Most Icelanders I know have two first names, including myself, so I decided to give them both two first names, based on what sounded best with both names and what would also make sense for them.
Flóra because we'll, flower, and Fálki because the national animal of iceland is the gyrfalcon
I’ve been asked a few times about why I gave my hws Sweden the name Björn instead of Himaruya’s name, Berwald, and I figured I might as well put together my thoughts in a post. (While procrastinating the stuff I’m actually supposed to do, but hush.) x’) . For those who don’t know I should probably also preface this by mentioning:
- I’m Swedish.
- There’s nothing inheritable wrong with the name Berwald. It’s just not a Swedish name? Or even a name I had really heard of before I began to read and watch Hetalia.
- Those who wants to continue to use the name Berwald shouldn’t feel guilty for doing so. The name Berwald is just not a name I personally enjoy for the man who is supposed to be the personification of Sweden.
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So, Berwald.
I can maybe argue with myself that the name Berwald makes sense if Germania was the one who named him, seeing as the name is German and basically means “bear forest”. However, a lot of people headcanon some kind of “Ancient Scandia/North” to have existed anyway - so even though Sweden is a Germanic country, Germania probably wouldn’t have been the one who gave Sweden his “human” name.
It’s because of a similar reason I gave my Ladonia the name Karl rather than fandom popular “Erland”. Since Ladonia is a Swedish micronation it’s likely Sweden would have been the one who found and named Ladonia, and Karl is another old but common name in Sweden. The name Erland... I guess it’s technically an old Nordic name in orgin. It’s just not very wide-spread/known, and I personally don’t like the name very much.
Now: Even without an “Ancient Scandia/North” it’s more likely Norway and Denmark would have met Sweden long before Germania, no matter when you headcanon the Viking Trio to actually have “popped up”. Keep in mind Denmark used to have large parts of what now is south Sweden before the 1600s, so this means Denmark’s and Sweden’s border(s) with each other wouldn’t even be divided by the sea in the early days. Meanwhile Norway and Sweden literally have a gigantic long line of a border with each other, and I would argue (hws) Norway and Sweden likely were the first who met each other of the Nordics.
“So, why did you choose the name Björn?”
In part because it’s the Swedish word for “bear”, which serves as a nice reference to the name Himaruya originally choose for Sweden, but also because it’s a very old name which dates back to before the Vikings and is a name which is still common now in modern day. It has a few variations, and the Danish/Norwegian version of the name is literally just Bjørn, but it’s a name which has literally existed for hundreds of years.
In addition to this the name Björn is similar enough to Berwald that most Hetalia fans will recognize who the name is for, even when they personally use Berwald. The fact that Björn includes the Swedish letter Ö/ö probably helps as well.
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Some bonuses to the name I also enjoy are...
- It’s a short and easy name to remember even for Hetalia fans who are not Swedish.
- Sweden kind of act like a bear. Intimidating, big and shy - but can be dangerous if you corner him. Also protective of his children.
- Bear puns. (Bear hugs, “bear in mind”, ring bear(er), “bear with me”, “I’m embearassed” - etc). x)
- Honestly, somehow both a cute and strong name at the same time.
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Will probably realize I forgot to mention something the moment I’ve hit “send”, but since this post is already getting long this will have to do for now. x) . May or may not make another post about Sweden’s surname at some point. xD
Anyway, hope ye’ all enjoyed my thoughts about Sweden’s name! x)
Do you think Kari would be a nice name for nyonor?
Sort of?
Kari and Ola Nordmann is kind of like the American Joe and Jane Doe, a standard name for any Norwegian and often used in examples (on pictues of fake passports etc). Though it gives off very "old woman" vibes and has maybe gone out of style a bit in recent years, it's an ok name for Nyo!Norway I think
These are the names that I use. In no particular order. It’s alright if you don’t use the same names, but if you need a quick name recommendation, I’m so glad to help! Lol. Also, what is the whole thing around these characters and the name Louise? Please give some recommendations to me so I can change them because where are so many Louise/Luise/Luvise’s that I literally can’t even
America:
1P, Alfred F. Jones
2P, Allen F. Jones
NYO, Amelia E. Jones
NYO 2P, Emily F. Jones
Canada:
1P, Matthew Williams
2P, James Williams
NYO, Marguerite Williams
NYO 2P, Maddeline ‘Maddie’ Williams
England:
1P, Arthur Kirkland
2P, Oliver Kirkland
NYO, Alice Kirkland
NYO 2P, Olivia Elizabeth Kirkland
France:
1P, Francis Bonnefoy
2P, François Bonnefoy
NYO, Catherine Bonnefoy
NYO 2P, Francine Bonnefoy
Spain:
1P, Antonio Fernandez Carriedo
2P, Andres Fernandez Carriedo
NYO, Isabel Fernandez Carriedo
NYO 2P, Araceli Carriedo
Names Headcanons. Nation’s REAL names are their nation names. America actually IS America. Germany actually IS Germany, so they consider those to be their names. But they do use human names, mostly for convenience sake – not every human being in their lives has to know they are a nation, so they come in handy.
The idea of human names is so old that, tho it used to be just for their humans, now they do use them in private conversations between each other, kinda how a human would use a nickname.
Additionally, I think Russia is not just called Ivan Braginsky (btw it really bothers me that this family name is not Russian! It makes nooo sense for the representation of Russia to have a Polish name, why? (EDIT: got info that if spelled with “y” it is russian, but if spelled with an “i” then polish, see the comments below the post) I like Kolosov, stolen from @espisayer ), he would also have a patronym (otchestvo ), as it’s an everyday occurrence in Russia and Russians call each other by name_patronym when they want to be polite/official, not mr_familyname. Otchestvo comes from the father and Russia doesn’t technically have one, so I headcanon it’s: Ivan Petrovich from Czar Peter the Great.
RusPrus Headcanons:
The Russian language loves diminutives and has tons of ways to make them. For example, just the name Ivan can be turned into Vánja, Vanjúša, Vánečka, Vanjúšečka, Vanjúška, Ivánuška, Vánʹka, Iváška. Russia calls Prussia with a Russian-like-diminutive of the name Gilbert: Gilya and when he feels very cheesy, Gilyushka. Prussia calls him mostly Vanka, as it’s the less cutesy form of his name.
When it comes to other nicknames, Russia calls Prussia Vasilek which means cornflower (Prussia’s national flower). When he is feeling a little more romantic-but-dramatic (totally a Mood for him), he would use Black Eagle (chernyy orel) as a nickname.
Prussia…well, that gets complicated, bc there is a ton of ridiculous sounding, overly long, cutesy ways to make a nickname in German and I think Prussia would take full advantage of that (as I generally Headcanon that nation’s love their languages and their quirks!). So we can have Knuddelbärchen, Mausezähnche, Honigkuchenpferd, Schmuseküken and so on :D Tho Prussia would probably use those mostly ironically, to be silly or sometimes on purpose in front of others to make them uncomfortable.
But besides those jokes: he likes nicknames having to do with bears, bc well you get it, the Russian Bear, and low-key loves using küken, bc it's cute and he likes birds, so when they are alone and it’s not about being silly, it's küken or bärchen.
Hey guys, Admin Sarah here.
Wanted to throw a small note out there; I’ve only ever had two comments about it, but I wanted to address it before I got some more.
Some characters obviously don’t have official names, only names that Hima said they could possibly have, or fan favorite names.
For example, Liechtenstein doesn’t have an official name, but Hima suggested the name Erika of Vogel, though most people in the fandom just call her Lily, the same goes for Belgium, who has names Hima suggested, but she typically is known as Bella.
There are also some characters who’s names can be spelled in different ways, like Switzerland, some spell him name as Basch, where an alternative spelling that I personally use, is Vash. This also goes for characters like Hungary (some people spell Elizaveta, I do Elizabeta)
I just wanted to throw out there that I do read what Hima suggests as names, but I will usually go by what I see as a popular name among the fandom! That’s why I typically call Liechtenstein Lily, Belgium Bella, Netherlands Ned, ect.
I hope that clears some things up and makes sense to everyone!
Tanker om Sveriges etternavn? 👀 Er forresten enig med Björn - synes det passer veldig bra 👌
[Translation of ask in Norwegian: " Thoughts about Sweden's surname? (I) agree with Björn by the way - (I) think it fits very well. "]
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Answer: Sure thing, and thanks!
Himaruya gave Sweden the name Berwald Oxenstierna. I've gone over my thoughts about the name Berwald in my previous post "Hws Naming Sweden", but as a short summary for those who haven't read that post (yet? 👀) :
- Even if I for various reasons personally use the name Björn instead, there's nothing inheritable wrong with the name Berwald.
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Now;
This is something that's also true for his surname - Oxenstierna, and the majority of the Hetalia fandom seem to have agreed this is most likely a reference to the man Axel Oxenstierna.
Sure, it's an unusual Swedish surname, but it exists and have done so for a very long time. However, it should also be noted that the name isn't necessarily the best fit for (hws) Sweden, since Oxenstierna is a protected surname over here and a name only descendants to the Oxenstierna family are allowed to keep.
Without going too deep into details the Oxenstierna family were very high ranking nobles in Sweden, to the point that I would argue their family is as royal you could get without the actual royal title. Heck, Axel Oxenstierna was even essentially the acting regent of Sweden when Princess (later Queen) Kristina was still a minor and King II Adolf had died.
It's partly because of this that I've begun to use the surname Steilsson (Iceland's canon surname) more for (hws) Sweden over the years instead, especially in Human AUs where I don't want Sweden to be almost royal. Personally I strongly see Nor, Den, Swe and Iceland as siblings anyway - so giving them the same surname in at least Human AUs works out just fine.
Steilsson means "son of Steil", and the format of the surname is and was very common in Scandinavia. Karlsson, Andersson, Eriksson, Johansson and Svensson are just a few other examples of common surnames in Sweden, all which essentially means "son of [name]".
Sometimes I still use Oxenstierna simply because it's the name the Hetalia fandom will recognize (& I don't want to cause too much confusion since I've already changed my Sweden's first name into Björn), but when I want to joke around a bit and/or need another surname I give Sweden the surname Svensson instead.
Svensson is a very common surname here in Sweden, but since the name Sven means "the Swede" this also means the surname Svensson basically means "the Swede, the son of the Swede". And that's why my humor finds it hilarious to give (hws) Sweden the surname Svensson. xD
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In all honesty (hws) Sweden's surname is very versatile and can be adapted a lot depending on how you view the Nordics or even what kind of fanwork you're doing, such as nation-verse or Human AU. The only one I would actively recommend against is giving Sweden the surname Køhler (Den's fanon surname) or Bondevik (one of Nor's canon surnames).
Køhler because I have a very hard time imagining Sweden would ever keep a Danish surname with Danish spelling, and Bondevik because of the bad connections with the name in Norway.
Given how popular the pairing is, I will mention that in a SuFin scenario I even encourage the surname Väinämöinen over Finland taking's Sweden's surname. Väinämöinen is a powerful name I doubt (hws) Finland would want to change anyway.
[. For those who know me it's no secret I like SuFin as a pairing, but I also I feel a iffy about how many SuFin-fans still seem almost obsessed with making Finland out to be "Sweden's small, cutie, wife". <.<
Personally I think letting Finland keep Väinämöinen as his surname would also help highlight the fact Finland is Sweden's equal in a relationship, and hopefully remind people that Finland is an incredible strong and independent nation of his own. Again though, that's what I think. ]
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To summarize this long post:
Use Oxenstierna if you want, people. It isn't necessarily wrong - it just doesn't exactly fit either. Especially in human AUs when you don't want Sweden to be almost royal. At the same time it's the name most of the Hetalia fandom will recognize.
However, if you want another surname then Sweden's name is very versatile and there are many different options you can go with - a few examples being Steilsson, Svensson ("the Swede, son of the Swede" 😂 xD) or even Väinämöinen depending on what you write/draw.
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Once again a long post, but I hope you all enjoy this! 😄
Because of a recent “discussion” in a friend’s smaller Discord server with an assh-e I would like to take a minute to teach/remind everyone here that:
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- Björn is a REAL Swedish name, and is in fact a common Swedish name which is at least centuries old. (It also has the added bonus of being the Swedish word for ‘bear’.)
- Himaruya gave Sweden the name Berwald, which isn’t even a Swedish name, but WHO CARES? People get to use the name they want and are comfortable with.
- Don’t shit on people headcanoning other names than you.
- Let people headcanon nations’ names to be whatever they f-cking want.
- Assh,les should butt out of a Swede choosing a Swedish name that they headcanon as Sweden's “human” name.
(It's not like I shitted on him literally naming his Sweden "Sven").
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Should be obvious, but this also goes for other characters in the manga/anime, and not just Sweden. Let people HC their own names.
/ / Jezzica - A native Swede from Sweden who would thus know if Björn is a real Swedish name or not, Discord assh-le.