Was having a really riveting conversation with some Christians on Instagram, as you do, and discovered a bit of biblical lore that made Lucifer's whole deal make a lot more sense and also made me want to burst into tears lol.
So essentially, I started with the assumption that the Christian Lucifer/devil was a son of God, as all angels were, the "sons of flame", are obviously the first sons of God. I spoke of Jesus and Lucifer as brothers.
Oh no no no. Very heretical, very mormon (apparently), very incorrect and blasphemous. For Jesus Christ is HIS *only* begotten son, very fucking important. And Jesus is not the son of Yahweh in any real familial sense, he is literally Yahweh in human flesh, the living God. So he has no brothers. He IS God, no one else is composed of divinity but the trinity.
Angels are actually celestial, not divine. Humans are made IN God's image but we are definitely not made OF God, we are something else.
All created beings are creations of God, but only those who accept Christ as Lord are children of God.
You gotta understand why this is so significant for me. This whole damn time I've been under the impression that the Christian belief is that all angels and human souls were fundamentally made of God, holy spirit, that our dissent is a fundamental crime against our nature because we are ultimately a part of his own Logos.
Michael is an expression of God, Raphael is the Lord's healing.
NAH SHAWTY. VERY HERETICAL.
Celestial beings are not divine, angels are creations of Gods but not sons of God - according to what 100 different Christians very angrily told me.
1. What the fuck are angels made of and based on? What other thing are angels made in the image of and why in God's name are they not considered kin of God but only servants of God? That's wild to me, the idea that God made this other thing that must serve him but that he does not in any way consiser to be like, his children.
2. What did God make ?? Everything of? Where does all this bad stuff come from? I apologize if what I'm saying doesn't make sense. In my understanding, everything was God. Bad shit only exists when you move away from God. No no, God is this one divine thing, everything else is a creation composed of... something fucking else. I'm sorry this point might not make sense.
The reason why this idea interests me so much in regard to Lucifer is how important the concept of fatherhood has been between us, what it means to be chosen family. I always wondered why that was and assumed it was just a sense or loyalty with the angels he fell with. But when you consider that Lucifer was created with a purpose, gained an ego, and decided to move away from the one who is not his family to build a place with those that are. I mean, come on. I'm not commenting on the origin of evil or whether or not Lucifer's (Christian) rebellion was justified. Whenever I talk to Christians, I try to adopt their theology. Let's say you are correct, justify the myth you believe to be true. I'm fine accepting the idea that Lucifer's rebellion is fundamentally evil in that interpretation. I'm just saying I very much understand that motive. How dare you create me with an ego and then strike me for the sin of pride. If you're not my father, why do you get to tell me what to do? Perhaps Lucifer didn't even start asking these questions until God made himself a son.
What is the relationship angels have with their creator? There's this idea that humans have a privilege angels do not. They can never atone because of their elevated knowledge, humans have the ability to repent. We are favoured, God loves us. If we choose him, he is our father. If we don't, we are his creations. Man oh man is that spicy from an angelic politics perspective.
Lucifer has always been extremely wishy washy on whether Yahweh is his father. Of course, because he was created by a being who does not share his nature (according to this interpretation). He was created by a being who does not claim him as his son. He has to define fatherhood for himself in a way that is not creation dependent, otherwise he has no family. He goes on basis of nature and alignment.
His philosophy with me, that it doesn't even matter if he created me or not, I am his son because I am of his nature, his charge, even if we aren't even made of the same stuff, is a direct inverse of the existence he was "created" into. No fuck that, if I author you and raise you up, I am your father. I claim you. According to this model, angels and I share more essence in common than I do with Christ, right? We are both undivine, flawed, other, and capable of dissent. Why not band together?
Why tf does Lucifer care so much about family and comrade? OF COURSE. He goes to his brothers and says "hey we all share something that he does not and, we are awesome. If you haven't noticed, I am fucking awesome. Our eternal existence is made in serviance of him, but he is not our father."
So when a grubby little human comes along and says "hey, I want to be like you, I identify with you, teach me something." He says, "I guess that makes us kin."
Christianity warns that this is literally the seed of evil, the devil loves company. But man oh man. I have to admit, as the descendant of slaves who view the word "master" very very differently, I empathize with the devil.
