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It would have been interesting during the final battle if destroying those Elder sarcophagi would have done something.

Negatively(health damage, an ability becomes limited, etc.) and positively(desperation leads to more brash actions and more dangerous abilities) affecting the Avatars being deployed. Stunning, frenzying, or outright killing ADVENT units and perhaps the same for some of the alien units. Creating psionic energy hazards due to the sudden death and release of their potent psionic energy.

More actively seeing the damage leading to eventual collapse of the underwater base. Water leaks. Panels beginning to cave in. Pillars collapsing. Etc.

Actually thinking about it, I could see destroying some being a side objective to “balance” the playing field if more experimental and aggressive Avatars were deployed. After the first one is destroyed, the others get a bit of a shield you’ll have to chew through. To make things a little more fair, all take collective health damage when a sarcophagus is destroyed(including the Avatars.)

Also, potential death comments ranging from warnings of what is to come, disbelief of what is happening, more bargaining and making all sorts of offers(mainly to the Commander), and lots of long-winded cursing because they are sour prunes.

#xcom musings #echoed chatter #xcom #xcom 2 #Aliens: Elders #am I thinking about end game for my fic again though I’m still in act 1? /yes/#already taxing themselves having to becoming the psionic network and now getting extra taxed as one after another is killed #now I’m imagining a few panic teleporting out to another sarcophagus if they even planned for that #need to write out a plathoera of ideas I have that can be seen as improvements or not. same some tedious 😂

Think I’ll handle my Floaters/Archons as a mix of three things.

1. Some distant cousin species to the Mutons or one that took a different evolutionary path as I’m handling the Mutons being space fairing already before the Elders

2. A different species all together. Shaping them close to what is described in Chimera Squad in that “dreamscape” they get plugged into.

3. Hybridization of 1 and/or 2 like the human/alien hybrids. Thanks @dreadblades for that idea.

And with 1 and 2, I’d going to have them fair well against the Elders(or saw through their nonsense as I have a mix of ‘peaceful’ contact and straight up hyper hostile invasions for the Elders) before they lost and perhaps they managed to do major damaged that pissed the Elders off so much to explain their continual tortured existence via the Floaters to the Archons.

#xcom #xcom 2 #XCOM worldbuilding #xcom musings #echoed chatter #aliens: floaters #aliens: Archons

Huh. Now I’m curious to what some of the initial concepts for the Alien Hunters DLC. Because there are a lot of elements that really imply it would have gone another way, but the team got rushed.

Stumbled across some of Vigaroe analysis articles again and jive with several of his interpretations and issues concerning the whole thing.

Have some nitpicks/disagreements, such as them bringing up the Hunter’s line about how rare it is for the Elders to offer up a planet. Knowing the Hunter’s creation period, I’ve never interpreted that as the Hunter has been serving the Elders for way over 20+ years. I’ve always assumed that the Chosen(and any more elite alien) knows the history of the Elders’ rule across the cosmos. And also, whatever lies the Elders have told about "empire" and how they operate.

Articles in question:

Viper King

Neonates

#echoed chatter #will add to the main tags later #also time for me to stop gatekeeping this writer #their analysis are pretty neat and give a lotta for for thought #but I’ve got my nitpicks for some interpretations #which some may be able to figure out that tag rant was one of them #huh I think I know how I’m going to rework the Alien Rulers for my fics and make it less grating on my mind

DLZ. Very catchy song. My brain is trying to to pin which characters fit it.

Heck… huh may use this as my persona’s theming for her calling out people. Such a gremlin…

#echoed chatter #funny how I was thinking only fan block nonsense with this and my brain slaps me with my personal stuff #Mar my beloved I need to draw you. and all your AU splinters. *cough* Memento n more *cough*#that opening line is so sarcastic and I love it #‘congratulations on the mess you made of things’#me threatening myself that’ll I’ll write another lyric fic but I’ve been burnt out 😫🫠#me: *looking at drawing and writing with disdain*#also me: *foundly working with polymer clay and jewelry items*#*fondly #the art interest cycle can be really vicious.#having to beat that ‘your disappointing your followers’ part of my brain with a mace #VARIETY IS THE SPICE OF LIFE TO GET THY PASSIONS BACK

I need to have both ADVENT born and non-ADVENT born people have some funky taste buds due to what foods and spices they grew up with(or lack of it) and how it shaped their palettes.

Remembering a story from a guy who pretty much grew up not eating a lot of sweets so nearly all chocolates taste nasty to him. Has to be a dark chocolate and usually a high percentage. And then he never had cinnamon so he literally can't taste the spice or taste it properly. Just gets to have fun with the hydrophobic nature of the spice and says it's weird.

#it’s really interesting how what you eat can shape your palette #this comes to me because I'm cooking heh #echoed chatter #XCOM worldbuilding #im more interested in lore/world implications again #I feel like Sectoids would find this fascinating.confusing.disgusting. and hilarious #oh goodness I am going to have fun with Warren being semi-flabergasted when dealing with certain people and spices #also him being constantly annoyed missing some species that will be hard to acquire or extinct now #he IS going to have Memento and team figure out how to grow miniature cinnamon trees for the bark #also alien palettes are on my mind for the more privileged that aren't forced to eat the genetic soup grool™️#ah a fun punishment can be an privileged getting their food rations downgraded. ‘nicer’ punishment compared to everything else #yeah need to work on that hierarchy system at some point. should be fun

Turning the Avenger and surrounding area into a death trap like Kevin from Home Alone when they have to make an emergency landing due to sabotage, but thankfully landed in a psionic dead zone so it hinders what ADVENT can do/use when they learn the sabotage finally went off and they start mobilizing.

#echoed chatter #xcom musings #Avenger shenanigans #I know why I’ve been having silly thoughts as of late and I’m just slowly collecting them #queued in time #this just makes the Elders want the Commander(s) back even more when they read the reports #actually see Hunter taking it as a challenge to sneak onboard #except all he does is steal a few items and leaves something in the Commander’s room #he’s 100% using the affects of the dead zone to his advantage and wil silence any ADVENT unit that sees him #xcom 2 #xcom

Forgot I own digital copies of the two XCOM books. Need to do another casual read but with some intense note taking.

Forever annoyed the Templars and Warlock got shafted in Escalation.~

#echoed chatter #brain is whispering make an excel sheet to compare and contrast to ingame info. dangerous #if the third ever happens. the Templars better get some love #used to get super annoyed with Warlock. but he’s grown on me as I do my fics and theorizing #need to work on that Geist fic and the Magistar and Warlock fic #need more Templar and psion user love #‘why are you note taking with the digital if you have the physical?’ ->#I can do highlighting and note taking on the go

I’m sorry for the spoilers but I just finished reading the book and I’M HURT. BUT HEY, got some new ideas for rewriting/reworking old chapters and working on new chapters that can weave into my verse. So gonna work on the Reapers being less initially hostile(too a point) but still using the WOTC cutscene between Volk and Central but add in what happens in this book and then the Factions comic that makes Volk more pliable. And also will probably will actually add canon characters to the character page now since I’m gonna be pulling several people from this book.

Also not correcting spelling mistakes. I whipped this up in a few minutes to vent and blabber.

#spoilers #xcom spoilers #xcom 2 spoilers #musings #writings #xcom #xcom 2 #fairly good read #also love all the Clan stuff for the Skirmishers #ah that's gonna be fun to build upon #echoed chatter

It would have been interesting during the final battle if destroying those Elder sarcophagi would have done something.

More actively seeing the damage leading to eventual collapse of the underwater base. Water leaks. Panels beginning to cave in. Pillars collapsing. Etc.

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