Took a while but I just thought of the funniest way Viv could handle the season 2 ending.
Vox is a villain who’s genocidal, able to access and control all aspects of the internet, a master manipulator, violent, and intensely American.
It was all sounding weirdly familiar until epiphany hit me over the head with an iron bat.
You know who also had all these qualities as a villain?
This motherfucker.
I would love the season to end with Vox getting the same treatment. Getting captured and used for his abilities or just as a revenge scheme. Either by Lilith (who could use him to fulfill actual plans to overthrow Heaven) or by Alastor to forcibly help the hotel.
Either way, I think it would be hilarious to have him just stuck in someone’s basement and turned into a passive nuisance. Also since it would be a switch-up from Viv just killing him off which everyone is expecting atp.
Recurring villain? An unwilling, unpaid tech support worker? Possibilities are endless.
Day 27: What Place in Ostania or Westalis Would You Like to See?
Too many.
I mean, really. For the place in Westalis, I would like to see the Capital City of Westalis because it seemed like a modern city. I also would like to see Luwen and Kielberg after they reconstructed it post-war.
Meanwhile, for Ostania, I would like to see any places outside Berlint. Frigis, Shellbury, Munk, Bayan, Eastern Nielsberg... I would like to see all of them.
In short, I would like to see the whole of both countries.
Day 28: Favorite Theory for the End
Well, since I have my own theory about that, which I already wrote in this fanfic, basically I want both Sylvia and the Shopkeeper, as the direct boss of both Agent Twilight and Thorn Princess in both WISE and The Garden respectively, realize that they need to let both of their best personnel to retire and get married for real, as they can see the real love between them. It might take a long time for both of them to realize that, but at least, it's still possible, because both of them also care about their respective best subordinates, and they just want to see the said subordinates to be happy with their fake family.
So, Medic wanted me to spread her hopes on how The Phantom Show DLC is going to end.
...
Prepare to be emotionally devastated.
Basically, Medic hopes that the ending of the DLC is a twist where Phantom is actually trying to be a better person but is betrayed by the Heroes under the assumption that he was up to no good.
And so. Phantom retaliates as the villain they came to expect.
Hey redphlox, hope you're good? Want to ask you: is it kind of worrying that no hero(not even deku) in bnha wants systemic change even though the manga is almost over? I want the villains to be saved(at least live well) but if even deku who's been through discrimination/met hero assassins doesn't want things really changed ('helping hand' not great plan) is the implications of change enough for an ending or is that disappointing? Or is everything ok as long as villains/hero kids are good? ☺️
Hello there! Thanks for the question. I'm recovering from the semester, I hope you're relaxing too :)
Hmm. To understand why Horikoshi is approaching the story the way he is, we first have to understand what message Horikoshi wants to convey. Ultimately, Bnha is a story about redefining what heroism is to a society where heroism is a celebritized profession akin to acting in Hollywood movies etc. The hero ranking system is a marker of this, as is the fact that heroes sponsor products on commercials, have merch, etc. All Might's first appearance consisted of him condemning what heroism has become.
As the story goes on, Horikoshi emphasizes this message by repeating the phrase "my body moved without thinking." Real heroes spring into action to save naturally, meaning that true heroism comes from the heart. It's not something you are taught. True heroism requires selflessness, benevolence, and pure intentions. Deku, Bakugo, and young Keigo were examples of this. In fact, Endeavor freezing everytime one of his children are in danger is also a sign he's not a true hero. He didn't go into the profession because he's altruistic. He only wanted to be the strongest.
Anyway, this message of "heroes save unconditionally" explains why many pro heroes quit after the praise and admiration from the citizens turned into doubt. They were not in the profession for the right reasons because people need saving and protection no matter what they're saying, doing, etc.
Midoriya states at the beginning that this is a story of how he became a great hero. In order to surpass All Might, Midoriya has to go above and beyond. He has to do what no heroes have done, which most likely means understanding and saving villains. The story is clear that society makes it own villains by ostracizing people who are different and setting for complacency. Midoriya's challenge seems to be to act in the opposite manner of the citizens and pro heroes.
Reaching the villains doesn't mean changing their minds and dismissing their pain or convincing them that things aren't that bad. Saving them means saving them from their pain. It means understanding that their feelings and their actions came from a place of hurt that society caused. It means making them believe in heroes again, but not the type of heroes that let them down. This next part is purely my speculation but once the villains feel validated, they'll start to believe in REAL altruistic heroes, which will then make them help take down afo.
But anyway, this story isn't about taking down a system. If this were about taking down the system then the focus would be more on the LOV. It would have started sith Shigaraki. Midoriya and the other students wouldn't be becoming disillusioned with the current system, nor would they be attempting to be compassionate toward villains. Usually taking down a system involved resistance from the oppressor, and it looks like the up and coming heroes (the ua kids) will be the change hero society needs.
I know a lot of people think the villains are the protagonists because of MVA arc, and I used to think the same until after the Vigilante Deku arc. I think the purpose of the MVA arc wasn't to establish the LOV as the eventual victors, but to sympathize them to the readers. Shigaraki and the group were just scary, abhorrent, and violent killers who only wanted to cause chaos. During MVA we discover they are strategic and want to change society so they can find a place to belong.
So yes, in my opinion everything should be okay as long as the hero kids understand their villain counterpart. I imagine the hero kids will go on to be the change the system once they become pros. Uraraka has already planted the seed in the civilains' minds that heroes are people too, so I'm sure the idea that villains are people too will follow.
That's what I think, anyway, following themes of the story. It would have been interesting for the LOV to be the main characters and have them take down society. But this story is about children being the future, and Midoriya, Shouto, and Uraraka will be the change hero society needs. They'll be the greatest heroes because they will have saved the unlikliest of people: the villains themselves.
So I have a theory about how the very end of the game may turn out and if it does turn out this way, I'm throwing hands with Disney.
This theory has mostly to do with the name of the game and the mirror dreams that the MC has.
The game is called Twisted Wonderland. If you consider the ending from Alice in wonderland, going off of memory, the end all turned out just to be one crazy dream that Alice had. Mix this with the existence of the mirror dreams, If Disney pulls the whole "It was all a dream" bs after the Diasomnia chapter I really don't know how I will react.
I doubt Yana actually has the ending planned out that way since I've heard that she's been planning the Diasomnia chapter since the beginning and I highly doubt she would end the series like that but I just found these two facts interesting. Are they foreshadowing or just coincidence?
SNK is about “Resolving of Ymir’s World” when Ch 122 was revealed. It is not about Eldians or Marlyeans
The most intriguing part of this chapter for me is KID EREN.
Below are the two questions I have:
Why exactly is his eyes are shut off like Ymir?
Why is he shown as Kid?
In Ch 122, let me take a look at Ymir’s background where every single character in this chapter is drawn exactly the same as above.
Why do you think so?
Well,
Ch 122: From you, 2000 years ago
“UNDERNEATH THIS WORLD FULL OF PAIN AND SUFFERING, EXISTS ANOTHER WORLD WHICH LIGHT CANNOT REACH...”
It speaks about two worlds here,
“Which is that WORLD WHICH LIGHT CANNOT REACH?” YMIR’S WORLD
This is the reason their eyes have been drawn in this way because it’s a world where even a light cannot be reached. There is not even a light of hope in her world. This is from Ymir’s perspective.
Ch 01: To you, 2000 years from now
“Which is that WORLD FULL OF PAIN AND SUFFERING?” EREN’S WORLD
The depiction of Ymir never changed throughout the Ch 122 except when Eren said, “You are free”.
Next question,
Why is Eren shown as a kid?
I have two theories and I still do not have a concrete explanation as to why?
Theory 1:
Ymir died as a Eldian Human just before she inherited the Powers. Her appearance is same as this in Ch 133.
Eren inherited his Father’s powers when he was a kid very similar to above as fellow Eldian and is Subject of Ymir not human anymore.
(P.S Eren eating his father plays a key role which we are yet to see from Eren’s perspective)
Theory 2:
Ymir’s and Eren’s World are connected. This image of little Eren here suits more and how he talks about he does not want to be caged and hence his appearance as a KID in Ch 133. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Eren is shown here crying when you co-relate Ch 1 and Ch 122. He did not realise he was FREE until he meets ARMIN in EREN’s WORLD in contrast to what he says that he has always been this way in the PATHS thats because all the characters play a key role in shaping Eren’s Vision of which Armin is the first person.
Ymir is born into this world to be a SLAVE. (However her own self in the form of Eren required to make her realise that she is FREE)
Eren is born into this world to be FREE.
Finally the ENDING THEORY (I am not predicting how exactly it is going to fair out. I will only be talking on the context of it which debunks EH stans theory and Lelouch ending that are not gonna happen) and I am not really concerned how all the characters will fill their roles, since all are playing in the hands of Eren. No matter what happens, it’s Eren who is going to WIN this.
Timeloop is the very basis of the SNK story since the concept of PATHS (Time is infinite/eternal with a cyclic universe) has been introduced and we need to relate to everything from Ch 121 as the base when Eren gets access to the PATHS that’s when the story of SNK BEGINS and the other time Eren gets access to the PATHS is when he eats his father so I am keenly waiting for that moment.
When Eren talks about destroying the WORLD, it’s Ymir's world he speaks of that made Eren’s world full of Pain and Suffering.
Eren is definitely gathering all of them at one single place as he is planning to strip off all the powers that includes TITAN POWERS, MILITARY BASEMENT OF MARLYEANS. That’s his main intention.
Some Random Things:
And the ATTACK TITAN we see now is the ULTIMATE/FINAL FORM that resembles the organism.
Coming back to Ch1:
13th is the symbol of totality, completion and attainment which means it signifies the New Beginning and Destruction of the Old World.
When I revisited the chapter, I realised it that its not Mikasa who is saying it because the dialogues are not pointed to her. Eren is waking up from the dream state to waking state. So “See you later. Eren.” is likely someone else saying it may be Ymir.
I have seen all kinds of crazy theories for SNK that’s how flexible Ishayama has written and he is free to choose out of it to be honest, that’s really brilliant writing.
Theory about Eren is winning no matter what happens..
Since the release of chapter 133, I have seen people say that no matter what happens, Eren will be a winner, whether he dies or is the only survivor of rumbling.
Let me summarize in case some of you are unaware of this supposed theory about the end of the manga:
Case 1: Eren dies, finally killed by his friends and comrades in the Alliance. The fandom supposes then that they will be acclaimed as heroes for having killed the one who put humanity in danger as Historia was acclaimed for having killed his father Rod Rheiss, transformed into a titan and who threatened to come and eat a whole city.
Case 2: Eren wins against the Alliance and remains perhaps the only survivor of the rumbling.
Already I wanted to specify that the case of Historia is totally different from that of the Alliance. Historia had made a pact with Erwin at the time so that she would end up acclaimed by the crowd for having saved them by killing her own father transformed into a titan. She herself is not even aware that she really did it, she is still certain that she did her job as an actress to perfection. Her plan was perfect, how to make the inhabitants of the walls that Historia had to sit on the throne swallow the pill when they had just learned that the last king was an impostor? Honestly, nice strategy from Historia, she is not a brainless blonde, too bad she is totally non-existent in the new chapters.
Then the Alliance, already what a difficulty to reach Eren in the first place, all the characters won't survive it, for sure, moreover, even if they manage to kill Eren, who guarantees them that the rest of humanity will acclaim them as heroes? Absolutely no one.
Armin’s thought saying that it's time for Eren to stop because no one will dare touch Paradise and the Eldians anymore out of fear, is totally bullshit, and honestly Armin saying that, feels more like the words of a desperate guy, than someone who sincerely believes in what he says.
The difference between Historia and them at that time was that Historia was dealing with the people inside the walls, not the rest of humanity. The people inside didn't assuming that Historia was responsible for the titans, and the disasters related to it.
The rest of humanity does. They hold the Eldians from Paradis responsible for the disasters caused and the titans.
The fact that Eren is an Eldian from Paradis and that he actually started the Rumbling makes the thing even worse and worse.
Because in their minds, they finally were right. Paradis and its inhabitants truly are demons. It’s time for them to change things, they can’t continue to live in the fear of what Eldians from Paradis could ever do again.
Honestly, what do you prefer? Eliminate what you fear the most if you have the chance to or continue living with the fear that it will start all again?
Because killing Eren will not end the 9 titans powers and these powers must be controlled. So here we go again. Who is going to take this burden?
This story must end with 4 options:
Eren succeeded the rumbling and perhaps remains the only survivor -or not-. GENOCIDE 1.
Eren dies and they have to take the burden of the 9 titans powers and surely the anger of the rest of the humanity. The story continues again and again.
All SoY must die and Paradis must be destroyed, then titans powers will vanish forever. GENOCIDE 2.
Eren survives the rumbling and his comrades and then takes back the 9 titans powers then disappear with them forever by magic. *abracadabra*
