#godefroy

[carmilla-minus-one]

godefroy will return in avengers: doomsday

[golden-not-grafted]

A Not-So-Concise Lore/Headcanon Theory on the History of Godrick the Grafted

He is the son of Godwyn and his unnamed wife (possibly Fia? Or the human form of Fortissax?)

He is the older of twins—him and Godefroy. However, Godefroy is far stronger. This would be a fantasy take on vanishing twin syndrome—ie, the amniotic sacs are connected and blood etc is transferred from one twin to the other. In real life, this is deadly for both, but this fantasy version would have Godefroy growing strong at Godrick’s expense.

He has a malformed leg from birth and is very weak as a result of his birth. While he is cooped up with the various perfumer healers, Godefroy is becoming a squire and eventually a champion and hero in the vein of Radahn.

Whoever his mother is (and this is why I think it's the human form of Forti), she has connections to Limgrave—in particular, Castle Morne, and due to its location, the Temple of Dragon Communion.

The connection to Stormveil Castle is via the mother. Godrick isn’t squatting there, and he didn’t take over—he has some sort of birthright to Stormveil (which is why Leyndell and etc don’t just lead an army to evict him, and why Melania left him there to his own devices—more on that later).

Godfrey is sent away along with his people (Marika’s plans to escape the grasp of the Greater Will have begun—she is planting a backup plan out of the reach of the Greater Will). The Fingers, controlled by Metyr, command Radagon to leave Rennala, and command Radagon and Marika to marry, which results in Melania and Miquella.

Back to his childhood. Godrick spent the time either in medical care (ala Elric of Melbione or Baldwin IV, the so-called Leper King), or studying to find some sort of cure for his condition. The motivating crux of Godrick’s behavior is his sense of inadequacy, and his desire to be like Godfrey. He will do anything to gain power.

He spends time in Sellia, and there learns of the Nox and the Numen, and begins to harbor suspicions about the truth that Marika and the Golden Order are telling.

For reference, Godrick and Godefroy were born around the same time as the Rennala/Radagon children.

Time passes, Godrick remains weak, and Godefroy makes a name for himself in Limgrave. 

It should be noted that prior to Marika and Godfrey marrying, she tricks the Hornsent into making her their God, and then betrays them out of revenge for the Shaman. Around this time, or perhaps prior to it, she has Messmer and Melina with an unknown father (possibly Radagon), then seals away the center of the Lands Between, turning it into the Shadowlands, leaving Messmer there to carry out her crusade against the Hornsent. She builds the Golden Order alongside the existing religions (the Crucible and the Fire Giant) and marries Godfrey, having Godwyn, Mogh and Morgott. Melina raises the Godskins, and has her rebellion as the Gloam-eyed Queen. This rebellion is put down. In retaliation, the Golden Order begins to put down other religions, led by Godfrey and Radagon.

At this time, persecution of the Omen begins and Mogh and Morgott are sent to the Shunning Grounds.

Fire Giant is killed, Godrick and Godefroy are born, Godfrey is sent away.

Godrick’s first memory is of Godfrey and the Tarnished being sent away on the ships.

Okay, back to the ‘present’. The night of the Black Knives occurs. Marika shatters the Elden Ring and is locked away in the Erdtree by Radagon. It should be noted that it is Radagon who is barring the entrance to the Erdtree, as commanded by the Greater Will aka the Two Fingers.

The demigods all receive a Great Rune—except Godrick. Godefroy is the original owner of Godrick’s Great Rune.

There is minor chaos before Morgott emerges from the Shunning Grounds, wearing the Mimic’s Veil, and wrests control of the Lands Between. Miquella and Melania have been building the Haligtree for many years at this point, and do not oppose him taking over.

Over many years, the Lands Between collapse—consider the slow motion collapse of the Roman Empire.

Godrick begins to scheme against his brother, who is extremely ambitious by his nature. He convinces Godefroy that Morgott is usurping his birthright—as the son of Godwyn, Marika’s first son, Godefroy has more claim to the throne than Morgott, who is her second son, and, per Morgott’s lie that he left the Land’s Between with Godfrey and returned when Grace called him back, a foreign usurper.

At the same time, he makes an ally/friend with Ancient Dragon Knight Kristoff. Remember that Godrick is directly related to dragons, and thusly would have a lot of sway with people who participate in dragon communion. He relays his suspicions that Godefroy is planning something against Leyndell. 

Eventually, Godefroy decides to lay siege against Leyndell—this is the first Defense of Leyndell. Limgrave is the most fertile part of the Lands Between, and probably has the largest armies. Godefroy leaves Kenneth Haight in charge of Fort Haight, and Edgar in charge of Castle Morne (or their families, at least).

During the first defense of Leyndell, all of the Demigods rally in defense. Godrick told Godefroy that he would be his man on the inside, but when the time comes and Godefroy comes to get Godrick to uphold his part, Godrick instead stabs him and calls for Kristoff.

During the fight, Godefroy bites Godrick on the arm.

Kristoff captures Godefroy, and Godrick claims his Great Rune.

Per the description of the Toothed Whip: “Whip bestrewn with rotting, misshapen teeth. Filthy and seething with disease, the teeth are embedded in the whip and dose the victim with deadly poison upon each strike. As the wounds ripen they grow inflamed and ooze pus. The flesh of shamans was said to meld harmoniously with others.”

Godrick’s wound begins to heal oddly, and he realizes that the flesh of other people is able to stick to it perfectly.

He begins to experiment on Godefroy, who is currently trapped in the Golden Lineage Evergaol, eventually turning him into the Godrick Asset Reuse we see in the game.

Meanwhile, in Calied and the Haligtree, Radahn and Miquella have been scheming to overthrow the Golden Order and replace it with their new, perfect order.

Radahn invades Leyndell and is turned back by Morgott in the guise of Margit. This is when the collapse becomes obvious. It is also when Kristoff, who has been harboring suspicions against Godrick, finally airs them. He has come to realize that Godrick has been grafting Godefroy, and that Godrick was behind Godefroy's attempt to sack Leyndell. Godrick manages to kill Kristoff with his new strength from minor grafting, and flees Leyndell with a bunch of treasures—including the Mimic Veil, which he uses to disguise himself as a woman. He escapes with the help of a thief and prisoner, Gostoc, who's loyalty he acquires by offering to graft Gostoc a new arm—Gostoc's arm was cut off as a punishment for theft.

Margit cannot return to the form of Morgott, and conjures the illusion of Godfrey outside the throne room to hide himself. He then goes into reclusion, speaking only seldom from a balcony, wearing a veil to hide his omen nature.

Godrick claims his birthright and overtakes Stormveil Castle.

Because he and Radahn both studied in Sellia, Godrick has some awareness of his and Miquella’s plans. He threatens to air these, and that is why Melania comes to attack him.

He loses badly, and begs for his life.

She cuts off his arm (in a cruel irony of her own condition), and leaves him in Stormveil with a bunch of Exiled Knights to keep him there. He is a Lord in name only, only playing at ruling, while in reality he is a prisoner in all but name.

At this point, the Tarnished begin to return, and Morgott sends Margit and the Night's Calvary out to hunt Tarnished. The illusory Margit at Stormveill is placed to guard Godrick, who is still the weakest of the Demigods, in order to stop powerful Tarnished from claiming a Great Rune.

As a prisoner, Godrick becomes more and more unstable. He attempts to graft Gostoc a new arm, which fails. Godefroy had children, who Godrick attempts to graft to save them after they are injured during an accident. This goes horribly wrong and they end up as the Grafted Scions.

He realizes (mistakenly) that it is only the Golden Lineage that can be grafted, and assumes that this is the ultimate fate of his bloodline—Godfrey had Sarosh, after all. He does not realize that this ability stems from Marika.

Godrick's experiments get more and more extreme, until he ends up as the unstable, mangled man that we see in the game, obsessed over his own dwindling power, and the legacy of the Golden Lineage.

And then we kill him!

[opaattack]

The Capture of Godefroy the Grafted

[eternallysimping]

judging you based on the elden ring character you simp for part 2:

tap here for part 1

radahn

‌a kindred soul with elite taste, i trust you with my life

‌your main criteria for your man is that he has to be big and tall and will treat you right - a wholesome gentle giant if you may

‌you definitely have a size kink and prone to think figures of authority and by that i mean generals, especially the most charismatic ones, are sexy

ranni

‌before i continue with her i just want to know: how does it feel like to be winning in life?

‌cause like?? you get to marry her?? that is literally the best you can ever hope for as an ending in this goddamn game-

‌you absolutely love cunning magical girls

‌i'm super sure you had a major crush on gwen from ben 10 growing up or maybe sunny instead

rykard

‌tanith move aside sister, someone might be taking your place

‌you are a monsterfucker and i'm convinced you checked out naga x reader tag in tumblr at least once or a handful of times in your life

‌you're the level of freaky similar to a bard in a dnd campaign that will fuck a 20+ ft dragon

mohg

‌i firmly believe your type is the 3 Bs: bad, bloody, and bitchy

‌you're most likely to be involved in a blood cult in real life

‌i think you enjoy some bloodplay and have a knife kink, with a side of degradation for good measure

‌throwing it out there i can sense you might have the hots for loki from marvel

morgott

‌you have a big "i can be his greatest source of comfort" energy which is, good for you for having so much love to give

‌you have such a type with misunderstood guys and it's a major bonus if they're big

‌from this alone i am convinced that beauty and the beast might be one of your favorite movies growing up

godwyn

you have a thing for selfless oldest brother, and he's more or less likely the favorite of his parents too - the golden child

you are were definitely a dick grayson simp i'm calling it now (dc may or may not have accidentally made him the blueprint for the hot and favorite oldest brother that people end up crushing so hard on)

i feel i can trust you - i can totally see the appeal of this one

godefroy

i have never seen anyone openly simp for this one so if you do then i have to say: i'm sorry you're part of the minority, chief - the very, very, very, very small minority; it must be a tough and lonely path to walk on

i don't really have any opinions or thoughts about godefroy simps except that you're probably alone in that simping area so congrats?? you have him all for yourself?? so enjoy i guess??

godrick

‌i see a few people that want this man and i just want to know one thing: why?

‌if you have a thing for this guy i fully believe you had the hots for four arms (from Ben 10, the beefy red alien with you guessed it four arms) and with his more than extra set of limbs he's basically a walking wet dream for you-

miquella

‌i'm very, to say the least, conflicted about this

i see a couple of art with aged-up looking miquella and a post somewhere that they look young/adult young so you're good on that part

but if you go with child-version of miquella with impure thoughts then i want you far away from me and get some much needed help or jail time, could be both

however personality wise i totally see you going for the smart and cunning type that has a soft spot for their family

malenia

‌your type are the warrior women that can simply obliterate your spine without breaking a sweat and i both respect and fear for your life for it

‌wonder woman was definitely your crush growing up or she still is, i support your taste

but if you're the malenia simp that justifies her actions by strongly bringing down radahn then i'm sorry but you're toxic

so i'm a biiiiit tempted to make a part 3 but i feel it's so lacking (part 2 is a total of nine characters so i feel it would be good to have part 3 contain ten or so).

so far, i only have blaidd, finlay, loretta, gideon, and varre in mind

[toweringclam]

Godefroy Investigation Part 3: Godrick or Godefroy?

To address some comments from the previous part: I realize that the timeline of the Dragon Cult's acceptance at the capitol isn't exactly clear. While it's existed in the Capitol ever since Gransax attacked, there seems to have been a political shift wherein the Dragon Knights were rechristened as the Leyndell Knights.

Anway.

The reason this took so long is I had numerous starts and stops. I wasn't sure where to take this next. New research undermined old theories. Case in point, I had a massive post with lots of quotes and supporting evidence. I'd been working on it for days. I deleted it all when I looked at this image. Really, REALLY looked at it. Because I came to a startling revelation that upended everything.

We all recognize this scene from the announcement trailer, way back in 2019. At the time, the image sparked our imaginations. Now that we know it's just Godrick, the first major boss of the game, it probably doesn't elicit very much thought. But I think it might be a key to this puzzle.

Now, previous games have had less than indicative trailers. The Dark Souls 2 trailer included a lot of things that wouldn't make it into the final cut, for example. Elden Ring feels a lot tighter, probably because it was working from a pretty concrete design document, and the trailers only focused on the characters created by GRRM. So I think we can still use the trailers to guide our lore investigations.

So first of all, note the way he bows his head. Is this reverence or submission? The hand on his face could imply shame, though that fades as the hand starts to twitch. This arm is important. He knows that there was a sacrifice involved. It will bless him with strength, and he will bless it with life.

Now I said we know it's Godrick, but it may be more accurate to say we assume it's Godrick. But he existence of Godefroy, his exact doppelganger, should throw this into question. So which Grafted is that? Well...contrast that image with this.

Godrick throwing a tantrum. Screaming like a lunatic. Chopping off his own arm (his own LEFT) arm just so he can violently fist a dragon's thrussy.

I showed these to a friend of mine who's not as familiar with the lore, and he assumed they had to be two different characters. He didn't think it was possible that the character who so gently attached a new left arm to his own could later just hack off the same arm like that. And I think he might have been onto something.

I don't think that was Godrick in the initial trailer.

I think it was Godefroy.

And next post, I'm gonna prove it.

[ozblok]

Made Godefroy in Hero Forge

Siege Commander

Stormveil Ruler

Evergaol Prisoner

[mistleaneous-chaos]

I love the 'Meet the Demigods' Elden Ring AU so much! What a lovely mess of a dysfunctional family and I hope you do more.

However, not to be a nitpicky nerd. I saw your old blogs that mentioned about the relationship of Godrick and Godefroy. Based on evidences in game, Godefroy cannot be older than Godrick. (Even though I know it's a popular headcanon)

The reason that Godefroy cannot be older - is that Godrick inherited the Great Rune and the title 'The Golden'... Likely after Godwyn is killed. And if Godefroy is older it'd gone to him, because the moment when Godefroy was imprisoned is after the title (likely was given before the shattering) and the rune shard is given to Godrick.

In the end we won't know the truth yet unless it's expanded in DLC

Ok first off, I'm glad you like the AU!

And secondly, I'm going to be completely honest I keep forgetting Godefroy exists so that's actually really good to know, and holy shit you're smart as hell for putting that all together.

I think I should probably compile what I know about Godefroy and Godrick and try and conjure a guess at their relationship. This is probably gonna be mostly headcanon and inferrence so take it with many grains of salt(A salt shaker? Idk where this metaphor can go but w/e)

Ok so first off, we know that Godefroy likely participated in a War at some point, whether that was during the Shattering or whenever. He was then captured by Kristoff, which was a big deal since it allowed him an Erdtree Burial, meaning Godefroy had some renown

If Godefroy cannot be older, then I'm going to conjure a guess of the 2 of them being twins instead, or a younger brother but not by much if what I heard about twins being scorned in the Lands Between being true. Godefroy was likely the braver of the 2, whereas Godrick was a coward, as Godefroy made himself able to be captured, whereas Godrick is said to have hid in his castle from Radahn and immediately kneeled to his opponents if they proved too powerful

One line from Godrick that always stuck out to me was his last lines when he died and the end of his remembrance:  "One day we'll return together, to our home, bathed in rays of gold." This line just screams significance to me, as it just seems as if he's talking to someone. I think he may be talking to Godefroy, as he was likely completely gone mentally by the time of his death, and while other bosses speak directly to you after their death, Godrick sounds like he's talking to someone else, and if he's as cruel to his people as they make him out to be, the idea of him talking to his lost brother isn't that far-fetched

The 2 of them likely wanted to make something of themselves. This is proved by Marika's words to the demigods, telling them to at least try and make something out of themselves as to avoid being thrown away(Like her many, MANY kids in mausoleums). Godefroy was likely the leader of the 2, seeing as he was stronger, and a higher priority to catch considering that after he was imprisoned the Order just, let Godrick do whatever the fuck he wanted in Limgrave, possibly due to the fact that he was a shard-bearer, or the fact that he wouldn't have had the courage his brother did.

The 2 likely idolized Godwyn. This is mainly Godrick-centric but I feel as if it may be important to point out. Godrick bases himself a lot more off of Godwyn than he does Godfrey(Though he does idolize godfrey a great deal, don't get me wrong). But I think that the 2 of them are descendants of Godwyn, whether that be his children or grandchildren. And they knew of how amazing he was and just wanted to be able to match up to him. Which is why Godrick took the title of "Godrick the Golden", and why he idolized the dragon so much, because of Godwyn's dealings with Fortissax and the idea of the dragon being a "true heir" to that cult and the ideals of Godwyn and Fortissax

This last "point" is majorly head canon, but I think Godrick probably cared about Godefroy more than any other allies or family he had. The reasoning is because not only did he try and emulate his strength and everything, but his remembrance states also that "A feeble man sought power through the grotesque art of grafting". I looked at the other Remembrances and every one of them said their originators by name, but Godrick's didn't in that line. So, what if Godefroy sought out the art of Grafting first, and taught Godrick so that, in spite of the 2 of them having weak constitutions and diluted blood, they could make something of themselves as their ancestor intended, and Godrick tried to carry it on when he was imprisoned, keeping his memory alive so that they could go back to their home after being sent to the fringes. Also, it'd make more sense for Morgott to send a phantom to protect him, likely out of pity and sentiment due to knowing the feeling of losing a brother

Sorry if this answer is like, longer than it needed to be, it just really got me thinking and when I do that I just spew thoughts out of my keyboard. Also I lowkey really like Godrick angst(And all Elden Ring angst tbh) and wanted to put some of it out into the world, and your ask helped with that!

[illustratus]

The Surrender of General John Burgoyne at the Battle of Saratoga, 7th October 1777