#hiveposting

[taweretsdagger]

also, the joining may be "reversible" but none of those 7 billion people are going back to how they were before. animals in every zoo were let out of their cages; acres upon acres of crops were left to rot and wither. the entire global population adopted a brand-new lifestyle and aspirational directive overnight, and from there on out ALL of their energy and intellect is devoted to seeing this directive through.

no matter what happens next, the world those people knew is gone. gone!!!!!!!!!! whoever comes out the other side will carry the impact of that transformation and everything they did and said while they were joined, plus the body-mind experience of *being* joined in the first place. what will the difference be between someone who is part of the hive, and someone who WAS part of the hive????

[ed3lsgard]

if hellyna hive existed in kier

[dr-nero-is-god]

h.i.v.e. pajamas headcanons

obviously the students do not get to pick but

i am obviously just doing what i want don't take it that deep

many of these are quite literally from walmart. and again i don't care. literally just trying to stay up long enough to time a tampon correctly

otto malpense

laura brand

wing fanchu

shelby trinity

franz argentblum

nigel darkdoom

(and boxer shorts but imagine them yourself)

dr. nero

raven

darkdoom

colonel francisco

professor pike and nathaniel

ms. leon

[unfamiliaris]

THE HIVE HAS FUCKING BREACJED CONTIANMENT. THEYRE POSTING ABOUT US ALL OVWR TWT. HELP.

[mcrlboro]

i love my fucking life

[lorettafryingpan]

For those who don’t know, I started keeping bees this year! I didn’t get a honey harvest but here are the fruits of my beeswax scraping, rendered and molded

[taweretsdagger]

What do you think an unplurbed Zosia would be like and how do you think she’ll react to the Carol of it all

good question--i definitely don't have a single settled idea on this!! it's tricky to feel too committed to any one outcome when we don't have "hive POV" perspective of what it's like to exist in a joined bodymind, only what they relay to carol and the other immune. but going by what we do know so far (and taking the hive at their word since we know they cannot lie), i have no reason not to believe that any member of the hive would be devastated to be detached (as i discussed a bit in this post).

as for zosia's view of carol, oooh man. probably very complicated, even absent any anger she might harbor toward carol for detaching her!! for one, the emotional experience of detachment will almost definitely be suuuuper messy and overwhelming, between possible biochemical withdrawals and the "re-tuning" of the body's electromagnetic field. so initially, zosia will probably not have the energy or presence of mind to feel much of anything about carol, specifically lol. once the dust settles, though, i think she'll retain some of the love she felt for carol while she was joined! but i also don't think a detached individual is going to have the same... capacity? maybe that's the right word?? to experience love as they did while they were joined. so maybe that love will exist as a memory for her, the same way grief and suffering existed as a memory before she detached. but i also tend to think that if zosia and carol continue spending time together, the love they've already built will come more and more to the surface of zosia's consciousness and meld with whatever new form of love they're building as two individuals, which could be so beautiful <3 i definitely believe they can work it out!!

i will also (very bravely) say that i disagree with most takes about this topic, because they usually assume the following conditions are true...

a difference exists between zosia-the-joined-individual and hivezosia

joined individuals cannot consent (and, therefore, carol and zosia's sexual relationship must be considered violative/assault from zosia-the-joined-individual's perspective)

zosia-the-joined-individual will have regrets surrounding the hive's treatment of carol and will view the hive and joining negatively

...when there's zero canonical evidence supporting any of these!! imo, they represent carol's assumptions about zosia/the hive more so than they do zosia/the hive themselves. and i get why people latch onto that, but i do find it a bit exhausting when it's posited as the Truth. as much as i love carol, i don't think the show intends for us to view her as a 100% reliable narrator!! as we get more information about the hive my mind could very well change, but it's kind of a bummer how much of the fandom blows right by the information we're given explicitly in the show when they're ideating about where things might be headed. it feels like so many people have made up their mind that the hive is Bad, and so they're working backwards to fill in the blanks of these big, complex, philosophical questions (that the show wants us to grapple with, mind you!!!) with answers that support the conclusion they've already determined must be true. couldn't be meeee though, like i WANT to live in the thought experiment!!!! because it's a fucking cool thought experiment!!!!!

[taweretsdagger]

ik i'm writing a whole fic about zosia dealing with detaching from the hive but lately i've had this feeling like the only way that event will show up in canon is if it's like........ a villain arc for carol, like something that zosia is INFURIATED about. and now carol has to deal with doing the very thing she hated so much to someone she does care deeply about. like imo we are gonna see the hive develop soooo much as a character and the narrative is going to become increasingly sympathetic to their motivations, as well as increasingly framing the individuals who comprise it as full human beings, not merely vessels who are waiting to come back "online" via the replacement of their joined personas with their pre-joining personas. and that really would be a lot more interesting?? like it would be soooo cool to get some zosia backstory and then see how elements of THAT version of her are woven into hivezosia, potentially coming out more and more as hivezosia continues to grow, both from the perspective of the hive's growth as well as hivezosia the individual's growth. idk. i'm just thinking so much lately about how good narratives must always always always be moving FORWARD, and i think a lot of the assumptions that get made about where the show is going ignore that aspect of storytelling. i get the sense that people want to cling to normalcy and predictability, and while i don't know anything more about where the plot is headed than any other random person off the street, it's such an innovative and creative concept that i would personally find it disappointing if it ended up reaffirming a lot of the tried-and-true ideas that people try to project onto it.