#figwit

[countrynerddancer]

For me, the Figwit of Heated Rivalry (a background character with no lines who I'm obsessed with a little bit) is Red Ruffled Bikini Woman in Tampa.

She's talking to people in the bar scene, behind Ilya, then during the kids' race/shark attack she's dangling her feet in the water totally unbothered.

Im guessing she's a hot MILF WAG. And I want her.

[fernytickle]

"That pixie little guy"

[anderperrylover]

Figwit and Stick

I swear every fandom I get attached to has this one character. Yeah sure, here's Frodo and here's Charlie - BUT who the hell is that? but whatever happens we love these guys - Always there - always getting to know everything (Figwit has a lot to deal with in the Return of the Kind and Stick is there when they first find out about DPS)

Love these two for absolutely stealing the show

[gnarptado]

the hobbit and it’s exactly the same but lindir starts every conversation with “hey chat”

[not-glorfindel-stop-asking]

Op, I'm not saying this to be mean but if you didn't want the Lindircident and all of that brought up, maybe you should have checked before making a Lindir rp account-😬😅

[TW: references to SA, s*xual abuse, physical abuse, fandom issues etc.]

Oh, so I should have "checked" every single post under the Lindir tag before daring to make a roleplay account?

Should I have scoured the depths of the internet, sifted through every reference, every joke, every cursed discussion that has ever been made?

Is that what you're suggesting? Because that's not how this works.

That’s not how any of this works.

I made a roleplay account for a minor character from a well-known franchise because I love said character and also because some friends joked that I am the "Lindir" of a group.

That is all I did.

I did not invite these references, I did not encourage them, and I certainly do not condone them. I have repeatedly stated that I am not interested, I have repeatedly set boundaries, and yet people insist on sending these messages, making these comments, and dragging me into something I have no part in.

How exactly is that my fault, genuinely?

Where is my agency in that?

Let me make one thing absolutely clear: I have never read the material that this is apparently based on.

I have no context for it, I have no investment in it, and frankly, I do not care. And yet, despite making my stance clear, I am still being subjected to unwanted references, to inappropriate jokes, and to outright disturbing messages.

And before anyone tries to twist my words—yes, I respect authors and creators. I respect the effort, the work, the passion that goes into writing (I am myself a writer).

But respecting an author does not mean I am obligated to engage with their work, especially when doing so could expose me to content that I find deeply distressing or uncomfortable. Respect does not mean blind participation. Respect does not mean forcing myself to endure something that I have every right to avoid.

I do not owe it to anyone to read something that I already suspect will make me uncomfortable. I do not owe my time, my mental well-being, or my emotional energy just to "do my research" on something that I have already made explicitly clear I want nothing to do with. It is absurd to suggest that I should subject myself to potential discomfort or even distress just to avoid being harassed over something I never engaged with in the first place.

And while we're here, let me make something crystal clear: Lindir may not be my original character, but that does not mean people are free to say whatever they please in my space. That does not mean I am obligated to sit here, grit my teeth, and tolerate references to NSFW content, to sexual violence, to things that make me deeply uncomfortable—especially as a survivor of SA myself.

The fact that I even have to spell this out is exhausting. It is beyond inappropriate, it is beyond disrespectful, and it needs to stop.

I cannot believe that even here, on a roleplay account, I have to be firm. I have to set and reset boundaries that should be obvious, and yet people still insist on testing them, pushing them, pretending they don’t exist. I should not have to raise my voice, I should not have to justify my discomfort, and I sure as hell should not have to fight for the bare minimum of human decency.

The entitlement is staggering. The audacity to step into my space and try to dictate what I should be okay with, what I should be forced to engage with, is infuriating.

No, I do not want these references. No, I will not "just deal with it" because I made a Lindir account. No, I will not entertain some ridiculous idea that making a fandom blog means forfeiting my right to personal boundaries.

I don’t care how long these jokes have been around. I don’t care how ingrained they are in certain circles.

I am telling you I don’t want them here. And that should be enough.

It is not difficult to respect people’s comfort levels. It is not difficult to hear "this makes me uncomfortable" and just stop. The fact that I even have to explain this, let alone demand it, is frustrating beyond belief.

So let me say it one last time for the people in the back: I am not responsible for what other people have made of this character.

I am not responsible for the history of a joke I was never part of.

And I am certainly not responsible for the fact that some of you cannot grasp the simple concept of "no."

If your argument is that I should have "checked" before making my account, then let me turn it around on you: perhaps you should check before sending messages that cross boundaries, that disregard personal comfort, and that contribute to a culture where people feel entitled to force others into discussions they never consented to?

Because that is exactly what this is.

You expect me to take responsibility for something I had no part in, to comb through years of fandom history just to make sure I don’t accidentally trigger your weird obsession with an in-joke I never signed up for.

But where is your responsibility in all of this? Where is your effort to check if what you’re saying is appropriate, welcome, or even remotely considerate? Or does that not matter because, in your mind, my existence here makes me fair game?

Because let’s be real—that’s what this boils down to. You’re not upset that I didn’t "check."

You’re upset that I won’t play along. You’re upset that I have the audacity to not care about whatever cursed discourse or running gag this is built on. You’re upset that I’m refusing to roll over and let you drag me into something I never wanted to be part of.

And instead of respecting that, instead of acknowledging that I have every right to set boundaries in my own space, you’d rather frame it as my fault for not doing your work for you.

I don’t owe anyone my time, my energy, or my tolerance for nonsense that makes me uncomfortable. If you’re so concerned about people "checking" things, start by checking yourself. Start by asking why you think it’s acceptable to push unwanted conversations onto someone who has repeatedly made it clear they want no part of them.

Start by recognizing that my refusal to entertain this nonsense isn’t the problem—you are.

No, I do not want to read about one of my favorite characters being repeatedly sexually abused/used. No, I do not want to engage with content that depicts that. No, I do not want to be sent references to it, jokes about it, or anything remotely related to it. No, I do not care how long this has been a thing in whatever corner of the fandom it originated from. No, I do not care how many people find it funny or "just fandom culture." No, I do not care if it’s "tradition" for some of you to bring it up whenever Lindir is mentioned.

I do not want it in my space.

Period.

I should not have to clarify this. I should not have to repeatedly state that I do not want to see, hear, or be associated with discussions of one of my favorite characters being subjected to sexual violence in MY space. And I especially should not have to sit here and defend myself when I say, unequivocally, that this makes me deeply uncomfortable—both as a person and as a SA survivor .

The fact that this even needs to be spelled out is disgusting.

I do not owe anyone my discomfort. I do not owe anyone my tolerance for things I have made explicitly clear I do not want to engage with.

And I certainly do not owe anyone an apology for existing in a fandom space without wanting to be dragged into something that I had no knowledge of and no interest in.

[to-fall-or-not-to-fall]

this is very suspiciously close to melpomaen and I don’t know how to feel about that

[eri-pl]

So, Figwit

That elf from LoTR movies, whose name is an acronym of "Frodo is great, who is that?". I just realized that we can give him a proper name.

Long post with linguistics speculation under cut.

So, fig… OK, there's no official Sindarin word for a fig :((( just a Quenya neologism "relyávë". With "rel" being probably the main root I need here. Whatever. I'm gonna make him a Noldo, even a Feanorian if I had to. Let's go with a Quenya name then… Those are hard. :(

"wit" is "tunto" with a *, so probably it's another sus word. Whatever.

Iirc, Quenya likes to go noun-descriptor, so Relyátunto… Yes, sounds like a legit name! How to Sindarize it now? eh, let's go with the classic Exilic "just take the main syllabes and roll with it" Reltun. Still doesn't sound good… OK, let's do the commonly used "just turn some of the vowels to o" and make it Relton. Fine. Or Reldon (making things voiced is also a thing) but this sounds too much like Sheldon.

Ok, 2nd attempt. Let's assume Sindarin would use just "rel" for the fig, because this seems like something they would do, using the easy half of the Quenya word. And go with "sael" which is "wisdom", but with how Tolkien uses this word, it's not far from "wit". Or "glaudh" which is a neologism for "joke / jest". hmm, I like the later more.

OK, so "rel" + "glaudh" + "-dir" or "-on", because gender suffixes or maybe "-or" which is the same as English "-er" ie "the doer of the thing".

The merging tutorial… Adjective/descriptor first, unless ugly, so let's keep the order for now. "rel" + "glaudh" + "or" → rel" + "laudh" + "or" → "rel" + "lodh" + "or" probably → Rellodhor? Ok...

Let's try the other way around. "glaudh" + "rel" + "or" → "glod" + "rel" + "or" → Glodrelor. Sounds more stereotypically Elvish.

Aaaaargh… So I now went to Wikipedia page for him and someone already did the name? And used a different word for "fig" taht is allegedly canon??? I don't like the whole name, they made him into a muse, but ok let's go with "fig"="melpo" I like it, figs are sweet. Hmmm, elfdics says it's gooseberry, but this word feels much more like fig than like a gooseberry, the canon can go get eaten by spiders, my lámatyáve says it's a fig, so it's a fig. And the Sindarin for it is "meleb" or maybe "melep" because I said so ("before-sweet" is a valid etymology for a fig, deal with it)

Let's do the name now. And yes, I am keeping the "wit" `≅ "jest" (= "glaudh"). Blame Brandon Sanderson for me having this association. He's called a fig-jester, this is my HC now. Doing them in the normal order results in really ugly-sounding words, so:

"glaudh" +"meleb" + "or" → "glaudh" +"veleb" + "or" [that's a funny change] → "glodh" +"veleb" + "or" → Glodhvelebor, this doesn't sound pronouncable for an English speaker, more like a Witcher character XD. I'm gonna bend the rules and treat the "v" like an "f". Glodhevelebor. Yes, it's long. He's young, he can have a long name.

But who would call his son "fig jester", you ask me. Hmm.

Remember how in LotR there's that Elf in ME who for no clear reason introduces himself as the son of Finrod. So, Gildor (who I assume originally had a much longer name) and his brother, and probably a sister or two, but of course, the sisters are never mentioned, were born in aman after Finrod got reembodied and married, and were already adults by the time when Glorfindel was sent to ME. they sneaked into the boat, because they were curious too see ME. the Valar of course knew, but come on, those are Finrod's kids, they're so cute— also Námo thought they'll be less depressed if they don't have to witness the whole Númenor trainwreck and go help fight Sauron instead.

Why would Finrod find "fig jester" a good name? Vibes. Finrod is the Elvish esp Telerin) mix of happy-sad, but also has tones of the… I'd call this wholesomely creepy (see: the werewolf incident). And This matchest the vibe. If you want to know why figs are weird, I wrote a short fic about it.

And yes, this makes this name more like mothername than like fathername, but I doubr Finrod would care.

…or maybe the kid was just very happy and liked figs.

Why is his name in Sindarin then? Figwit translated it, of course, to not look suspicious. :D (Also, he dyes his gold hair to a darker color)

What was the original? Hmmm... "melpo" + "tunto" (wit), but it's Quenya so the order is arbitraty + we can mutate the words a bit. Let's just make it Tuntamelpo (sees a fig), and roll with it. The joking part has been a subtext. I'm sure there's a story behind it. At least there's nothing about hair in this name.

So this is it, that's the story of Figwit and his name[s].

Thank you for reading, here's a potato poll

Best name for Figwit:

Rellodhor

Glodrelor

Glodh(e)velebor

Tuntamelpo (or some Sindarization of it)

Figwit, but make it etymologically derived from some proper Elvish

Other

Voting ended onJan 20, 2025

[iwanderbecauseimlost]

I was watching an old interview of Bret McKenzie's, and.. realised just how weird the Figwit/Lindir thing is.

Don't get me wrong, I love him, he's our panic attack elf, but seriously, we started a fucking cult because this extra was kinda hot.

I love this fandom so much.