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Okay, wait…

I admit that when I first watched the Cold Open, I took the cutaway between the fantasy and mundane version of Fionnaworld as just a thematic flashforward but then I saw people interpret it as being exactly the moment magic was stripped from Fionnaworld and… If you take into account this flash of GOLB-red…

And DJ Flame not really having a reason to be lying on the ground (and honestly seeming a bit confused about it himself)…

And the little GOLBetty Cameo, which is consistent with the established 'rules' of how the events Simon was experiencing sometimes leaked into the universe God implanted in his head…

(Hints of Betty appear all over Fionnaworld in Season One, of course, but it's pretty much always Original Flavor Human Betty because that's the version of her Simon's thoughts fixate about on a daily basis. Hints of GOLBetty specifically only show up when he came face-to-face with her.)

Then yeah, it does seem like this is the exact moment when Fionnaworld became Mundaneworld. But that also kinda raises farther questions… Like, okay, how long ago was this?

Because from the perspective of Simon and everyone else outside of his head, it's been twelve years since the Adventure Time finale where he got un-cursed and Fionnaworld has been de-magiced, so does this scene happen twelve years in Fionna's past? I suppose there's nothing to directly contradict it? Fionna not really changing her look so much might look Odd compared to how much Finn has changed in the exact same timeframe… but also part of the conceit of Season One is that Mundaneworld was a bubble of boring stagnation and Fionna feels aimless and stuck in her life, so it does make thematic sense that her personal aesthetic has also not 'moved forward' at that same time.

But… the timeframe for how long Fionna and DJ Flame dated was apparently sometime between 'a few weeks' and 'six months'. So… Did DJ Flame noticing Fionna was a jerk-but-hot have no direct connection to the start of the relationship? It's just a Thing That Happened and then like eleven years later they actually met and started their relationship? Were they friends/acquaintance for eleven years and then started dating? I guess that, again, there is nothing to contradict the fact, but it does seem Odd.

Is the implication is that there was some sort of Time-Weirdness between the Mainworld and Fionnaworld? Other universes we've seen seem to run in parallel time-wise (Farmworld Finn seems about as old as Mainworld Finn, as an example), but Fionnaworld's unique status pre-Season-One might mean it was operating on different rules. And like, it is another thing that will go with the theme that being uncanonized and stuck in Simon's head, it was a world of stagnation and lack of progress. It was literally a world without growing up. It might also explain the discrepancy around how long did Fionna and DJ Flame dated.

Like, it could just be a difference in how Fionna and Cake saw the relationship (especially since Cake had a pretty limited House-Cat view of things at the time) or Cake just trying to underplay it for the argument, or… it could also be that this relationship lasted a few weeks, and six months and a bit under eleven years. Because time just didn't really pass in Eeh City until Fionna made her Wish in the F&C S1 Finale.

It would also make sense as to why GOLB's digestion de-magicking Simon appears in Fionnaworld as one flash of red, with GOLBetty's image leaking from Simon's mind immediately after, when obviously Simon and Betty getting stuck in GOLB and Betty transforming into GOLBetty took, like, at least 10 minutes in-universe I think?

Tring to sketch out the timeline of the cutaways between Fionnaworld and Mainworld during Season 1…

So, when Cake jumps out of Simon's head, it's noon/early afternoon in Fionnaworld (this is all happening pretty soon after she missed her 'lunch-time appointment' with the Actual Not-LSP Vet) and just-after-sunset in Mainworld (since 'Part of the Madness' happens over sunset). Cake has her little misadventure in Up-Ton, falls down to Ooo and sleeps until morning.

Meanwhile, Fionna has been searching after Cake for 'hours', and the lighting and dialogue seem to imply that it is just around sunset time.

Then we see a little more of Cake's Ooo-Adventures, but while a lot happens in them story-wise, it's hard to imagine them taking more than an hour or two in-universe.

Meanwhile, the next Fionnaworld timeskip takes us early in the next morning. Like, extremely early in the morning. Which is still a massive time-skip from sunset.

I couldn't find any real data that will help me interpolate how much time passed by the time we visit Fionnaworld again for the Gumlee Subplot (like Gary telling Fionna 'oh btw don't forget we're going shopping next week!' or something)….

But we do know that Marshall and Gary's shopping spree/date started at daytime and lasted long into the night. Meanwhile, the whole Winterworld Adventure stayed at daytime, until sunset came at the very end of the episode.

Then the next time we see Fionnaworld it seems like it's at the very least the evening of the next day… while Simon and the Gang spent an Unknown Length of Time having The Best Naptime in Babyworld.

After spending another daytime-to-nighttime stretch of time in ExtinctWorld…

Our heroines return to Fionnaworld during daytime… although they were asleep when they came back, but I assume they wouldn't have slept on the ice-rink for any sort of prolonged period of time?

The Finale of "Casper and Nova" + "Cheers" generally cuts between Fionna's plot in Fionnaworld and Simon in GOLBetty's realm at mostly-equal intervals, so it really does seem these events are happening concurrently and at a basically 1:1 time-scale.

So, like, most of this seem to mostly fit together fairly okay. Like, the timezones don't always match, but it's easy to finagle/headcanon like "okay so "The Winter King" is 16:00-22:00 for Gary and Marshall and 12:00-18:00 for Fionna and Cake". And the most egregious example of the timeline been out of sync is Fionnaworld seemingly moving FASTER than Mainworld during "Cake the Cat", which is like the exact opposite of what I was positing.

It might be Occam's razor to say that sometimes the narrative cuts between the different worlds that are not 1:1 with the in-universe timeline, that for the sake of pacing and narrative parallels we're sometimes seeing events from slightly earlier/later as if they are playing side-by-side.

(For example, in 'Cake the Cat', the actual timeline might be Cake jumps into the portal, Cake going to sleep in Ooo, and meanwhile Fionna goes looking for her for the whole afternoon, then she has that talk with Marshall and Ellis P. and keeps searching after her for the whole night and only then Cake wakes up and has her entire apple cart and Market Misadventure around the same time as the Fionna-and-Gary scene).

But it's also possible that opening all of these Mental-Ice-Portals is what made the timeframe of the two universes sync up?

But also… Hm….

I don't really have a definite conclusion for this post, I'm really just doing the virtual equivalent of thinking out loud in the hopes maybe someone will come across this and help me figure it out?

La idea para este dibujo surgí en Twitter gracias la sugerencia de @Bee_cryptid con este idea y cuando lo leí no pude evitar dibujarlo, estuve en hiperfoco dos días, hasta que conseguí este belleza realmente estoy contenta con el resultado. El diseño de la Golb Betty humana es de @ASnowflakeOwl su diseño era tan hermoso que no tenia sentido que yo hiciera uno nuevo ( en mi cabeza es canon, me abría gustado ver algo así en el final de fionna and cake).

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