#flekille

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One of my favorite things about both Laicion and Flekille is imagining Kabru and Yaad's reaction to them. Their entire jobs revolve around making sure nothing goes wrong and help everyone in the castle manage the kingdom,so their reactions to the king and court mage dating criminals would be hilarious! I can already see Kabru screaming out the window as he sees Laios hanging out with Lycion like that Breaking Bad meme!

Fleki battling her fierce adhd to brush and braid Marcille's hair is kinda cute... But well. She still hasn't succeeded per se...

Gdbgd they'd both be menaces yeah. Flekille I tend to imagine more in a modern AU, or even a canary Marcille AU, but it's interesting to imagine post-canon in a timeline where... Either since she's Mithrun's servant and he has to come report to Laios about monster movement semiregylarly, or see Kabru, Marcille and Fleki have more chances to hit it up- OR laicion happened first so by default of their respective dogman dating each other they get to interact more often too. Over the years me and a buddy have had a lot of different possible post-canon laicion setups, like, Lycion being sent as an ambassador (because he's someone the king knows and everyone knows said king likes beastmen, are some reasons), Lycion being transferred some way or other to be a guard at Merini's castle as a diplomatic show of good will, or at his own request because that way he can be closer to Fleki since Mithrun is staying there. So this could be a good way to get both laicion and fleki going yeah, Fleki tagging with Mithrun, and Lycion doing simple castle job stuff~ Overall: castle shenanigans. Once they date I think Fleki starts showing up at the castle ro see her a little unpredictable and in an unpredictable state lol. Usually there're guards to escort her to Marcille, and she's learned Lycion's usual schedule anyways and they both run to each other, but sometimes Lycion deserts post. Oops

This ask though actually reminded me of an old doujin/comic I wanted to make that was both laicion and marchil lol, where laicion got married and it sorta like. Kicked marchil into going "okay it's been years of me just sleeping at your store whenever I can and you cooking me breakfast and us teasing each other while never making any actual move maybe we can like. Actually date? Hold hands? Okay yeah?" and examining their relationship and taking a leap lol. The point though is, look at these, my genius is timeless

Marcille being in disbelief at his choice still fits with flekille because 1) Marcille is not the monarch and 2) I love my girlie's flaws and hypocrisy <3 I had also noted something about Lycion and Marcille having a talk about outliving their partner.... Their dynamic is really interesting to me too tbh they compell me. And it's weird too because, Marcille will live much longer than both Fleki AND Lycion, and where Fleki is Lycion is close by, so like, either he'll have died or he'll be there mourning her too. And as hard as it is to imagining losing Laios it's just as hard for him to imagine losing Fleki. But also, Fleki treating her own health like she does, he is bracing himself for her to go first yes. This sort of doubling of mourning on an already hard convo and situation. They both have this almost bitter "you won't be the only one mourning them." But also this melancholic camaraderie forming between the two where it's like hey we'll still meet up for tea we'll see each other at bingo yeah yeah yeah 👉👉 But Lycion's philosophy is to make the best of what you can have, so hey, shrug, we've got plenty of time. Marcille's just glad Fleki's got more years left than Laios. Idk. Thoughts!!!

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Which Dungeon Meshi ship would you get into a poly situation with?

Farcille

Chilaios

Labru

Flekille

Jackari

KabuMisu

Chilshi

Laithrium

Kikimari

Namarcille

Voting ended onDec 16, 2024

Personally, I would go with the one that allows me to be a sugar baby to at least one glucose guardian, so I can get this tuition bill paid and can move on with my academic career, lol.

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Mind if I ramble at you for a bit.

So I read both of your Marcille/canary rarepairs and the Fleki one inspired me to share a one-shot idea I had a while ago (that I am never going to write). Anyways the idea behind this is that it happens in an AU, where Canaries recruited (arrested) Marcille at some point in the timeline (maybe during her brief stint as Dugeon Lord).

Anyways in the one-shot Marcille would have a mental breakdown, when she realizes that her sentence is longer then most of her friends´ remaining lifespan and she will likely not meet them in person again (not to mention the irony in the fact that her effort to prolong the time she has with her friends she lost the chance to the time they have, Marcille will be avare of) and Fleki ends up comforting her.

I also consider a second part, where Marcille "repays the favor" when Fleki has a bad trip.

I didn´t ship Marcille/Fleki before your post, so the original idea was gen, but it could work as shipping fic as well.

I also consider some other one-shots in this AU (which I decided to call Jailbird AU), like Marcille managing to peacfully resolve a conflict between the Canaries and some people living in a dungeon (maybe goblins since they didn´t appear in the manga/anime), or her interacting with Mithrun (maybe she could make him a soup after they end up stuck in a dungeon together and run out of food), since as you pointed out those two have a nice potential dynamic (platonic or romantic).

Also Falin and rest of the party would definitivelly mount a Marcille rescue operation, which would make for a nice inversion their situation at the begining of the canon.

Makes me wonder how well would Marcille get along with the other members of the unit and what their interactions would be like.

The way the canaries are is that there are two prisoners for one warden right, but Marcille could be assigned as a temporary third charge… 🤔 Especially since the canaries are understaffed, probably under Mithrun and not Pattadol then because Mithrun is much more high ranked and experienced than Pattadol. As a past dungeon lord she’d be considered higher threat I imagine, but she’s capable so like Mithrun after his dungeon stint they’d really want to recruit her. This mithrille fanartist makes some canary!Marcille AU art like this one that I find super fun to think about… Yeah they’re right Mithrun would treat newbie recruit Marcille like that (carelessly and ruthlessly) pfft, since canaries assigned to Mithrun used to die a lot regularly before things stabilized with the current group I like to think of wether or not they expected Marcille to die soon and if they’re fine with that. Not like Mithrun would hesitate to strike her down if she stepped out of line— but she seems to get along with Pattadol so that could give them some hope, so either way, stamp of approval.

Wether Marcille would get along with each canaries or not imo:

Pattadol: Yes. Pattadol’s soft on Marcille, she thinks she’s sooo sensible and smart and thinks her dunlord thing was just an unfortunate turn of fate that she’s already forgiven for. They chat a lot, each other’s favorite coworker. If it wasn’t for Mithrun being the top leader I feel like Marcille could sometimes get carried away and take over with leadership of the group tbh gdvgd, and Pattadol may or may not notice she’d doing it and let her. Marcille gradually climbs up the canary ranks au? Would be fun

Fleki: I def think she’d be the one both poking fun at Marcille, about how she’s new to everything in the canaries and how dramatic she can act, and the one to lighten up the mood and be friendly because she’s open and casual like that and the one to tell her to relax. Their relationship could be a little tense especially with how judgy and critical Marcille can be, and how singeing and uncaring Fleki can be. Marcille’s "you didn’t do this for friendship because it’s the right thing to do?! How heartless!". But especially with time and familiarity they’d grow closer and Mariclle would be sad Fleki keeps people at an emotional distance and Fleki doesn’t let her in more- "Fleki may seem rude and crass and lowbrow and a rotten egg and- but she’s a good egg if you take the time to crack her up a bit… She’s my rotten egg… I prommy…" Also her overbearing mom friend tendencies would kick in and she’d want to get Fleki to be healthier. Lycion-Marcille "spend less time high and be with us we love you" alliance pt 2. Ty for coming to my ted talk. Imagine Fleki climbling Marcille like she did w Otta in that one beach page. Dramatic duo <3 Anyways so yes they’ll often banter and chat and have disagreements and sometimes bad synergy but ultimately they trust each other’s judgement and work well together—

Lycion: ehhhhhhh. Lycion’s easy to get along with but equally distant, and more judgy than he appears, and I don’t think Marcille would try to get closer, if not just in curiosity to figure him out. Their dynamic would fall flat a lot imo. But I do think he’d also poke fun at her idealistic gullible nature kinda like with Pattadol, would find it fun to string her along with tall tales and push her around in these small jokey ways, especially if she acts holier-than-thou even at this point in her life (bc I do think he’d tend to have more patience and empathy for a fellow inmate). Don’t ship it don’t ship it don’t ship it Fumi Marcille falling for a mysterious werewolf help Marcille you cannot "you should love yourself and your body ✨✨" him out of this

Cithis: No, but Cithis might like to mess with her. I think Cithis would find her too loud though. Too dramatic too talkative too bumbly too annoying— Chilchuck does always call Marcille clumsy so there’s that. Cithis hates rich people and Marcille like Pattadol does give that vibe, and unlike Pattadol Marcille’s not her superior so I think she’d show more cold disinterest than mean playfulness bc there’s little power dynamic to play with and dunk on there. Pattadol playing favoritism with Marcille would def fan some flames though. Cithis would find out Marcille’s not so bad and untolerable over time but there’ll always be some cold rivalry vibes crackling I feel, maybe Cithis takes pity on her and takes her under her wing somewhat at one point. Eh. I think Marcille would get the vibe to steer clear of her esp with Pattadol’s warnings about her, think of her kinda like how she treated Toshiro or Namari after she left, but also……. À la Chilchuck the harder someone tries to be closed off and mysterious the harder she wants to befriend them and learn everything about them.

Otta: Decently yes! The inmate she gets along best after/alongside Fleki. She’s sociable and generally friendly though the less flashy type, she’s the most mature and tends to be quieter than the chaos duo Fleki & Lycion. Otta would also find Marcille easily overbearing I think but she’d tell it how it is and try to help her integrate. And then brag about how good of a person she is for it lowkey~ Jk haha or is she. They’d both talk seriously and joke together. Ultimately the Fleki-Lycion-Otta-Marcille quartet is a fun one to sit with at a table.

Mithrun: Both terrifying and unapproachable and the person she feels like she can talk to plainly with the most imo even if he doesn’t always respond much. She appreciates him being smart but thinks he’s reckless. His words and judgements are harsh but often something she has to grapple with and accept— Pattadol’s very kind on her (sometimes overwhelmingly so) and sort of a rookie that follows orders so Marcille has trouble talking strategy or for real for real™️ with her, and Otta’s approachable and levelheaded but well- Not necessarily the most moral or that knows what she’s speaking about. Fleki’s easy to talk to plainly with but isn’t often constructive, Lycion’d be great actually but they don’t talk like that. Mithrun? Academic and experienced and blunt and there’s no pretenses ever. Maybe Cithis would want to drop some of her Mithrun-caring duties onto her but I doubt it tbh. On ship travels she might get overwhelmed and seek some quiet in his room tbh, and he says he doesn’t care either way… she could read books in there or talk onesidedly. Idk idk idk, them……..

Marcille starting out trusting no one and vowing to keep to herself and go unnoticed for the time she has to serve, but being surrounded by so many mysterious cool people that aren’t as bad as she wwass bracing herself for…… And wanting to know everyone’s tragic backstories. Mithrun’s is pretty much common knowledge and she learns it quickly through gossip, maybe from Pattadol, either once she starts taking an interest in her coworkers or a bit before and it’s what piques her interest because before then she found him so senselessly rude & she tends to assume people are black and white at first… He might even overshare himself like he did with Kabru and she’s on the edge of her seat all the while gdbdg. Pattadol has nothing to hide or so she says so she tells Marcille all she wants to know about herself. Marcille eventually learns about Lycion I think but Fleki she has to fight tooth and nail to get anything except one liners casually dropped randomly here and there and what do you mean you have a brother?? Cithis will never let her know anything so gossip or such is her only way but tbh Marcille doesn’t dare.

OKAYYYY that was way longer than I thought but hopefully it’s some fun food for thought lol. I still think I’ve thought about Otta the least but I’ve started paying her more attention a while ago esp when I realized she’s pretty much the Chilchuck equivalent of the group. -Squints and suddenly gets a vision- Chilchuck’s a mix of Otta and Fleki………… Me liking flekille so much suddenly makes even more sense to me hm

Any and all canary Marcille AU is very fun, here I was thinking halfway between ‘she becomes a canary in a canon divergent ending where the demon isn’t defeated and Laios isn’t king’ (which would def make the Mithrun-Marcille dynamic even more interesting) and her having become a canary pre-canon someway sometime somehow. I also like AUs where Marcille went to jail post-canon in general, I have some old laimar and marchil wips with that since the manga wasn’t over then and I thought she might spend some time in prison but have an early leave because of Laios’ power and influence and good behavior hehe. Here’s one fun other canary Marcille I just stumbled upon~!

"Not to mention the irony in the fact that through her effort to prolong the time she has with her friends she lost the chance to the time they have" beautiful mwah… Jailbird AU is a banger name

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How do you think Fleki would flirt with Marcile?

Pranks tbh. Teasing. And crass jokes. And touching casually a lot and overstepping boundaries and doing "jkjk... unless..." jokey flirting. Doing ~platonic little games~ like sharing pocky sticks, Fleki's always been a very casual unbothered person with stuff like sharing water bottles and joking so even if it does always make Marcille overthink every little thing and "did she mean it that way??" She brushes it off even when Fleki gets more and more suggestive and intimate with her touches and jokes... Maybe she's even taken a liking to calling Marcille "like a nagging wife" because of all the worrying and chiding she does over her...

Until one day Fleki just unceremoniously blurts out if Marcille wants to date or tries kissing her and initiate a casual unlabeled intimate relationship (wether or not she just does it that way bc she's scared of asking for more or scared of commitment or thinks she's unlovable and too hard to live with so Marcille would end up leaving her anyways. Probably a little bit of all the above so in the end she just doesn't, it's overwhelming so much that it bypasses her mind fully and she avoids thinking about any of that and tries for the physical relationship instead, simple and easy, then Marcille after or during asks to talk about it- and she's like "teehee okayy if you want it soooo bad let's date...") and it's not the end of the bumps in the road of their romance but yay they like each other 💞 feels euphoric to both of them in the moment

Heh you know what I think Fleki-Marcille-Falin would be fun as a trio too. Two "don't worry about it"ers she cares a lot about and the stressing girlie herself holding their leashes keeping them from jumping in bushes or breaking their leg in a skateboard trick or something. I think Fleki would find Falin boring at first so she doesn't like her but then she notices it's that she's chill with a capital C and suddenly? Hello Falinnn my gal how u doing today pal, cool? Cooool. The laicion flekille + Falin group is so real to meeee.

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Okay okay new flekille angle... Fleki joking about being a "dark elf" and Marcille being uncomfortable about it... Fleki saying it and teasing with it BECAUSE it makes Marcille unsure and uncomfortable.

No because okay okay rundown : 'dark elf' is a catch-all term for elves who show unsavory behavior or commit wrong actions, wether violence, theft, scamming or lying... It being a shorthand for criminals in general is a safe assumption to make, especially since they're classically demonized already.

"Okay but Fleki? Run me through the situation what does it have to do with flekille." Short sociology lesson, because of urgent needs being unable to be met through honest means & with the system favoring others instead, people from poorer more neglected social classes tend to fall into crime & bad crowds more easily. Having less ressources means the 'solutions' you do have are more extreme, wether it be for regulating your mental health or stabilizing your income or living situation. Here's a study link if interested.

Why I think Fleki may have been lower class, before becoming a prisoner? Okay stay with me here, elves are very hierarchal and xenophobic, even while being colonizers. Referring to the area guide blurbs, the northern central continent (NCC) is managed with more restrictions but also more valued in general than the southern central continent (SCC), which also has a widespread elven population. It's said life is "safe and easy" in the NCC, so alongside all the noble elves we have info for come from the NCC, we can see a dynamic form where NCC continent elves are from a higher safer social class than SCC elves.

Another hint of this is the characters' names. If you compare their name origins, a pattern starts appearing where... Well @room-surprise did the work and has more knowledge than me so, the way they put it: "It seems like every elf that has a clearly Germanic or Slavic name is either a criminal or a lower-class person and everyone who is higher class seems to have names that are Latin, Greek, or West/South Asian."

And this seems like a lot of large vague groups options that don't mean much, but this tidbit of info becomes more telling when knowing which races are more associated with what languages and cultures. For a full look into it I recommend this essay, but to get to the point here concisely: 'Fleki' is old norse. 'Otta' and 'Helki' are other elves with old norse names, but for what it's worth Otta is from the NCC, and who knows about Helki's origins. They're the only elves with old norse names at all, but three's a crowd. Who else do we know are scandinavian coded? That's right, Laios and his home region. Tallmen.

Prisoner/non-noble elves tend to have old norse names while none of the noble ones do. And wouldn't that be interesting if tied with tallmen being nordic, wouldn't it be a result of the cultural mixing happening in the less rich regions and the lower social classes, since noble elves are especially xenophobic and uppity about social classes?

Ironically, our protagonist Laios has a greek name, something associated with elves in Dungeon Meshi, but just like Anoutolid and Nussa (two of Laios' father's dogs) could have been picked as names because Laios' father likes names from myths, with the dogs this is canon but in case of Laios it's probably more of a meta joke. ANYWAYS! Go in the essay for more info, all I'm saying is, tallmen = nordic, elves having nordic names = possible cultural mixing, on the continent that canonically has more immigration and less restrictions but is also less safe and 'easy' to live in.

Elves concentrating all their efforts and wealth into the 1% is too real and it checks out. It's also hinted at and mentioned many times through canon and extra info (Misyl's Complete Adventurer's Bible blurb for one) that the canaries overpolice and charge criminals too heavily because they lack manpower, so they want people arrested and want them arrested for longer to have more canaries. Fleki was arrested because of possession and sale of ancient magic artifacts, and only got into ancient magic for the money. Look I'm just saying, it lines up that Fleki would turn to crime because her material conditions weren't great! And as a criminal, she's automatically fit to either having been treated as a dark elf or joke and taunt about it. Especially since the lore info extra on dark elves is set somewhere where tallmen approached unfriendly elves, while this could be a tallman unused to elves outside of rumors thus approaching them with a reckless idealized view, the casualness of it makes me think this is the sort of contact that was likely to happen in an area with a lot of elves and a lot of tallmen living nearby each other, ie the SCC.

Mentioning the Mithrun-Hareus parallels AGAIN but Mithrun and the canaries directly contrast Daltian Clan, it' holds up and makes sense a result especially of Mithrun being hareus' exact lookalike. It's fantasy vs reality of Marcille idealizing Daltian Clan and elven military through General Hareus and novels growing up, then realizing that the real elven military is miserable and very much not glamorous and general Mithrun is dehydrated, rude and after her life. So this plotline about idolizing vs demonizing elves as a race, stances that are very split within the dunmeshi cast, is very Marcille-centric within canon's story. She herself goes from associating with them a lot and being prideful about it & elven customs, to condemning their superiority complex and narrow-mindedness and being on the run from the elven military, before becoming an advisor for a short-lived tallman court, which is seen as dishonorable for elves, as Marcille the half-elf. There's a bit of an arc here, regardless of how much change she actually went through or if it was always just performance on her part that she wasn't really attached to.

So obviously this is all to say that Marcille having a romance with a very underprivileged elf, a "dark elf", would be not only compelling but relevant. FLEKILLE SUPREMACY!!!!!

Half-elf woman who drank the koolaid a bit growing up and idolized elves and tried her best to fit the image of one x woman who knows personally the shortcomings of that same idolized society and embodies that a bit, who breaks that elegant image by being crass and unapologetic and a criminal prisoner, who would have no problem breaking Marcille's fantasies about it, a full elf who still grew up disadvantaged and demonized. Marcille has been emulating elves all her life, perhaps in the hopes of being accepted more or feeling a bigger sense of cultural belonging, but Fleki is there, showing her hey, it isn't that great anyways, hey it doesn't matter squat if you're an elf or not people will always find excuses to mistreat you anyways. It's Fleki taunting and saying come be dark elves with me and Marcille coming to understand and replying no, we're both just elves.

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For those Fleki x Marcile modern AU ideas you have: how do you think Marcile and Lycion finally deciding to make the "Your going to rehab and that is final!' ultimatum went?

Okay okay so in my mind, in my flekille modern au timeline, there are a couple months of just getting to know each other and flirting, then a couple of months of dating. The time Fleki would reluctantly accept to try rehab wouldn't be the first time the topic comes up. I thiiink Marcille even just in the first couple of months of being friends would be worried occasionally, but ultimately attributed it to not being used to recreational drug use in general- until she realizes that oh, no, this isn't just 'normal ~people who take drugs~ things' this is a drug dependence- and I think that realization comes in a creeping gradual sense that Fleki gets high a lot, but that only starts to fully feel real around when they start dating and Marcille goes over to Fleki's more, and reaches out to her more often instead of being the one being reached to whenever then hung out. The easy to gloss over worried inquiries pre-dating became talks, and the talks became household meetings. Fleki is always frustrated about them, various degrees of anger, but Marcille gradually steels herself and gets more convincing arguments, even while as they grow closer some become more pointed as running jokes become running blame...

But see that's the thing, more time goes on and so they become more and more important to each other, closer, a bigger part of the other's life, so it also gets progressively harder for Fleki to just dismiss her thoughts and feelings. And then the true nail in the coffin is when Lycion joins one of those talks, on the side of rehab.

Lycion's more the type to stick to sides, and I don't think he necessarily liked Marcille at first. He's a little possessive and wishes Fleki would just apend her time with him instead, but she's also often somewhat uptight and overbearing. But both caring for fleki makes them inevitably see each other, and gradually Marcille starts asking him as his bestie and roommate for updates on her, asking how she's doing these days and if something happened, and so they start talking more about Fleki's state and how often she takes drugs and how bad it gets. Where before he just shrugged everything off the way Fleki does, now he started considering things more seriously, that things could change, that this may not be sustainable for anybody.

Lycion progressively starts agreeing with Marcille, even if he still thinks she’s a bit intense with it. But it gets tiring to always put your best friend in the recovery position when she falls asleep high "just in case". Lycion’s the type to cherish someone quietly just sticking by them and never asking for anything in return, just taking the love and attention he gets and not ask for more, so in the same manner i think he’s never really sais anything beyond "I wanna spend more time with you awake :/" before, I don't think he'd question her judgement and if it's worth her health or her time. But Marcille's loud and unapologetic, and frankly she's voicing worries he's had for a while, voicing thoughts and wants he's been having for a while. We love you and it's hard to see you in this state, to see you spend all your money on drugs, to see you so high you can't do anything but lay down and sleep so often, to hear you say the world we're in isn't worth living in compared to the "real world" you see when high. We love you and we want to spend more time with you. We love you and we want you to be happy, without the need of being under influence for it.

Fleki resists it like usual, but she's more quiet than usual too, and they just list point after point and they sound genuine and like they're trying to reach her when they list them. They ask her if she can't find any meaning in living with this world with them, ask her to just try rehab, etc. And yk, it reaches her. Something in her gives away, she's tired physically and mentally and her instinct is to go take a puff to forget all about having a mind for a minute. She'd never wanted to give drugs up, doesn't think the experience of them should be something she should give up in the least, it's worh it and it's good, but... They've convinced her to try taking less, and it is hard to get herself to take less, so she'll give rehab a go, for their sake. She does see merit in their words, even if she thinks it should all be her own choice to make. Part of her impulsively eants to angrily tell them that they can just leave her if they want to and it's so hard to see her be herself, but she always takes a second longer and realizes that she really doesn't want that, that she wants to spend always more time with them, too.

In my og flekille post I say Fleki is grumpy but doesn't stay angry at them for long upon them getting her into rehab, and instead of meaning they force or threaten her into going I meant it more in the way that they convinced her to go bit she wasn't happy about it. She accepts but spitefully, more or less with a "Fine, let's get it over woth and shut you up!!" or even a "Alright whatever, and i'll show you it doesn't work and then I get out of there, deal!". But that resolve and frustration with them chips away with time shortly and she's back to being her lighthearted gremlin self whenever she sees them, although more tired too at first. Turns out Fleki doesn't have much resolve in holding grudgesat people she loves.

Alternatively, I also like thinking about a timeline where it's an ultimatum she gives for starting dating Fleki. That she couldn't watch the person she loves put themselves in this state day after day forever, for her to see them wither away that way over time. So when Fleki pops the question, do you wanna date? Hopeful and nervous but dropped casually with her usual mischievous tone as if it was just any usual line to say, Marcille sort of just freezes... She's been trying and continues to try to not get too close, too attached too in love. So she's direct and says no and said what i mentioned, Fleki is hurt but it gets her thinking over the next month. They have a colder phase after that where they don't talk much, and Marcille accepts her choice and her discomfort and frustration with her now, but Fleki starts reaching out more and more again. And she doesn't manage to make concrete steps towards being clean, but when Marcille asks Fleki admits she's been trying to take less and put her better foor forward for Marcille, because she doesn't want to sacrifice their relationship for drugs. And i think maybe, Marcille compromises on her side too then and starts dating Fleki even if her worries aren't resolved- but Fleki is more mindful and aware of her problem now, and Marcille hopes that's a good sign, and not just something she'll walk back on next month.