New year Pushups
I just told my soldier to do 26 pushups as soon as he can when the new years starts.
All the good Jock's following me should do the same and report here once they have.
Happy new years.

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New year Pushups
I just told my soldier to do 26 pushups as soon as he can when the new years starts.
All the good Jock's following me should do the same and report here once they have.
Happy new years.
I love making my girl work out till she pukes. Keeping her physically exhausted makes her more compliant and helps her to get to my goal weight for her. Plus it’s fun to use her when she’s completely exhausted.
A day at the pool
862 words | Xerxes & Nor (timeline)
Content | Pet whump, mild temperature whump, forced exercise
Notes | Happy heatwave to those who celebrate (most of the northern hemisphere it feels like). Stay hydrated and don't do excessive exercise. If you have the choice :D
Fun point in their (captive) relationship! Fairly settled and "comfortable", but distinctly before Xerxes gets There.
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The bungalow Xerxes had rented while they were staying in this town came with a swimming pool, which was a blessing, because the heat was stifling.
A blessing for them, that was. Pet watched as they paddled ungracefully along the length of the pool; at least he was allowed to sit in the shade under their parasol, on the ground next to their sun lounger. Even here, he felt the sweat drip down his back, but he was going to take what he got.
It was a large pool, and he wasn’t surprised when they climbed out at the far end, never the sportiest. The wandered back towards their lounger, in no hurry to get out of the sun now that cool water droplets were running down their body. They were wearing a black-and-white striped swimsuit, like the first Barbie. Pet idly wondered whether it was a deliberate reference, but given even he made the connection, it probably was.
They sat down on the lounger and, without a word, placed a cool hand onto the back of his neck. Pet thankfully leant into the touch. They’d lathered him with sunscreen earlier, so he was already spoiled for touch today, but the cool was extra welcome. They’d given him a bottle of water, but it had long since gone warm.
The sun sparkled blindingly on the pool.
It was a foolish thing to ask, really.
»Master, could I. Just take a quick dip?«
Maybe Not Now
During Pavel’s daily torment of him, Emir sees something in him that he hadn’t seen before.
c.w. military whump, sadistic whumper, forced exercise as punishment, insults, degrading language, captivity, alluding to death as an alternative to torture
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“That’s all for now, soldaty. Back to your dorms and make it neat,” General Levkin called.
With a raise of his palm, collective relief could be heard above the fading grunts. Men rose from the field and dusted their palms on their trousers, snatching up their rifles. Twenty of them clicked sharply as they swung over various shoulders. Some grabbed a drink of water they had been meaning to get for hours as clouds swept over the barren training grounds.
The drills of the day were over.
As the soldiers filed after one another, murmuring too fast and foreign to be kept up with, Emir followed behind with a dry throat. His arms ached. He could hardly remember making that many mistakes in his basic training or what were supposedly called mistakes by Stanislav Levkin’s eye. He always seemed to catch him doing something wrong. Inaccurate aim. Sloppy position. Poor posture.
But he had taken the admonitions, the hits and laps, nodded obediently, straightened his back or concentrated harder on his aim. He didn’t feel like fighting the corrections in front of fifty others and with the amount of sleep hardly managed each night, he didn’t doubt some were his fault. That, and for other reasons. Emir winced as a now clear head focussed on the burning in his bicep.
The place Pavel had rubbed the salt earlier that week.
Pausing to hold a flex between his strict presses as he looked himself in the mirror he couldn’t help the smile that broke out. He loved how much he’d changed over the years for his Owner, from the physical everyone was-muscles, tattoo and hair cut-to the mental one only he felt inside-dedication, discipline and loyalty. He’d truly become a new personal and he loved every moment of it.
I'm wondering whether a plot point in a story I once read was realistic:
A character claims to have been trained in torture techniques that not only leave no marks (which I think you've called "clean torture"), but also don't require "tools" - no weapons, no devices, no technology, no environmental control (e.g. over lighting or temperature), and so on. If I recall correctly, he says this to threaten someone who is restrained in an otherwise completely bare room, and there's no suggestion of sexual assault being one of the techniques
Is this a thing? Would one person actually be able to torture another if it was just the two of them alone in a room, and not have it leave any kind of physical evidence?
In short: yes, that’s possible. But the devil, as always is in the detail.
You see from the way this is framed it seems as if the story is implying the character is highly skilled, dangerous and required specialist training. And that is in keeping with how torturers talk and behave. But it isn’t really in keeping with reality.
Because what he’s talking about is probably a ‘clean’ (ie non-scarring) beating, which essentially amounts to repeated open handed slaps on fleshy areas of the body. It’s very painful. It is still dangerous and it can kill (via kidney failure). But it isn’t… smart or complicated or hard to think up. It doesn’t require training or specialist knowledge.
It’s probably worth mentioning here that clean torture does sometimes leave temporary marks. But they’re always the sorts of marks that might be explained away by something else.
The swelling standing stress positions cause in the legs goes down quickly. But even if an independent witness sees this swelling… it can be caused by a whole range of diseases and health conditions. Institutions can and have turned around and said possible evidence of torture was down to underlying health conditions or other factors.
This is part of why torture trials usually have a lot of survivors giving evidence. It’s about establishing a consistent pattern over dozens or hundreds of victims rather then tearing apart the evidence of one person.
Clean beatings can leave the skin swollen, inflamed and sometimes visibly reddened. But a wide range of skin conditions can look similar. Some people would get similar looking marks from being restrained on a hard bed in a hospital. I get similar marks from sitting her on my sofa with my laptop on my knees typing asks. I also get them from kneeling on the floor when I use my sewing machine.
There are a couple of other clean tortures that could fit in this scenario. The British National Style favours standing stress positions without restraints, usually using a wall and enforcing them by beating people who refuse to comply. Forced exercise is another relatively common torture that fits this description.
And again, these can potentially leave some evidence. It’s just not clear evidence and it’s not obvious evidence. An exhausted, pained prisoner does not mean clear evidence of torture.
With more torturers sleep deprivation could also fit this scenario. Something like relay interrogation, where the torturers swap out to rest but continue questioning/berating the prisoner and keeping them awake for days at a time.
Generally I don’t think there’s anything wrong with using this scenario in a story. But I’d advise anyone considering it to be careful how they frame this incident. It would be very easy for the narrative to accidentally back up the torturer’s assertion that they’re skilled/trained or imply that these ‘techniques’ are intelligent, unusual things.
The scene itself isn’t ‘wrong’. It’s just the sort of scenario that can relies on the reader’s background knowledge to fill in the blanks.
And unfortunately that’s not something we can do when we’re talking about torture or abuse. Accurate information is difficult to find and not accessible for the majority of people. Misinformation and apologia is everywhere. Until that changes I don’t think we can rely on readers filling in the blanks with anything but apologia.
Which is why it’s important to try and think through the implications of what we write.
I hope that helps :)
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You can drag your whumpee by their chains, injuring their wrists and chafing or rubbing them raw. Chain your whumpee to a revolving door and force them to walk for hours in a circle as punishment, where the continuous motion of the door will force them to keep moving until they collapse. If you wish to be especially cruel, chain your whumpee to the back of a vehicle and drive. This will force them to either run or be dragged against the ground, which causes an array of bruises as well as road rash, friction burns, and scrapes from the contact against the road.
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I'm writing a thing with a character who's been restrained sitting down, arms more or less straight out and elbows at 90 degrees with his hands cuffed to the wall just above head height. His heart rate is (magically) elevated during this time to a level equaling strenuous exercise, and he's given half-hour breaks between sessions to rest & rehydrate. Under these conditions, I was wondering the upper time limit of these sessions that wouldn't leave him with lasting physical injuries.
OK well the closest real life equivalent would probably be a standingstress position which tends to have an upper limit of 48 hours at a stretch.Anything longer and victims start dying of kidney failure due to the massivemuscular damage these sorts of tortures cause.
But that’s not a perfect analogy because of the character’s elevatedheart rate.
I’d expect any physical injuries to be similar to what stress positionscause though so I’m just going to run through those quickly.
Now stress positions generally speaking are a ‘clean’ torture. Theydon’t leave obvious, lasting external injuries. Thatmakes it harder to ‘prove’ torture occurred and if that’s relevant to yourstory I have a Masterpost on clean tortures here.
So the restraints themselves can cause injuries. In the position you’vedescribed with little weight on the restraints I think your character wouldavoid any permanent damage entirely. But abrasions, small cuts and bruisesaround the restraints are possible.
Damage to the joints are also possible but in this sort of scenario it’sunlikely to be disabling. It’s more likely to manifest as a sort of chronicpain and soreness, and this is by no means guaranteed.
Over longer periods of time (ie 24 hours) stress positions start tocause swelling in the extremities (where depends on the position but usually thefeet are affected). This is caused by muscle damage. Basically as the musclecells are put under prolonged strain by keeping the position they die. Whenthey die they rupture, releasing a lot of fluid and large proteins into theblood stream.
The fluid tends to accumulate at the extremities. It causes painfulswelling and in some cases causes ulcers as the swelling basically overwhelmsthe skin’s ability to stretch and it ruptures. Ulcers can scar but so far as Iknow they don’t affect mobility later and the swelling dies down in a few dayswith rest.
For the sort of colour change a character would see think of the sortsof colours you’d see in bruising for the swollen area and a pale, ashen drainedlook for the hands since they’re raised above his head.
I also think it’s worth stressing that the long term psychologicalproblems any kind of torture causes are….well ultimately torture causes permanentbrain damage and the result is the long term psychological symptoms we see invictims. That’s not something character can avoid but I appreciate that for thesake of writing we often put those responses in a separate box from the otherphysical injuries.
Going back to your scenario Ithink that the character’s elevated heart rate would reduce the amount of timehe could be ‘safely’ kept in this position. It would probably increase the rateof deaths by heart attack- which might be a detail you can use if this is acommon torture in your setting.
I’d suggest 24 hours as an absolute maximum but I think that after 24 hours the character would need muchlonger than half an hour to recover.
I think after 24 hours he’d be physically exhausted and probably unableto walk unaided. I think he’d need almost another 12-24 hours before he couldbe put back in the device again.
That’s generally more in line with the way stress positions are used: along period in the position (~48 hours) followed by a long period of rest (12hours or so).
If keeping the half hour recovery time is important to the story I thinkyou’d need to reduce the amount of time the character is in the restraints eachtime. Something like an hour would be more reasonable.
Doing it that way you’d also need to remember that the effects anddamage are cumulative, after a total of over 24 hours (24 repetitions) thecharacter would need a longer period of rest to avoid risking…well sudden deathbasically.
You may well have already done it but just in case here’s a link to mypost on the common psychological symptoms of torture which should help youwriting the longer term effects on the character.
You might also find Ronald Searle’s war drawings depicting forcedexercise and stress positions helpful in terms of describing what yourcharacter is going through.
I hope that helps. :)
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