A baby.
Traitor father.
Whore mother.
Broken vows.
King.
A little while ago based on a parallel between Jaime-Cersei-Robert and Margaery-Renly-Loras with Sansa-Jon-D/enerys (three brother-sister-spouse triangle), I opened myself to a possibility of a j0nerys marriage before we got a jonsa endgame. However, as I was completing this jonsa parallel post from 2x10 when we saw Joffrey break his betrothal to Sansa for Margaery, I decided that maybe we won’t see a j0nerys marriage at all. All we need to see is Jon breaking his vow to D/ny, it could be a betrothal or perhaps his “pledge” that has happened in the Dragonpit meeting in season 7 was enough.
Before I delve into that discussion, first I’ll just present the parallels between Jon and Sansa’s scene in this episode, as usual.
1. Traitor Father
Joffrey is thanking the people who helped him defeat Stannis, including the Tyrells. Loras is asking him to marry Margaery but Joffrey is still betrothed to Sansa. Cersei remind him that Sansa is a daughter of a traitor.
Meanwhile Jon was captured by the wildlings with Qhorin Halfhand. Qhorin taunted Jon, forcing Jon to fight with him and kill him so the wildlings would trust Jon. He taunted him by saying that he has a traitor father.
Jon killed him and earned the trust of the wildlings.
2. A Vow
Joffrey said that he took a holy vow in front of the Gods. But later Grand Maester Pycelle told him that the High Septon release him from that vow.
Qhorin reiterates their holy Night’s Watch vow as Jon push his sword to him.
Both Sansa and Jon were in a limbo situation at that time. Sansa is in King’s Landing and she was supposed to marry Joffrey who she already hated at that time while Jon already has one of his foot in the wildling camp but is still considered as a crow. Sansa’s betrothal with Joffrey and Qhorin Halfhand acted as a tether for Sansa to the Crown and Jon to the Night’s Watch. They both are being released from that tether in this episode.
Joffrey was asked to set aside Sansa in favour of Margaery.
At that time Margaery had been married to Renly but they never consummate their marriage before Renly died. She is much like book Sansa who had been married to Tyrion but never consummate their marriage. In the show, because Sansa was given the Ramsay storyline, this parallel doesn’t hold, but probably it will hold in the books?
Joffrey breaking his betrothal in this episode could be a foreshadowing for what will happen with Jon in season 8.
The Gods do indeed hold betrothal solemn, but your father, blessed be his memory, made this pact before the Starks revealed their falseness. I have consulted with the High Septon and he assures me that their crimes against the realm free you from any promise you have made to them.
Grand Maester Pycelle in 2x10
What would qualify as the Starks revealing their falseness in season 8? That they hid a certain Targaryen prince? Jon is a false Stark bastard? Or political Jon? Whatever it is, afterwards, a certain pledge would be broken.
Which crimes against the realm would free him from his promises? Jon’s crime because he lied to D/ny or D/ny’s crimes to the realm?
I also made a theory that Sansa will be pregnant and gave birth to Jon’s bastard. One of the past scene that supports it is by using a whore (Ros) as Sansa’s foreshadowing character and that as of now, Cersei is calling Sansa a murderous whore. Now please check out a few interesting dialogues in this episode.
(Traitor father scene)
(then the scene where Jon killed Qhorin while Qhorin said his Night’s Watch vows)
You look like a baby with a rattle.
Or was it your whore mother?
Time to meet the King-beyond-the-Wall
A baby, traitor father, whore mother, broken vows, King.
I can only speculate that the story would be: Jon and Sansa can’t hold back their feelings anymore and consummate their love. Sansa kidnapped by Cersei, found out that she’s pregnant and give birth to a bastard boy. Jon will break his pledge with D/any, marries Sansa and become a King. In between those there will be a lot of disasters (don’t ask me what).
Yes I think they will have a bastard baby first before they get married. Baby first before marrying. That’s the sequence of foreshadowing in this episode, and it’s also the sequence of foreshadowing from 4x05 (Bran is going to be Uncle Bran, and Sansa to marry a brother turn cousin). My theory is based on the thinking that Jon and Sansa’s bastard child actually would help strengthen Jon’s claim to the throne and this becomes a threat to D/ny’s claim. Initially with the Renly parallel, I thought D/ny will be pregnant at first and therefore Jon is forced to marry her. I thought that was equal with getting stabbed in the back with a shadow baby like how Renly died. But now I think D/ny is the one getting stabbed in the back with a shadow baby which is Jon and Sansa’s bastard child. In the other triangle couple, Cersei never let Robert put his seed in her so all her children are Jaime’s and Renly couldn’t bring himself to have sex at all with Margaery, and D/ny is barren.
I think that all the talk about D/ny can’t have children is not a j0nerys baby foreshadowing or even a red herring (or at least I hope so...I could be wrong). I think that it is what it is, which is to highlight that she really can’t have children and will have an issue with succession. Jon’s baby that comes from a union with a highborn Lady with a strong family background will challenge her claim even more. I have a theory of what will happen but that’s for another post.
“In #GameofThrones S2 E10, #Daenerys has a vision of King's Landing in ashes with snow on the Iron Throne https://t.co/Vsxb3jCAaW”
Next time they tell you Daenerys going full Queen of the Ashes is “bad writing”, show them this.
She was always meant to burn alive thousands of innocents she’s supposed to protect. She was always meant to destroy the very heart of the Seven Kingdoms. She was always meant to be the greatest villain in the show.
