#dwd discussion

[indiaalphawhiskey]

Not to beat a dead horse, but thinking about Gemma Chan delicately maneuvering around the idea of DWD being a feminist manifesto by saying there are “feminist strands” has just highlighted the wasted potential of this film to me.

A more astute film maker (and feminist) would have capitalized on the poignancy of the literal representation of forced pregnancy, (intended eventual) forced motherhood, and the lack of bodily autonomy depicted in the characters’ “reality”, especially in the wake of the current political climate.

So much could have been said about the cost of striving for heavily dated ideas of “perfection” that are based on nothing but a sense of inherited entitlement to privilege and ownership over women’s bodies; how the spread of cult-like thought and cult culture is expedited by modern technology and access.

So much could have been done to draw on the creepily parallel mindsets that still somehow exist nearly 100 years apart, and to hold a mirror to a sector of society that continues to push technological progress solely as a means of control, and without demanding of themselves the same speed when it comes to acceptance and progressive thought.

In conclusion, “feminist strands” was generous. How frustrating it must’ve been to be a woman in this film.

[indiaalphawhiskey]

If I were Florence, I would feel insulted. She literally has a starring role in the film, but the headlines present her as an object for sex with Harry

I agree. She’s an accomplished, young, A-list actress, who’s stolen the show as a secondary character in everything that she’s been in. Not only that, now she’s actually the lead. This movie should be all about her and would benefit so much from being marketed as about her. (Not to mention, the movie isn’t even about sex at all, Christ on a cracker!!!!)

The thing that’s really telling to me is that I went back through her Instagram and found the post where DWD was announced (leads, director) and she was so, crazy excited about working with O. I also remember her being super excited and posting about when H was cast as Jack. I don’t follow her social media, so I have no idea what her patterns are like, but the fact that she could be so excited and then not reply to a post from her Director thanking her, where she was tagged, speaks volumes.

I have no doubt she’s still going to hit it out of the park with DWD, but I can only hope she has a bunch of other projects lined up now that’ll give her the sense of artistic fulfillment and respect she deserves to feel.

[indiaalphawhiskey]

The whole promo makes it sound like it's the first film with a sex scene ever. Like, what is she hoping for? I honestly don't know how successful this movie will be financially, I think she'll make a lot of money, unfortunately

They need to get back the money they spent on huge amounts of makeup to cover Harry's tattoos

“They need to get back the money they spent on huge amounts of makeup to cover Harry’s tattoos”

— I’M DYING. 🤣🤣🤣

So, someone rightfully pointed out in the tags on my previous post that there was also headline about how Harry was going to be naked in My Policeman, and fair enough. It’s an unfortunate reality that the brand Harry Styles™️ was built on his sexualization, and we have to admit that its the easiest weapon to dole out when you’re trying to get clicks/likes/ticket sales, etc.

The difference, though, is that with My Policeman it was all of one article (and a cheeky mention in Capitol FM) that’s coming from sources external to the crew and artists working on the film.

With DWD, the heavy focus on the sexual aspect of a movie (that isn’t even as explicit as they’re marketing it) plus the fact that the encouragement of that crass type of marketing is coming from in-house (the Director) is what’s disturbing. There’s so much focus on Harry Sex Sex Sex Magnet Styles that I’ve seen zero mention of the fact that his character is, to put it lightly, not sexy in the least. Even the teaser trailer was so focused on that torrid kiss that if you hadn’t been following anything about DWD, you would have no idea what it was actually about.

It’s a mess, is all I can say, but I agree that it’s likely going to make a lot of money, if only based on how many people want wank fodder. Which, considering how much WB seem to have invested in it in the beginning, coupled with extreme delays from COVID, looks like it’s the Director’s first (and maybe only) priority.

It’s sad because the premise of the movie was insanely interesting, the aesthetics and the cast add so much to it, and a female director who actually knew what she was doing and had displayed professionalism and artistic integrity would have sent this thing through the roof. In the end, I feel bad for the cast and for Harry because if you track they projects he’s signed onto, it’s clear that he wanted to pick things that really allowed him to explore his range and talent (Dunkirk, My Policeman, DWD [on paper], Nosferatu, The Eternals) and it seems like everything he was avoiding is actually what this film is being sold as.

[kaboodo]

Its sorta sad seeing people judge DT17 Gosalyn's personality. We didnt get to see very much of it, so I dont think its fair for people to claim that shes a bad take on Gosalyn 91.

I've seen people complain that she didn't have a tomboy pesonality, and while thats fair, I think that the DT17 Darkwing Duck spinoff (reboot- idk I think it would've been both if it was basing off of DT17's Darkwing) would've expanded her personality aswell as her sporty side. I understand peoples frustrations with her feeling like another webby, which I understand, I think that it wouldnt of mattered if the DWD spinoff had happened. I highly doubt that any of the duck kids would've been reoccuring characters. (Mabey dewey? Who knows)

Also, i just dont see as many similarities between Webby and Gosalyn as I've heard or read people list/complain about.

Webby was the smart weird kid. That just so happened to be really smart when it came to combat and mystical artifacts.

Where as, Gosalyn, from the episodes we got that she was in, was portrayed as less trusting and street smart. I think she would've been very straightforward and brash.

At the end of the dat, everyones allowed to have their opinions. I just thought I'de share mine. Wether you like Gosalyn DT17 or not, I hope you can see what I'm trying to say.

-Kabo