being a pirate, but i really have a hard time imagining that they were ever like. besties. totally get that ed is being very dramatic in that scene, but like, that's kind of the point? in a way, by exaggerating his feelings in that moment, he's being more truthful. in a less emotionally-charged moment, ed might call izzy his friend, but in that scene he feels scared and alone, and he feels like none of his "friends" would accept him at that moment, crying in a bathtub all wrapped up in a fancy robe
it is friend behavior on ed's part to try and show izzy things that interest him, but like, izzy is. not into it. granted, it is kinda a stressful time, with like. the spanish and everything. and izzy doesn't know that ed apparently has a plan already. but like, at no point in the show do we see izzy respond well to ed trying to reach out to izzy abt some non-pirate activity. izzy didn't want to track stede down, izzy's annoyed by ed talking abt the clouds, izzy is glaring in the shadows any time ed is laughing or talking or telling stories with the crew of the Revenge. there's the cut scene of izzy putting bows in ed's hair, but i can't imagine izzy was like, super jazzed abt doing that (and anyway the scene is cut and we don't know what actually happened in it, so it's hard to use that as evidence either way).
i totally think they were closer in the past, but not in a friend way. they had each other's backs, they came up with plans, helped each other when they were wounded. but did they like, talk abt anything other than piracy? did they talk abt their pasts? did they talk abt their interests? people can interpret this show however they want, but ed saying he doesn't have any friends makes me think that they didn't, or that if ed ever tried to, it wasn't received well (and i don't think that's entirely izzy's fault, ed's language can sometimes be hard to understand. but the point is that izzy didn't understand it, doesn't understand it, doesn't understand ed. not the way ed wants to be understood)
