#hcs4 rose

[lutraviolet]

hands of fate 🌊🌙🔥🌹

[eevanta]

as someone obsessed with phils hardcore lore, this stream is quite literally a dream come true for me. the fact that not only were we right in assuming the first letter was from rose, the flower goddess, we also were right in assuming that the ender king was the one sending the second letter.

for ease of comprehension, everytime i use qphil, i will also be talking about hcphil!

i also find it fascinating that this suggests the ender king is alive. for those unaware, in the current time of phils hardcore world, the ender king has been defeated. you may be familiar with the endlantis project; the flooded end realm phil made. the whole reason endlantis exists is because it was how the ender king was defeated, the other 5 deities in the world redirected his attempt to merge all 3 realms together to an overworld ocean.

so the fact is seems the ender king is alive, and not only is alive, he is ACTIVELY looking to help qphil? we know the ender king is selfish and only does things with a motive to gain power, so, is the ender king looking to take over quesadilla island?

but even then, there holes in that theory, because the ender king isnt the only one to reach out from the hc deities. rose has too. albeit a lot kinder and gentler in making him realise his 'dreams' weren't dreams, she still reached out. so is the pattern to continue? is the blaze empress going to reach out? is the ocean overlord going to? it strangely seems as though the deities are united in this, even if the ender king has ulterior motives to do so.

its going to be really interesting to see how they incorporate the hardcore lore, its already been interesting seeing how the admin writing the letters interprets their personalities. i hope the ocean overlords letter is like 'hiya m8, sorry for this, sure this is baffling. but uhh i wanna help u man'

its also going to be interesting to see how they handle the black concrete. the qsmp uses black concrete as a way to represent the shadow virus, but hcs4 uses it to depict void; hence the nethervoid. we've already seen a difference in how it's affected qphil versus, say, qforever

anyways this is my roman empire i think

[theonetruecrowking]

“And, what are you Philza?”

Missa had heard from his own son that a deity Name Rose has been watching over them, He then hears from Phil that he was reached out to another God before. That sparks the question "what are you?"

Missa rocked his legs back and forth as he sat on the edge of the tree house, with an anxious face he stared down at the Structure below him.

A kizbo of sorts surrounded by pilers, literal with roses. Mainly he focused on the floating chest in the center, that aperrantly served as a communication route.

He hadn't spoken to the deity yet, he was terrified of accidental offending her, he much rather thought his words out before Putting anything in the chest.

He would soon take note of Phil's approaching footsteps, though he wouldn't turn to meet him; Phil soon seated himself next to Missa, observing the worry look on his partner's face.

"So, this is probably a lot right now." Phil started, "If you have any questions I'd be more than happy to assist!"

Missa keep his gaze on the chest, in regards to questions he had many; he honestly wasn't even sure where to start but feared his silence would worry Phil.

Thus upon hearing Phil let out an patience sigh, he felt compelled to say something. "Who.. Who is she?" He finally asked

"Right, I'm going to simplify this for you." Phill began

"ok?"

"Rose is my Spawn entity, I was reincarnated into that world after I died in my previous one." He leaned forward clasping his hands as he too stared down at the chest. "And I wasn't sure if it was real to be honest; I thought those spaces in-between were just dreams, but her and the um end king found me so.."

"And the End king is another deity?"

"Not a good one."

"oh?!" Phil would regret mention the End kings name, once he noticed the fear in his partners voice.

"But you don't have to worry about that," he clearifided, "Rose will protect us."

"Ok.. and what did you mean by in-between spaces?"

"in-between worlds..the..where I..where Rose spawned me, they were different layers that lead between different worlds and.. how do I break this down.."

Missa finally looked up at Phil, he'd observed him seemingly rock his brain for a quick explanation. Eventually Phil pulled his backpack closer and ramaished through it, he then pulled out a tres leches cake.

"Ok, so." He pointed to the top of the cake, "imagine this is where I spawned, even though I exist up here I can still go," he moved his finger back and forth between the other layers, "between the other layers through void rips and the entities they can go wherever they want basically."

"Mm si.." Missa agreed, "and how did you get there?"

"Missa, Rose spawned me in."

Missa regret his choice in words once he picked up on the slight annoyance in Phil's tone, he didn't mean to make him repeat himself, it was just difficult to find the right words.

"I mean, why, for what reason did Rose put you there?"

"oh," he relaxed his muscle, "well I died in my old world, I guess she wanted to give me a second chance, it wasn't the first time something like that happen." Phil broke of a layer of the tres leches cake then hand it off to Missa, whom appected it grateful.

Phil tilled his head as he thought briefly to himself, "that's not that strange right? We respawn here."

"yes but, you come back as yourself in the same world you died in and they're circumstances where you just won't come back." Missa explained.

He then broke a piece of the cake which he popped in his mouth, "Sólo estoy tratando de entender las reglas". He explained with a full mouth.

Phil shurgged his shoulders, then processed to pick at the remainder of the cake. "It's pretty much the same, just over different worlds."

"you don't even have any childhood memories, Cellbit Y bagi Crecieron en esta isla, ¿Qué pasa contigo?"

"I don't really have any childhood memories." Phil explain, his eyes slowly swing to the opposite direction, it was clear he was uncomfortable with the direction of the questions.

Missa had half a mind to drop the conversation all together, but as much as he loved his husband he knew nothing of him, where he came from, why he came here; If he was allowing questions this would be the best time to ask right?

"Philza, please take no offense to the question I'm going to ask." Missa requested

Phil released a nervous chuckle, "um..ok?"

"What excalty are you?"

"What do you mean..?" He adjusted his position to sit upright, "I'm a bird mate, birdman, crow Father whatever those fuckers." He pointed to the crows seated in the branches about him. "Call me."

Missa stared at the crows briefly before turning his attention back to Phil; annoyance now painted Phil face, yup he was certainly sleeping in the petting zoo this time. "I think what I meant to ask was, Where did you originally come from?"

Phil's face went through a sequences of emotions, from annoyance to curiosity, then to confusion and horror as he became awear of one painful fact.

"You don't have to answer, don't worry about it. Lo siento, fue una pregunta extraña."

"I don't know..." Phil finally answered, "I've just always existed, I've never thought about it.."

'Ay dios mío, I married a God', Missa thought to himself as he processed Phil statement, of course Phil called it reincarnation but to have no memory of a childhood and just existed in different times, then he was more akin to a God than someone who just happened to remember his past lives.

A rather tragic God at that, if he couldn't remember his origins, but no normal being just exist without any memory of where they came from.

"is that unusual?" Phil inquired

"Ah, I just wanted to know." Missa successful dodge the question, "we're married and I don't know anything about you, it's not fair you know haha.."

Phil stared at his partner, it was true he knew very little of him and even after Missa had told him so much about himself, why he frequently went on journeys who he was before that.

Yet the only explaination Phil had for himself was, he always existed; he couldn't help but feel awful for his unsatisfactory answer. He leaned forward letting he arms rest in his lap, he himself then glared at the floating chest below them.

"You should talk to Rose, I want you to meet her." Phil attempted to change the subject.

"ha, I'm really worried I'm gonna offend her." Missa admitted, he couldn't help but feel this was like meeting the parents, and if that's true then he really didn't want to fuck up.

"Nah mate, Rose is really hard to offend, she'll love you.. I'm sure of it." Phil ended with a sad smile.

They sat there a little longer, feeling the cool wind as well as Indulging on the sweet smell of roses; perhaps he'd ask Rose for advice on how to communicate better with his husband.

[skellyfrogs]

my favorite lesbians <33

[theonetruecrowking]

My QSMP Headcannons vs in game Canon

Feel free to correct me if I get the Canon wrong.

•Tallulah uses hearing aids-this one is actually cannon but people tend to leave it out in art.

•philza uses a walking cane after purgatory- while Phil stated multiple times that the condition of his wings gave him poor balance, even though his wings are somewhat better I imagine the constant back and forth for someone who was never really good a balancing paired with the weight of his new wings probably make it very difficult to stay balance while walking.

•Fit, Tubbo lost limbs in purgatory- correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Tubbo didn't lose a lib in Canon, and I'm also not sure if the texture of Fit new skin is meant to be read as a prosthetic but I like the idea.

•Richardslyson has a prosthetic leg- this isn't excalty clear whether or not it's canon, we know his model in game has a leg that doesn't connected to his shell but it also important to note that Phil adjusted Richards statue to reflect a prosthetic leg, so you could technically consider it canon.

•Phil is demi-romantic- I know Phil never gave a clear sexual orientation to his in game character, but watching them interact with other love interest he gives the vibe of a demi-romantic person.

•Fit and Phil are divorced on really good terms- the kind were you realize your better as friends, which would also play a part in Phil discovering his is demi-romantic. Obviously in canon they was no clear past relationships established between them.

•Bolas actually does see Phil as a father figured- obviously Cellbit calmed he was joking when he called Phil dad, however Baghera still seems to call him that. I also really just want Cellbit to have a good father figure lmao.

•Rose is Phil's mother- I could go into detail of how the goddess of life birth the angle of death, but I equate it to her being his mother as God is your father but like she's his mother directly. She made him, she raised him, she'll protect him like her like depends on it.

In canon Rose just seems to be the Spawn entity but I like to imagine her as his Spawn entity. That would mean that she spawned him into existence in the hardcore world.

•the federation isn't evil, just misunderstood- I'm not saying they are good, just more morally grey. They do horrible experiment and treat the residents curly in our eyes, but in their eyes this is normal.

They do things thinking the residents don't know any better and therefore their complains are invalid, quite like a narcissist parent.

•the eggs can shape shift- I love the idea of the eggs taking on physical traits of the person (s) that they feel loved by slowly the more fond they become of them.

So the original Chayanne would stay an egg for the first two days then shock his parents by appearing as a little boy with blond hair.

When badly injured they go back to egg form.

•Charlie is in fact part slime and that's how he shape shifted into gegg- technically the qsmp info channel confirmed this in the qsmp full story videos

•Jaiden was a part of project blue bird- again not confirm, but I really like the idea that she was raised by Cucuchroo and that's why she naturally acts kinder to him (but she doesn't remember)

•the island has a respawn entity- following the concept of Rose aiding Phil's spawn, I like to imagine the whole island has a entity that revives players after death, and thus respawning in other demension ie the nether, takes much longer as that a different entity all together.

•the radiation of the blast from purgatory turned Foolish into a shark human hybrid, I mean technically canon since has the speed fins now.

•Forever has a survivor complex- this is up to interpretation of whether or not it's canon but I perceive Forever's behaviour as someone who feels he had to save everyone; He is the president after all.

•Forever likely still has feelings for Phil- or better yet the feelings have developed into genuine love as opposed to obsession, but from observing Missa learnt the best way to love Phil is to respect his wishes.

•Lovejoy is canon in the qsmp and is sponsored by the federation hence why Wilbur often leaves for tours. I'm actually not sure if this is canon or not, I recall Phil joking about it but I don't know if that's the Canon explanation as to how he's allowed to leave the island.

•Missa like Wilbur is sent on sponsored trips by the federation; in which he gather information on other islands, the resources of said island and whether or not their populated

•The codes are corrupted dead eggs- I'm mostly getting this theory from the codes disguising themselves as eggs and codaflipa, but I really like the idea that the codes are eggs that have died in the past with past residents and are restless.

A good backing for this is how Sofia found the eggs to be non organic, which makes me think that in a way they are computer programming, an sentient artificial life.

That does however bring the lore question of how their ghost can return, I think codes are a store of ghost form for them, with the code of their existence being shattered after a while they degraded to code monsters.

This would explain why they kill eggs (they want more company) and how they're able to disguised as them. Codaflipa can only return a few times because it's difficult to keep that form with shattered codes.

Now it is hinted at that the eggs are artificial, Sofia and the details of A1 being hints at that, but there is no Canon confirmation of such to my knowledge

I also know that Etoiles seem to believe the code killed eggs because they were being controlled by the federation, but I don't believe that seeing as the federation went out of their way to get the eggs back.

[theonetruecrowking]

The Healing Process

Chapter 11

Pillow Talk

Phil gently pulled the mug of tea closer to himself as he sat around the table in silence, once again he had been left to his lonesome; though it hardly matter since he could clearly hear the others in the room over.

Forever had thrown an large blanket on him ages ago, during this time Cellbit also gave him a large mug of tea, it seemed to pyshical pain him to do so.

He rather not think on the recent information dug up in his head, he didn't want to focus on the feeling of his heart stopping, or the guilt that hung over his head.

He rather not but that wasn't an option, reliving the memory, a memory he Intented to forget was just as traumatizing as experiencing it the first time.

He'd have a few words for Rose if she was still alive, now that he was a Father himself he couldn't help but be judgmental. He'd ask her why she felt it fit to frequently abandon a child, where she got the nerves to Judge his diet like that.

He would ask her why she had forsaken him, if his actions were truly unforgivable.. he'd tell her he's sorry.

He'd be thrown out of his thoughts from Cellbit's verbal expression of shock in the next room, slightly he jumped at the sudden increase in the level of his voice.

Phil release a sigh as he lossen his shoulder, then did his best to listen to the conversation though the walls.

"And you're sure it killed him?" Cellbit seemed to be inquiring about the memories he was force to relive, right, he was the one who wanted him to do it in the first place.

"Cellbit I'm telling you, I felt it...he died." Forever clarify

Phil's expression shifted to exhaustion as he sloughed in the chair. He sipped his tea with tired eyes, he wanted nothing more than to sleep for at least 5 days but it seemed cruel to leave his friends with the Ender king for that long.

"Maybe he used a totem?" Cellbit debated

"When you use a totem, you feel like a pop in your chest.. " Forever recalled for his own experience. "I didn't feel that.."

"Do you know where he respawned?" Cellbit inquired

"I don't..I don't think he did..not in the moment at least." Forever continued, "I'm not sure to be fair..he woke up so quickly."

"Hm..A Demi-God..." Phil truly couldn't keep his eyes open anymore, if he could just rest for a few seconds then he wouldn't have to worry about his friends facing the consequences.

It's he just allowed himself to sleep for for few minutes, or maybe an hour.. just five hours.. surely they'd be fine.

Finally giving into the desire to doze off, melting in the warmth of the blanket. His ears rang from silence as the feeling of his lung filling with water forced him awake and back into reality.

Phil cough up a fit as he put the mug aside, then rest his head in the palm of his hands.

His head was spinning enough as it was, it didn't help how exhausted he was yet simoustainly so stressed. He was afraid of having nightmares, terrified of lossing control of his body.

Soon enough the duo enter the room, in semi whisper before they eventually acknowledge Philza. Cellbit sit across from Phil immediately noticing majority of the tea was gone, it didn't seem they left Phil that long.

"How are you feeling?" Cellbit began

"Exhausted.." Phil respond

"Oh I can imagine, that must had been incrible difficult.. I'm sorry please know that I appreciate you doing this."

Phil found himself experiencing a phenomenal he hadn't in ages, something he once threw away, something he said he was above.

He wanted someone to pity him, not in the casual way of saying they were sorry that happened, but truly pity him.

He wanted them to ask if he was ok then to double down on it, he wanted them to constantly reassured him, he want the hand on his shoulder treatment, he wanted, nay needed to hear 'it's not your fault'

He wasn't gonna get that, he knew that. It was his own fault in the end, dont treat me like a pity case, mate.' Well now he truly was.

Almost as if Forever had read his mind he rested a hand on Phil's shoulder, instantly gaining his attention. "Cellbit, go easy on him, huh? I'm sure he wants nothing more than to pass out right now."

"What, I wasn't grilling him!" Cellbit debated, "that can wait you know."

"Of course, so do Philza the favor of taking him home." Forever suggested

"No, I dont-" Phil cut himself off, realizing just how pathetic he sound. He knew the likelihood of the Ender king taunting him was at a higher in his own home, he didn't even want to consider the possibility of waking up to his kids gone.

The council wouldn't do that right, they wouldn't steal his kids as punishment for habering a criminal.. right?

The kid would be safer in N.I.N.H.O, he'd like to believe that at least, If a binary monster can't get them, then the council probably can't..right?

"Philza?" Forever threw him out his spiral of thoughts, "are you ok? You're zoning out."

Phil immediately glanced at Forever then back down as he bit his lip deep in thought, suddenly he sprung up from his chair then dragged Forever with him outside the room.

Once they were safely some distance Phil lose his grip as he meet Forever's eye contact. "Forever please don't take this the wrong way..but could I sleep with you tonight?"

Forever though deeply before he respond, truly wanting to make sure he wasn't taking Phil's question the wrong way. He supposed Phil meant it in the literal sense, but even that felt a bit intimate..

Though he supposed he could always put a pillow between them, it Phil truly only needed the company. "Sure, if you need to.. Erm, I shouldn't have said it like that, it's not a problem at all Philza."

Phil released a sigh, thankful Forever understood what he meant. "Thank you..um..if it's not too much trouble, could you help me move the kids to N.I.N.H.O?"

"Ah, right now?"

"I just don't like the idea of them being...the council could.."

"It's fine Philza, really it's not a brother at all." Phil hummed in respond, "do you want to talk about it?"

"Yes." Phil couldn't help how boldly he answered, he just didn't expect anyone to even ask, so when the offer came he didn't want to miss it. "After the kids are safe."

"Okay, let me talk to Cellbit and then I'll be right with you." Forever informed.

Forever kept to his words as he explained the situation to Cellbit, to which Cellbit accepted defeat. He briefly apologize, insist he truly meant Phil no harm them make his way home.

Of course Forever believed him, the problem was Cellbit had difficultly when it came to highen emotions and Phil was in a sensitive state.

He would eventually met back with Phil whom he assisted in moving the kids to the more secure hotel room though his base warp plate.

Forever would warn him that wasn't safe, and Phil agreed to such removing it entirely. That is only after they made sure to check every inch of the rooms.

Phil sighed in relief as he entered Forever's bed room, he removed his rob then stretch his wings as sat on the edge of the bed.

He then removed his hat and pull his hair tight loss, he ran his hand through his hair as a smoothing ritual.

Eventually Forever would observe him from the door way, brushing his teeth in the process. "Are you going to sleep in that?"

"If my wings don't have the freedom to stretch my back will be in knots." Phil explained.

"That's not what I meant, that top is too tight, it'll cut your circulation when you sleep."Forever further explain

Phil took the moment to process Forever's concerned, the lack of circulation probably explain why he woke up with tightness in his chest so often.

"Um, I have a virgin killer sweater in my closet, it's made for a thicker built so, it should be oversized on you."

"Oh.. thanks."

Forever hummed in respond as he returned to the bathroom. Phil pushed himself upright, using the wall as support as he made his way to the closet.

He finally pulled the sweater from the closet, his eyebrows raise as he noted the cloud shorts, slightly longer than they usually are.

Phil quickly changed into the outfit, immediately melting into the softness of the sweater, he then collapse into the comfort of the bed.

Eventually Forever would return with a hair dryer blowing through his hair, which he then playful turned towards Phil.

"Agh, stop my hair is already dry!" Phil plead pushing the hair dryer away.

"Why are you getting my pillows wet then?" Forever teased

"If you give me split ends I'll never Forgive you!" Phil rebutted

Forever accepted defeat and switch the dryer of which he then tost in the closet. He then noticed Phil had taken, most the pillows, which he seemed to be using for back support.

Forever sighed pulling extra pillows from the closet, including a body pillow to sperate them. Once he sent up the pillows he also joined Phil in lying on his back.

Though Phil seem to have his wings spread out from each side, the pillows seem to be keeping him slightly off the bed. It was almost as if he built a nest from the pillows, perhaps that was his intention.

"So.." Forever began, recalling Phil wanted to talk about things. "I have a sense you have complicated feelings with Rose."

".. She's not a bad mother.. she's not ." Phil started

"Sure." Forever respond beneath three layers of disbelief.

"She just gets busy, she is a God afterall."

"That didn't really help you feel less lonely though, did it?"

"I mean don't get me wrong, mate I'm very upset about her frequency to leave me, but I understand she didn't do that on purpose." Phil explained

"But that didn't make you feel any less like a burden."

Phil knitted his eyebrows at the accurate description, wonder just how much of that experience Forever was forced to take with him. "I guess if you could feel me dying, you probably felt my emotions at the time."

"Ah no, no I'm guessing." Forever backtracked

"Burden isn't the correct word, I don't think so."

"Oh?"

"Everyone was always doing something big and important, I wanted to do something just as big to prove I wasn't.."

"A burden?" Forever Interupped, Phil sighed as he sunk further into the pillows, realizing his emotions were truly on display.

"But Phil, you made an amazing garden and tons of birds, that's extermly important for the environment."

"Forever, don't patronize me."

"No I'm serious, richer oxygen for example. What you did mattered even if it didn't feel like it."

Phil breath deeply, it really felt like Forever was telling him specifically the things he needed to hear, he was thankful for that of course.

Yet it felt so wrong to accept he was worth anything more than he already perceived himself to be, even if he wanted to try.

"Hm..I didn't think the Ender King was going to be so close to you." Forever quickly changed the subject.

Phil chuckled at the though, "I'm a lot more relaxed to know he wasn't so much a threat and more of an annoying Uncle.. literally."

"It's good to know he has no truly bad intentions."Forever agreed "a lot less scary now."

"You don't think the council is actually going to come, do you?" Phil inquired

Forever thought for a moment before speaking, "if they do, we'll be prepared."

Phil observed the focus look in his eyes, and thus decided to trust Forever on such. Phil then closed his eyes, allowing himself doze off once again.

"Philza?" Forever called

Phil open his eyes, slightly annoyed. "Yeah?"

"You do realize it's not your fault right?" Forever inquired, immediately silencing all the thought Phil had bouncing in his head.

Soon he heard hushed crying come from Phil, almost as if purely on instincts Forever quickly sat upright, wiping the tears from Phil's face.

Phil however gasped his hand, allowing himself to melt in the touch. "If I just listened, none of that would have happened!" He mumbled into Forever's palm.

"Phil, you were six years old, missing your mother, it's understandable." Forever debated

"I would have seen her a lot longer if I had just waited." Phil rebutted

"Would you blame Chayanne if he was in your place?" Any further agurment Phil could think of was immediately silence the minute he put Chayanne in his place.

He wouldn't blame a kid, if he had disappeared on Chayanne so frequently of course he'd want to follow him.

"You're being too hard on yourself." Forever informed, "you were a child, you didn't know any better, you can't hold that over yourself.."

"Then why did she Forsake me, if it's not my fault then why?" Phil plead

"Perhaps she just hasn't found you yet," Forever suggested, "I'm sure she cares for you, maybe it you build a beacon or something."

"Hm.." Phil noted, "A rose colored beacon."

Forever once again attempt to whip Phil's tears, this time with both hands. "Phil, you need to rest."

Phil silently nod in the embrace, thought he found himself odly cold at abstinence of Forever's touch as he laid down.

He wouldn't overthink it, he was simply to tired to think anymore, so he allow himself to fully pass out.

The comfort of the pillows, paired with the crickets bearing face, all this with Forever's not so gentle snore.

These peaceful sounds gave Phil the first undisturbed sleep he's had since purgatory.

Forever would awake the next morning to find Phil had not only completely flip over but somehow ended on top of him, nuzzled into his chest.

Only one thought could enter Forever's head at the moment, meus Deus, Ele é fofo. He would briefly Pocket that thought to ponder how Phil had even manage to get that close, then realized the pillow he had put between them some how ended up at the foot of the bed.

He could help but wonder if that was Phil's doing, If he had intentionally move the pillow or if he was just that bad a sleeper.

Forever couldn't complain much, he wouldn't complain at all, instead he ran his fingers through Phil's hair, partly to check if he was awake.

"Philza, this isn't fair you know, your making me have all these thoughts about you again.." Forever commented, "I'm supposed to be over you.."

As Phil truly was asleep their was no response, Forever attention would be stolen however as he phone buzz.

He quickly pick his phone up to see Cucurucho had sent a mass email to him requesting his presents to an scheduled meeting.

Forever rolled his eyes and put the phone back down, instead he let himself fall back asleep amongst the comfort of Phil's body weight.

[theonetruecrowking]

One hell of a family tree

Healing Process,Grace, rose, hope, krytos and New member, visual for that chapter.

[theonetruecrowking]

OMG FINALLY...

I swear if I later look at this image to find a dot or something out of place I Will ended myself I swear this took dayssss!

The one time I put lots amount of detail in my works oh my god.

"Rose's sanctuary"