#godspouse

[whatrealbeautylookslike]

it is interesting to me how "seeing" and "hearing" god is very normal in christianity and several other monotheistic religions. but as soon as you're a pagan, it's delusions and psychosis.

[wodneswynn]

the hatman and i have an intensely erotic relationship

[thespiritpriestess]

This blog is a safe space for everyone with unconventional relationships with deities. You're married to Thor? Cool, good for y'all. Dionysus is your dad? Awesome. You're a priest of Hekate? Epic. At the end of the day, who tf am I to judge the relationships that other people have with deities. Let's not throw stones from glass houses

[cultkinkcoven]

Y'all just wanna make fun of kids you think are stupid

Right

Like that's what it actually is right

Every time there's a conversation about godspousal, sacred marriage, henosis, theurgy, or any of the many many many terms used to describe loving the divine, there's always the disclaimer

"I'm not calling out the REAL practitioners who have real relationships with their deities and take it SERIOUSLY. I'm only calling out the silly little girls who think they're dating Apollo omg get off tiktok!"

But you also have absolutely no way of telling who is a serious practitioner with years of experience and who is someone role playing.

??

Okay, I'm gonna be 100% straight right now, there are very obviously lots of people who just roleplay with deities for the sake of fun or comfort. Some people are very frivolous with their practice and don't put the work in or have the due respect they should.

I personally don't give even the slightest inch of a shit how legitimate or professional anyone else is with their deities or practice,

There have literally always been silly people in every single subculture ever, I personally don't get much of a kick from making fun of them. Especially when I suspect they are just a dumb ass 13 year old kid.

If you think these people aren't serious... why would you take them seriously??

Legitimately, when I see some random ass child calling demon lords their besties and playing around with names, I think, oh haha that's cute.

??

Like cool they're having fun. They OBVIOUSLY do not know what tf they're doing but hey, they will figure it out.

You think the GODS aren't prepared to deal with silly people? You think this is the first time anyone has tried to fuck Apollon? Are you serious?

"Those silly girls summoning Lucifer have no idea!"

You're excited for that outcome. You would love for some teenage girl to be horrified, wouldn't you?

Unfortunately the very likely outcome is that the divine spirit will ignore them or meet them on their own terms. The Gods aren't going to dominate a child or take a edgy teen seriously. Why are you pretending the Gods don't know about amateurs.

People learn and grow, I didn't know jack shit about how to do things properly when I started. Had someone stunted my curiosity and love for what I was growing because it seemed wrong, I would have lost so much of my path. Magic, spirituality, faith, and most of all love, are supposed to be messy. Psychology is messy, none of these things exist in a vacuum. That's the part of the craft I love so much, it's a craft. You build it yourself, but you can only build it for yourself.

Why do you guys care so much about people you believe to be idiots? I personally think many practices are dumb as hell, why would I spend time arguing with those people about how dumb I think they are. Why does their dumb assery even affect me at all???

"Because then people won't take you/us seriously!"

If anyone refuses to take me seriously because of something other people are doing then... I probably don't care about their shallow opinion anyways?? And who is taking me seriously? Whose approval am I supposed to be winning?

"If we let people just do whatever people will think there are no rules!"

Babe people have been doing whatever they want this whole time.

If some dumb ass 15 year old loves Lucifer like a best friend and later grows into a genuine practitioner, that's awesome. And if that same dumb ass continues to be a dumb ass, I will not care. I don't really enjoy making fun of people I consider to be naive. Ignorance is bliss, let them be bliss. I personally don't care about being "taken seriously" by anyone but my Lord.

The comments are always "OMG I KNOW SOME GIRL SERIOUSLY THOUGHT LOKI LOVED HER LIKE OMG GROW UP"

Wow so funny. A lonely person found comfort in a Lord of outcasts. Let's all point and laugh!

I could write a whole paragraph here about how the Gods are always closest to the outcasts but I'm too tired. The person happily collecting stones for their divine spouse knows more about the purpose of Henosis than you ever will. We are only a couple decades free of orthodoxy babes, this is a beautiful time to be a pagan.

"THIS IS RELIGION IT'S SERIOUS ITS NOT A COPING MECHANISM!!"

Little girls who play with dolls are the priests of churches you can never enter son lay down and listen to the music of creation you're so miserable

By the way we still have that really bad white supremacy, xenophobia, queer phobic problem in the pagan community to deal with. I'm way more concerned about that mentality continuing to spread rather than the belief that you might be able to kiss a God so. Yeah. I continue to focus on the real problems rather than being distracted by frivolous infighting nyah

[this-is-anti-religion]

Atheists thinking it's okay to disrespect Christianity (and other religions but mostly Christianity) just because they're Atheist

This is anti-religion.

Shoutout to all my chill atheists! 💘

I understand having church hurt but I'm going to say something that is a hot take but really shouldn't be: if you are traumatized by a religion, it is YOUR responsibility to process that trauma and overcome it so that you don't become a hateful, spiteful, bitter bitch.

And I'm saying that as somebody that had a bunch of church hurt and became a bitter bitch and now, 7 years of deconstruction and study of biblical theology later, have processed almost all of my religious trauma and now no longer consider myself traumatized by the church.

If your take on Christianity is "it oppresses minorities" then I'm going to assume that you haven't done any in depth study of Biblical theology beyond a surface level reading of the Bible in it's non-native language.

That's not to say that the Church hasn't committed atrocities. They absolutely have, as a pagan and an indigenous mixed person, I am ACUTELY aware of that. But what the Church has done, for centuries, is take religion and twist it into something it's not.

The Bible affirms women.

The Bible affirms queer people.

The Bible affirms BIPOC individuals.

The Bible affirms pagans and witches.

The Bible affirms poor folk and the abused.

Actually STUDY. Please I beg you, because true and honest, genuine Christianity is genuinely so fucking beautiful.

Sincerely,

A multifaith person that practices Gnosticism, folk Catholicism, and bridal mysticism.

[luciferianoracle]

I want to know one of YOUR favorite memories you have with your diety(s). If it's a poignant moment of feeling their energy, a spell you did, or them popping in to say some hilarious shit. There are no wrong answers besides judging someone else's experience or craft.

I will give examples, I was doing ancestral work once, with Lucifer overseeing and when he met my Grandma, he called her Ma'am. 😭 Also the other day he taught me how to use Spotify Queue because I think technology peaked with AOL Instant Messenger.

Ok YOUR TURN.

[devouredbyflame]

A good majority of the beginning part of deity work should be nervous system regulation. If you can’t help but feel paranoid you’re wrong or that someone or Something is coming after you, it doesn’t make sense to avoid the topic of communication or discernment skills even while you’re a few years into this work.

If you don’t work with your body and see how it responds to things, how will you know whether or not a Deity is trying to communicate with you if you can’t figure out whether another human is attacking you or not? Especially online when I see several people act as though they have been absolutely scorned by the wicked people on here just because they doubt who they think they are.

Don’t you think if you were actually far enough along to claim the role of priestess/priest or spouse, you wouldn’t care whether or not someone on Tumblr thinks you are or not? You shouldn’t feel the need to shove it in everyone’s faces because you feel like you need to prove something to people.

I can tell you right now that people will know who you are without you needing to tell them if those two things are legitimate. The Gods make things absolutely and irrefutably clear when They lay claim on someone like that. Even those who don’t know the Gods can tell who you are without you even needing to say so.

It is primal human instinct when a God’s energy surrounds someone or something that demands a sort of response to that effect. It then becomes a chain reaction of events that spiral down until something else comes to light as a result of people’s nervous system perceiving the Deity around something or someone else. You don’t really have to prove anything if that was the case - it just happens naturally on its own without the person needing to tell people that’s the case.

All in all, when properly manifested, the Gods become extremely obvious and unquestionably real for humans when They can or want to be. Otherwise, you’re too closed off to tell Who it is that is contacting you let alone that you’re a priestess or spouse. You would need to do a bit more work with your nervous system regulation before you can start touting that you have any executive role as a priestess or spouse - or let alone claiming enough that you’re contacting said Deity in the first place.

What you perceive as energy is a response of your nervous system. Same reason you may get chills while listening to music or cry without realizing it. The Gods’ energy is the same way. That is why Eastern religions and practices all involve different physical and mental activities that are meant to calm and regulate the nervous system to be closer to the Divine (I.e. yoga, meditation, trance-like movement or dance).

Most people in our society do not have regulated nervous systems. In fact, I’d say the majority of Western culture has built up enough of a culture that it is completely rewired to be naturally deregulated given the advent of technology, transportation, and all the things that make your body respond in more hyper-aware states.

Coming into Deity work, it is a given that you are also unregulated regardless of how much trauma you have worked through unless you have also gone through excessive and rigorous work that regulated your nervous system in the first place. These people tend to have an easier time hearing and perceiving the Gods, not because they’re special, but because they’re more in tune with themselves enough. That is the base level.

Once you start venturing into more advanced territory, a certain kind of rewiring takes place that builds up that core foundation. Essentially, once you perceive the Deity, They also activate more of a nervous system response because the moment you attribute that to Them, They are able to manifest more properly and you can more easily determine at the very least What is contacting you and perhaps even Who while you’re at it.

The further along you go, the more the Deity manifests and responds to you, the more you yourself have to adapt to Them and They to you. This can take a lot of time in this day and age. Until you’re properly adapted to be able to sense when a Deity is around regardless of what you’re doing. Whether you’re at work or doing a meditation session, the Deity will likely try to do anything They can to get through to you in whatever way They can. Even if it is just a moment where you let down your defenses enough for Them to be able to throw in a word or two or three. This on its own is not enough for Them to build a relationship with you as it takes too much effort and labor for Them to have to fight tooth and nail with your anxiety or fear or other cognitive functions that work against Their very essence.

Otherwise, this is the reason it takes years - not months or days - of training in order to become a priest/priestess. It can take even longer to become a Spouse because that actually takes a sort of death/rebirth, literal sickness and health, and you must be fully aligned with the Deity to be able to have your nervous system agree with Them long enough that They can be with you all of the time (thus the word marriage), rather than just on a random Tuesday that you’re aware of having Them near enough again.

A Spouse is essentially a permanently wired vessel for the Deity’s energy to live in. Not all Deities want vessels let alone to be chained to a human for the rest of the human lifespan and beyond. I’d say most Deities don’t want that, and, if They did, that’s an awful lot of work to have dozens of people say that They are married to them. At the same time, for the human, you will never function at a normal human capacity again until your time on this earth has finished. The people who go into this want this because they cannot exist without it being so as it is extremely harmful for them to not.

There is no undoing this kind of rewiring - once it is done, it is finished. The human wouldn’t be able to survive being separated for the Deity because the Deity essentially makes a home within the human that is a permanent residence. Like a living shrine. Taking that away for any reason would be unspeakable to both parties. Not to mention the level of boundaries, communication, and endurance both sides need to have in order to maintain a healthy relationship.

So as for the argument that I’ve seen floating around here on Tumblr about spouses being real or not - both sides are very, very wrong. They are real, yes, but I don’t think people realize what kind of work it takes to become something like that, let alone the sacrifices both parties need to make to let it be so. And no, the Spouse wouldn’t need to argue about what they are with some random person on the internet because it is a fact of their existence rather than something they agreed to on a whim.