#factor farming

[vegan-dream365]

Los Angeles Pig Save. These 6 month old babies were transported without food or water for 3 days. They were forced to suffocate and stand in their feces and urine. Many of them were beaten, bleeding, and unresponsive. They were sentenced to death for the crime of being born a pig. Please go vegan and help end this cycle of death.

[forumgamer]

(3) while this is a different discussion entirely, please be aware that there is a huuuuge difference between sentience and sapience. this is generally the foundation of the argument for "does death constitute as abuse for non-sapient beings?". if they cannot comprehend it, is it suffering? not saying your views are objectively incorrect, just that neither side's are. so at least while alive, it is true those animals often get treated better than the handlers treat themselves!

I am aware of the difference, hence why I (unlike some radical vegans) would never equate animal killing to the killing of humans. It can be argued how far the difference goes, of course, but yes, that’s philosophical.

HOWEVER, I fail to see how this translates automatically to “while those animals are alive, they often get treated better than the handlers treat themselves”. From what I’ve seen of farmers and their living conditions, they generally allow themselves, for example, far more freedom of movement and far more living space, greater food variety, etc. etc.