lately I've been seeing this idea pop up in the manosphere
being a real man means living a life of suffering but disregarding your negative feelings in order to achieve some goal
here it is in Louis Theroux's documentary:
here it is again in this Andrew Tate's crash out, in which he says that "masculine consciousness is constant anxiety and pain"
and "women sleep well at night! this is for girls! men don't!"
and I also heard it in an interview of Clavicular where he essentially says that he hates what he does every day, but that wanting to do what you feel like is "immature" (aka childlike aka feminine)
obviously the idea that women sleep well at night and cruise through their stressless and painless existence like carefree children is objectively fucking demented
but when you listen to those guys, you realize that it's simply not about facts, about who really has it harder in society, men or women
it's about identity: in order to be a real man, they have to interpret their life as a life of struggle, no matter what the facts are, or how self-inflicted those supposed struggles are
no matter what they live through, they will bend their interpretation of events to fit their struggle narrative, in order to perform masculinity
interestingly they do acknowledge that they hate their life, that it's sad and hard
they are aware of their negative feelings, but being a real man means dissociating from them, not listening to them, fighting them
so is it any wonder that they behave like sociopaths towards other people, they disregard others' negative feelings because they disregard their own
men who objectify themselves, who dissociate so much from their feelings that they turn themselves into objects to be controlled, will be rapists and scammers who treat others like objects to be controlled
