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Alder, Alder, Alder!

How do you feel knowing that in a couple more hours, we will get to hear Apollo sing in Epic the Wisdom Saga???? And we're gonna see his god design/animatic of his rap battle with Athena too!!!!

I've been waiting sooooo long to her his voice that I'm a bit shaking right now XDDDDD

I AM SO EXCITED THAT’S WHAT I’M FEELING : D

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Greetings, my dear Mads.

Would you be ever so generous and talk about your headcanons about Menelaus & Polites' relationship with Odysseus?

*cracks knuckles*

I think I should preface this and say that I'm ace/demisexual and that affects...everything. Both of these relationships are basically very deep connections/friendships that help keep them sane. Forehead kisses, snuggles, just affectionate. (which I have Odysseus VERY strange with. He's very hot and cold. He's extremely affectionate with his family but Menelaus and Polites' are basically the only two whom Odysseus will not glare at if they put their hand on Odysseus' shoulder)

I'll do Odysseus and Polites first as they're shorter.

Mostly takes place during the Odyssey. And these two are friends. During the year at Circe's...yeah, Odysseus cries on Polites' shoulder multiple times. I have a plan for Circe's thing but that's darker and... YEAH. 🥺 Someday I will write it but yeah. Odysseus is NOT well. Nightmares...other thingsksdljf ds

I have many thoughts on the relationship that Odysseus and Menelaus have. I really love having vulnerable human moments and seeing the potential of Odysseus and Menelaus? GOLD MINE!

I think it's because they're kind of opposites yet UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. Odysseus is a chatterbox and Menelaus is a man of few words. Menelaus is very honorable most of the time while Odysseus is...Odysseus. Odysseus tells stories while Menelaus gets straight to the point. They've been friends for a long time (They literally are each other's wingmen for my fics during the suitors of Helen. And Odysseus loves Menelaus' hugs.)

Odysseus is kind of a dick to EVERYONE during the Trojan war and that is a lot of the "I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE!!! I WANT TO GO HOME!! I MISS MY WIFE AND SON!!!" so he's an ass.

But with Menelaus? He can't be mad. BECAUSE THEY BOTH GET IT. They miss their wives. They miss their kids. And Odysseus is just like, "I can't be mad at you...I know that if it had been Penelope kidnapped, I would have done the same...Wanna go cry together?🥺"

They oftentimes will just...visit each other for a good cry. Holding each other and letting the other ramble about whatever they need. Resting foreheads together. Doing each other's hair. Simply CHILLING! THEY UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE OPPOSITES 😭

Also I have this stupid image in my head that's like a crackfic

Rando: "Hey, How come Odysseus has never stolen from you/stabbed you/insulted you/set your stuff on fire?" Menelaus: "Odysseus? Him?! No! He's a trickster, yes. But he's not a bad man! I'd trust him with my life!" Odysseus: "Yeah! I'm such a fucking sweetheart!" *Someone's tent bursts into flames behind him, from Olive Oil Odysseus purposely set up to light shit on fire*

Idk if I'll get the chance to write this fic idea but I want it to be after Odysseus steals the Palladium. He's alone with Menelaus and "Hey...I saw Helen...She still loves you and she misses you... She says she's sorry."

And Poor Menelaus just breaks. He wants to know everything that happened. And Odysseus answers. Odysseus just holds him while he cries. Probably starts tearing up himself. And just fall asleep together. This has happened multiple times. They can be VULNERABLE with each other!!! Menelaus is one of the few men Odysseus wouldn't steal from or kill in his sleep! Plus it's canon that Menelaus gives the best hugs (I asked Homer. He told me. shush!)

Just....??? AAAAAAAAAAAA

I LOVE THEM!!!! THey are so soft while still being warriors and kings because they're mortal MEN. Who have so many feelings inside them both (especially during Trojan war) I LOVE IT!!!1ksldjf

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Hiiiiiii I just saw the character ask thing :))))

Can you tell me about your NOTP, random headcanon and unpopular opinion about Helen of Sparta?

Thank you so much!!!

I'll save the one that'll get me crucified last! 👍

Random headcanon: Both Odysseus and Penelope were given a "photographic memory" by Athena. When Athena had "forsaken" Odysseus it was taken away. Makes it nice because a lot of the more fucked up parts of the Odyssey are a bit more "fuzzy" for him. And he hates feeling "so out of sorts". He gets it back though.

Also Athena technically took Penelope under her "wing" like, one month before Odysseus.

Unpopular Helen Opinion: In MY FICS, (It's okay if you don't agree!) She is built like Rose Quartz from Steven Universe. She doesn't have a perfect "hourglass figure". She's got some pudge on her tummy. Girl is TALL (Demigod) and CHUBBY. One of the important components of Helen and Menelaus' relationship is that they are both strong enough to lift each other. Also she's the most beautiful woman in the world and chubby women are hot af lskdjf She also SUCKS at singing. She's good at wrestling and spear work. (Sparta. I also love athletic women. Plenty of chubby women are also athletic af. If you think otherwise, literally look up women's Olympic sports participants.)

Homies, know that my NOTP can be YOUR OTP and that's okay! We can still love each other and be friends! Ignore the rest if you just don't want to see that, but know that while it kind of will be in my fics, it's probably not in the way you want it to be.

Please don't hate me and know I don't hate you or think I'm "correct"!

It's OdyDio.

These are the reasons why so avoid them if you don't want to read that! :'D This is the only time I will ever be on the "Odysseus hate train" because he's such an asshole to Diomedes.

I feel so bad about it. 😭 I'm a freak who likes Odysseus/Menelaus (Big BROTP) I think it's because Odysseus is just... SO MEAN to Diomedes. And when he's not mean, he's just neutral. There is not really any "Diomedes, you're the best guy!". Especially when have Sthenelus and Diomedes saying I love you to each other To ME, they are like co-workers who work GREAT together on the battlefield and on missions, but never do anything outside of that.

When Diomedes asks for help, Odysseus sprints away from battle. When Diomedes compliments him before the night raid, Odysseus literally is like "Dude, you're not the only person who knows I'm good at stealing. Let's go."

Odysseus, that long-suffering, godlike man, replied: “Son of Tydeus, don’t over-praise me, or censure me. You’re speaking to the Argives,                           who know everything about me. Let’s go. Night is passing quickly. Dawn approaches. The stars have shifted forward. Most of the night                   has passed, two thirds of it, with one third left.”

(Ian Johnston, Book 10)

Odysseus is an asshole but he's still so mean to Diomedes! 😭 ESPECIALLY WHEN DIOMEDES IS SO FUCKING NICE TO ODYSSEUS!!! I know that's what probably makes them so compelling to so many lovely folks but I love fluff BECAUSE I'm so tired of toxic relationships irl. I don't...I don't see how I can make OdyDio fluffy 😥 With OdyDio, I feel like I'm watching my bestie (Diomedes) get back with their toxic ex who mistreats them (Odysseus). Diomedes is actually quite polite to the others. Even when Agamemnon scolds him, he tells Sthenelus to think nothing of it. He compliments Odysseus! He listens to the gods when they tell him "Hey stop fighting!" and listens to Athena! Like he's violent and a killing machine but he's respectful! He's a traumatized, respectful, killing machine! He bitches at Paris but everyone has done that! That's something everyone partakes in /j

It bothers me even more because when Odysseus is with Penelope, he's so wonderful and loving? And that the Odyssey, literally Odysseus' story/Epic, doesn't even really mention Diomedes? That goes to show how little Diomedes means to Odysseus.

And since Odysseus runs away from Diomedes when he asks for help, it boggles my mind that books earlier, he goes into a rage when his friend gets killed!

[...]but hit Leucus, a brave companion of Odysseus, in the groin,                                           as he was dragging Simoeisius away. His hands let go. He fell down on the corpse. Enraged at Leucus’ slaughter, Odysseus strode up, through the front ranks, armed in gleaming bronze. Going in close, he took his stand. Looking round, he hurled his glittering spear. As he threw, Trojans moved back, but the spear found a mark. It hit Democoön, Priam’s bastard son, who had come from Abydos, where he bred horses for their speed.                                    Angry for his friend, Odysseus speared him in the temple.

(Ian Johnston, Book 4)

Odysseus, you prick!!! You go on a rampage when your buddy gets killed but sprint away when your STILL ALIVE BUDDY asks you for help?! ASSHOLE

They ARE kind of friends/frenemies during the end of the war but it's a weird thing where Diomedes cares about Odysseus but Odysseus tolerates him. Like he left him to die. I love Odysseus. He's my special little guy but he treats Diomedes, another special little guy, like shit 😞

They also have a fairly large agegap, (Odysseus being one of the older kings while Diomedes is the youngest. If you bring up pederasty, you will be smited.) and have very little in common other than them both being Athena's pets. Odysseus is a fucked up lil warrior trickster who loves his wife and child more than life itself while Diomedes is a young child soldier boy who is incredibly duty bound and war is where he feels most comfortable.

Also just...Most of anything about OdyDio (fanart/fanfic/etc.) it's of them fighting or bickering or betraying each other or being very sexual. Even OdyPenDio STILL feels very "OdyDio... + Penelope in the footnotes". I already plan to write Odysseus (and Penelope) as Aspec CODED and so I...just really don't care for that??? There's barely ANYTHING of them being soft. BECAUSE THEM TWO TOGETHER just aren't soft... I personally don't like couples that are mean to each other 😭 (I'm not even including the whole "betrayal with the Pallidium" because it makes me sad to think about. I don't consider it canon.)

Menelaus though?

I have plans 😌 These two bring me comfort and are a special brotp

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Get ready to get booped my fwiend >:333

ME WHEN I FUCKING BOOP YOU

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Hello, Alder. It is time for your interrogation truth or dare response :)

Describe your latest WIP with five emojis.

Share some personal lore you never posted about before.

Share some personal wisdom or a life hack you swear on.

Share something that has been on your heart and mind lately. 

What will make you click away from a fanfiction immediately?

OH WOW OKAY HELLO XD

🛼 ⇢ describe your latest wip with five emojis

hmmm...⚡💨🏹😟🐺

that makes sense! :D

🧃 ⇢ share some personal lore you never posted about before

uhhh have i mentioned that my zodiac sun and moon signs are contradictory? :3 Aries is my Sun sign and Capricorn is my Moon sign. apparently in the astrology world that's an odd combination since Aries and Capricorn tend to clash lmao

i actually know my natal chart, looked it up for shits and gigs a week or so ago

got it from astrologycafe in case anybody wants to give theirs a look! i was such an astronomy nerd in middle school (no joke during our family 4th of July party i talked my older cousin's ear off about astronomy. he sat there and said "I'm learning more about astronomy from my baby cousin than I do from school." he was a sophomore when i was in 6th grade haha sadly haven't seen him for quite some time rip) so OF COURSE i peeked into astrology for a bit just to see what it was lol I don't put much stake into astrology but it's pretty fun and amazing when it does get something right!

oh yeah and ofc that was the subtle gateway in greek mythology obsession. amazing how my interest, no matter how small, was always there when it came to mythology <3

🦷 ⇢ share some personal wisdom or a life hack you swear on

hmm...stay connected with the people you want to be around. even when it's difficult. Lolling and I haven't been able to do our monthly hang outs because adulthood is making us busy~ BUT we're still working our way around it all in order to just. you know, hang out! even if you only have that one (1) friend (like me), stay flexible about it ^-^

🦋 ⇢ share something that has been on your heart and mind lately 

graduation/my internship heh. I graduate on May 16th and my internship is likely to begin a little before that, towards the end of May, or in June. I'm still waiting for the announcement on whether or not I got the internship from the firm I had a couple interviews at. supposed to get it this week, and it's thursday, so hopefully it'll be soon!

and I answered the last one a couple posts ago!! :D

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Hiiii! It's time for me to ask you about the Ithacan family :333

3. Trick question: Least favorite canon thing about Penelope?

14. Assign a fashion aesthetic to Telemachus.

18. A character Odysseus has a relationship with in canon that you admire? (it's easy to say his family but surely there are other people who don't hate him??)

sjadlkf sTHANK YOU SO MUCHH!!! ❤

3.) Ohoho, you asked a question that hit a bullseye >:)

Everything about Penelope is my favorite BUT while I love Athena, I REALLY HATE THAT ATHENA'S GO TO METHOD TO HELP PENELOPE OUT IS TO JUST KNOCK HER OUT >:( I was getting mad after a while because WHY?! Yes, if she's crying or she needs to relax then sure. I mean I LOVE how Athena appears to her as her sister to calm her down... BUT WHY IS THAT YOUR SOLUTION EVERYTIME?!!! klsfj lksjfd

My interpretation is that that's just the "Narrator's POV" as I know the Odyssey keeps Penelope "mysterious" on purpose (she's that cunning 🥹). So the narrator just THINKS "She's probably sleeping" when actually she's scuttling around the palace doing shit of her own >:D. kind of secret passage style (except not. I love writing Penelope as the lovely half-naiad she is (sharp teeth, breathes underwater, slightly pointed ears, catches fish with her mouth. HOT WIFE SHIT 🤤) so it's more like there are a lot of fountains/small canals/waterways in the palace that she makes use of as Odysseus built it with that in mind, knowing how much she loved that in Sparta (he really wanted her to be at home in Ithaca since it's so different 😭)

14.) I think he'd be the type to want mostly casual clothing and I headcanon him as someone who lowkey hates the feeling of jewelry. Also, while he's basically only a QUARTER Nymph, he has SOME naiad traits (Basically he's kind of like Her but it might be hard to notice at first. his ears are not as pointed for example.) so he ALSO likes clothing he can just jump in the water in and not have too much "drag" (When Odysseus comes back with a fear of water, it's very nice to have a water wife and son who can help you through it 🥹)

Modern day? This boy has little to no fashion sense. Are you kidding me? He's all over the place. Maybe he gets his fashion act together but as a teenager? NO! Cringey boy (affectionate.) but he's pretty so he makes it work!

18.) I'm really weird in that I really love the trio of Odysseus, Menelaus, and Agamemnon. I actually love it more than his friendship with Diomedes they have Spartan wives, and love their kids. and just?? idk. I really love the possibilities to explore. Plus I really really love Older brother Agamemnon. During the Suitors of Helen, Odysseus was panicking about "falling in love" with Penelope and "WHAT DO I DO?! Is it normal to feel like you're going to throw up but like, in a good way?!" as let's be honest, this woman knocked him on his ass in under 10 minutes and after that he was LOVESICK. And Agamemnon is being supportive and helpful but also laughing behind his hand because "the smartest man alive is also the stupidest"

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I don't know if you have talked about him yet but...

Can we get some headcanons Argos (Odysseus' dog)?

YEAH!!! Thank you for the ask!!!

So, I have a big pup so I base a lot of what he does on things she does. Like the "sneezing noise" dogs do when they play and how she'll often roll around on the couch with her belly up because she wants to play.

And ALSO as someone who has a lot of family members who hunt with dogs, most dogs even when they have "jobs" have time when they're "off duty" and can play! :D I plan for that to be the same for Argos and it's why Argos is one of the best pups he has had. How he's a fun dog to play with and have as a companion but still knows "when he's working". As I also plan for him to also be a "guard dog" for Telemachus. As Argos is INSANELY probably near 21 in my fics, as a puppy will NOT be hunting yet xD and with how they say he was such a GOOD hunting dog, he's had some experience with hunting!

Does this pup ever love Telemachus. You know those videos and things where there are dogs that just look at babies and follow them and are super protective? That's Argos with Telemachus. Your son? You mean OUR son.

I really hate the idea of Penelope and Telemachus just fucking ABANDONING him, as a pet owner myself, if I knew my critter got neglected that badly I don't think I could forgive the people who did that. So I plan that while Penelope and Telemachus tried really hard to take care of him, during the suitors it was hard to sneak away. Being naiad-born, they'd both try to sneak around with the canals that Odysseus had built in the castle in the first place, but it ESPECIALLY got bad when the suitors found out that she'd been lying about the shroud. And with Telemachus being away...

Dogs, especially old ones, can get bad really really quick :')

The reason he stayed alive so long was also because before Odysseus left, he left him as a "guardian" over his family. Odysseus was finally able to "release him from his duty" when he got back.

"You've done your job well, beyond well. Please, go. You're free now, you can have peace now." sorta thing :')

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Okay I've been thinking....

What do you think the cousin duo Telemachus and Hermione will be like?

lkdjf HELL YEAH!! (Thanks for the ask!! :D )

Hermione IS a bit older but I do love the thought of these two being close in that "older cousin way" you know? I mean I see Hermione as a pretty rambunctious kid, I don't think Telemachus is as much?? he's a shit in the Odyssey but also...he's getting BULLIED every day and is scared for his and his mom's safety and is grieving a father he never got to know himself. He's having a rough go of it. And he's such a sweetie when visiting Pylos and Sparta!!! I can see him almost being nicer than his parents in a way??? But still capable of being a sneaky shit >:D (which is something Hermione would def be like "hehe, you go lil cuz" )