Feminists school Jill Filipovic on consent, predatory behavior
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Feminists school Jill Filipovic on consent, predatory behavior
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You might remember that the widespread controversy surrounding Lena Dunham and the section of her book where she describes “a story about being a weird 7-year-old” (and what others call child molestation) began with a tweet in which she wrote off the charges as “a right-wing news story.” Sure, it was in an article about Dunham in National Review that Kevin D. Williamson quoted the most disturbing passages from Dunham’s book verbatim — passages that the mainstream media overlooked completely.
As Twitchy demonstrated, it wasn’t only right-wingers but a wide range of people who found the revelations disturbing. “I need @lenadunham to understand that it’s not just straight white conservative men that are disgusted by these latest revelations,” wrote an African-American attorney. “How are you a feminist if you are normalizing the fact that you molested your little sister?” asked another young woman.
So, guess who has arrived to blame right-wingers for ignoring the words of Dunham’s younger sister Grace? It’s Cosmopolitan senior political writer and Feministe blogger Jill Filipovic, who even takes feminists to task.
Not surprised that the far-right Lena Dunham haters ignore & erase Grace's own words. I am surprised to see that erasure from feminists.
— Jill Filipovic (@JillFilipovic) November 3, 2014
Time for school.
@jillfilipovic it's a well held belief in sexual abuse advocacy that the victim cannot give consent or say what was done was okay.
— Franklin Rabon (@fjrabon) November 3, 2014
@JillFilipovic not saying what Lena did was or wasn't sexual abuse, but most victims of sibling sexual abuse deny harm.
— Franklin Rabon (@fjrabon) November 3, 2014
@fjrabon Sure. And that's a fair argument. But to pretend that she hasn't said anything by totally ignoring her?
— Jill Filipovic (@JillFilipovic) November 3, 2014
Who’s ignoring her? Dunham tweeted that “I wish my sister wasn’t laughing so hard” — so it’s all good, right?
@JillFilipovic Aw, u poor misguided dolt. No one in their right mind sides w/ Lena or you. Feminist/ Right wingers nothing to do with it.
— Jimni27 (@jimni27) November 3, 2014
.@JillFilipovic It sucks she's expected to bail her sister out. Regardless what Grace says/feels, Lena's actions raise major red flags
— SDFeminist (@EmilyFrancesSD) November 3, 2014
@JillFilipovic Big fan of yours. Very disappointed in your tweets on this story. Victims defend their abusers all the time.
— Alicia Marie (@AliMarMas) November 3, 2014
@JillFilipovic Some of the things Lena writes about are actually pretty disturbing http://t.co/KHwtQcPqXk
— Alicia Marie (@AliMarMas) November 3, 2014
.@JillFilipovic I don't think Lena = Woody Allen but I don't understand why we are defending this? Cause she's a spokesperson for @PPact ??
— SDFeminist (@EmilyFrancesSD) November 3, 2014
@EmilyFrancesSD @JillFilipovic @PPact Exactly. If a far-right conservative man wrote these same things…
— Alicia Marie (@AliMarMas) November 3, 2014
@AliMarMas @EmilyFrancesSD If a far-right conservative man touched his baby brother's penis when he was 7, I really would not care.
— Jill Filipovic (@JillFilipovic) November 3, 2014
@JillFilipovic @EmilyFrancesSD Please click the link and read the rest. There is MUCH more to the story than that. Lots of Red Flags.
— Alicia Marie (@AliMarMas) November 3, 2014
Again, check Dunham’s original tweets, where she talks about having “looked at another little kid’s vagina.” The book itself recounts far more than “looking.”
@JillFilipovic @AliMarMas But it wasn't just a curious touch… I understand kids are curious and sexual but there was more to it than that
— SDFeminist (@EmilyFrancesSD) November 3, 2014
Time to normalize some behaviors.
@AliMarMas @EmilyFrancesSD Outing her sister to their parents was wrong. It doesn't make her a predator.
— Jill Filipovic (@JillFilipovic) November 3, 2014
@AliMarMas @EmilyFrancesSD Lots of kids who share beds or rooms masturbate in close quarters when the other is asleep. That's not predatory.
— Jill Filipovic (@JillFilipovic) November 3, 2014
@JillFilipovic @EmilyFrancesSD "Basically anything a sexual predator might do to woo a small child, I was trying" – Lena Dunham
— Alicia Marie (@AliMarMas) November 3, 2014
@AliMarMas @EmilyFrancesSD Right… which she meant in a tongue-in-cheek humorous way, which is the way she wrote the entire book.
— Jill Filipovic (@JillFilipovic) November 3, 2014
@EmilyFrancesSD @AliMarMas Yes, she may be guilty of making an inappropriate joke. But categorizing it as abuse or molestation is bananas.
— Jill Filipovic (@JillFilipovic) November 3, 2014
@JillFilipovic @AliMarMas I understand Lena was trying to make a joke about molesting her sister, but given her behavior, I'm not laughing
— SDFeminist (@EmilyFrancesSD) November 3, 2014
Let it be noted for the record that Filipovic and Dunham, and not the “far-right,” think molestation jokes are funny and tongue-in-cheek.
@EmilyFrancesSD @JillFilipovic I agree. I also see evidence of emotional abuse, if not also sexual. Its at least worth talking about.
— Alicia Marie (@AliMarMas) November 3, 2014
@JillFilipovic @AliMarMas @EmilyFrancesSD Just stop. You don't need to condemn her, but attempting to rationalize this isn't helping…
— Nathan Whittaker (@n8inSLC) November 3, 2014
@JillFilipovic Her words should be taken into account. So should the ones of abuse advocates. This isn't about right-wing nutjobs at all.
— Andrea Shang (@andreaTshang) November 3, 2014
.@JillFilipovic Using Grace as a scapegoat for Lena Dunham's predatory actions is not only cowardly, but the classic tactic of an abuser
— Yukio Strachan (@boldandworthy) November 3, 2014
.@JillFilipovic If you really supported Grace you would validated her violation; not the tactics used to clear the person who violated her.
— Yukio Strachan (@boldandworthy) November 3, 2014
.@JillFilipovic Using Grace's name as a shield is shameful for a feminist that's supposed to empower women, not sacrifice them for profit
— Yukio Strachan (@boldandworthy) November 3, 2014
@JillFilipovic Abuse is still abuse. Chris brown thinks he lost his virginity at 8 to a 14 year old girl. It continued until she was 12.
— Anisa Sharif (@Mombassa1995) November 3, 2014
@JillFilipovic But its okay cuz she's a feminist right? This is why I'm a womanist. White women&their b.s. Get it the fuck together.
— Anisa Sharif (@Mombassa1995) November 3, 2014
@JillFilipovic I'm more concerned with how Lena essentially brushed off the behavior as normal, when it's not. Grace's words do count for
— Elena Cleaves (@elenacleaves) November 3, 2014
@JillFilipovic something, but they do not justify Lena's actions. It may not have been sexual, but was clearly more than innocent curiosity.
— Elena Cleaves (@elenacleaves) November 3, 2014
@JillFilipovic Did Grace consent to or understand what was being done to her by her sister? Good luck trying to defend that.
— Farbrook (@dutchindian) November 3, 2014
Well, that didn’t produce the expected response. Back to the safer waters of bashing right-wingers who dared quote directly from Dunham’s book.
Betting the guy who first accused Dunham of molestation & wants to hang abortion docs is THRILLED feminists are targeting Planned Parenthood
— Jill Filipovic (@JillFilipovic) November 3, 2014
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