Hi, I was talking with some friends, and wanted some help double checking some 3H shenanigans and figured you'd be the best to ask. Do you know when in the game Ionius's whole wives situation got mentioned and what he did that got all the nobles to depose him? I remember something about concubines, but don't know where exactly in the game it was talked about to check and cite. Thank you very much if you're able to help!
I hope I can help then!
In Hubert and Hanneman's C support, it's more or less explained, by Hanneman that Ionius wanted to concentrate power on himself :
In your father's defense, the emperor was attempting to take power from the Seven Houses.
The emperor's reform was an attempt to concentrate power in the hands of the throne.
While Hubert presents it the other way :
He conspired with the ministers to usurp power from the emperor. And Lady Edelgard...
But both he and Hanneman later agree, in their B support, that Hubert is aware he is not very objective.
The Jp version gives a bit more insight on Hanneman's explanations, that were removed from the localised version for... well, I suppose, some reasons I still can't understand?
当時の陛下は、“七貴族”と呼ばれる 大貴族や外戚の特権を徐々に廃止し…
There's a mention of the consort kin, that is absent in the localised version.
This translation translated it as :
At that time, His Majesty was gradually abolishing the privileges of the consort kin and the ones referred to as “The Seven Aristocrats” – the great noble [families]
Ionius was thus trying to centralise power on himself, remove privileges and powers of the 7 and the consort kin.
Now, unlike some other settings, Ionius having consorts isn't that developped in Fodlan, so we don't have any clues, in canon, about what those privileges are. We can only surmise things here'n'there based on rl, I guess, as long as it doesn't contradict canon.
So, what could have been those consort kin privileges?
Let's take the Arundel example.
Anselma is wooed by Ionius, bears him a daughter, but doesn't become his official/legal/legitimate wife. She becomes his consort wife.
What is she going to do? She cannot marry someone else, Papa Arundel "lost" his daughter and cannot secure a good wedding for her (as is apparently the fate of Adrestian noblewomen?) because she's already one of Ionius's consort. Hell, given how their daughter isn't the next in line for the Imperial succession, Anselma's role is very shaky -
In Fates, we have the background concubine wars, where the goal was to have their kid become the heir (iirc?) so they would have a place by the King's side, or at least not be demoted as "extras" when the kid from another mother will become, well, king.
In Fodlan, from this line, we know the "kin" of the Imperial consorts had some "privileges" - a sort of crass way to say the Emperor gives them "stuff" so they will shut up if he "wooes" a daughter, relegates her as a baby maker and doesn't marry her, thus her "market value" drops and the resulting child is only an extra?
From the Libary, it's confirmed that :
House Arundel
Formerly a minor noble house of the Empire. As head of the house,
when Volkhard's younger sister became betrothed to Emperor Ionius IX,
Volkhard was granted the title of Lord Arundel. Having worked closely
with House Aegir, House Arundel is seen as one of the chief instigators
of the Insurrection of the Seven.
House Arundel became "important" when Anselma was wooed by Ionius and became his wife (consort wife though!).
So when Ionius wants to remove the consort kin privileges, aka giving some importance to the families of the women he "wooes", Arundel isn't super happy and spearheads the insurrection.
Now, why was that system created? Was it a way to prevent the Emperor from, say, having their cake and eating it, aka, seducing women, giving them kids and then throwing them (both?) away without strings attached? Or to make sure consort wife #7 will have a role somewhere, and her family will get a "compensation" for her loss?
Or worse, the "consort kin" privileges maybe also applied to the children of the consorts - they would have a lower rank compared to the children of the legitimate wife - but still be worth something?
The Adrestian Imperial family is sadly under utilised, so we don't a thing about what was the status of the consorts or their children (they just poof away in the game events, we never hear anything about Ionius's surviving consorts or his legitimate wife!) - but we know there used to be some sort of compensation (super dowry?) Ionius/the Emperor had to give to families of the women he screwed -
And from what the JP version of Hubert and Hanneman's support says, Ionius wanted to get rid of that.
(sorry if this gets double sent, tumblr mobile might be weird) Hi there, I remember you were interested in reading Pandora Hearts after you finally finish Tsubasa, and last time you posted about it I had to give the bad news that the English edition was out of print. This time I have good news - the standard English edition might be in print again! It’s currently exclusive to Rightstuf, so you’ll have to pay an arm and a leg for international shipping, but they have all 24 volumes of the series currently in stock! If there’s any volumes you’re still missing and you have the money to buy them with, now’s your chance! Good luck, and have fun if you do read PH!
Ooh thank you so much for the heads up! I think I'm only missing a volume or two from the end so I'll have to take a look.
Not that I'm particularly close to actually reading it yet, but still! One day!
I wanna join in! It's gonna be real obvious from my icon but I love Nursery Rhyme, she's adorable and Alice in Wonderland's been one of my favorite books since I was a kid. I love her dynamic with master Alice, and it makes me very happy she's become a bit of a recurring side character in F/GO. I wish Nasu and the gang would make more servants based on fairy tales and classic kid's lit, there's so much potential for cool Servants in there. Also, I really love Artoria!!! Classic Vanilla Saber is my absolute favorite, but there's so many of her that I love. And I love Voyager (I adore that his 2nd stage outfit is the Little Prince's costume), Bedivere is a good lad, and Oberon's and Brynhildr's art is absolutely beautiful.
Nursery Rhyme hit different in Extra for a lot of reasons, and I think it's really sweet that she's still carrying her Master's legacy in FGO. I don't know if the 'real' Alice would even understand what's going on with her Servant and the Lostbelts and Chaldea and so on, but I think it'd make her happy that her best friend is still thinking about her always.
The love for Classic Saber is always valid, and Voyager, Bedi, Oberon, and Brynhilder are all 10/10 Good Picks.
Hey as a quick heads up, since you're most likely close to done if not completely done with the Solomon chapter by now, once you finish it you'll unlock arcs 1.5 (Epic of Remnant) and 2 (Cosmos in the Lostbelt) of F/GO. EoR is not required in *gameplay*, and if you want to just speedrun to part 2 so you don't have to deal with any incoming "Clear x Lostbelt to unlock this event!"-type events you can skip it, but it *IS* required for story, and a lot of major characters and plot elements in part 2 aren't going to make sense unless you've cleared those chapters. You've got until July until the next event that requires part 2 completion to access hits (it'll require clearing up to Lostbelt 3), so please take your time playing, but just keep this in mind. And have fun while you play!
Thanks for telling me this. I'll probably try completing the Epic of Remnant first before the lostbelts. I've been told to skip Agartha, though. I've heard bad things about it's story by multiple people.
So, is there a way for me to get any relevant info I need to know without playing through it? Or is it not one of the relevant ones?
Nice to know I have until July to clear Lostbelt 3, though.
All right, episode 10 of PMMM just speedruns a bunch of new witches and familiars, so going down the line: the Arc d'Triomphe witch is Izabel, and her Guernica familiars are named Michaela. The sailor suit and arms witch is Patricia, and her skirts-and-skates familiars are Mathieu. The birdcage witch Homura blows up in a montage is Roberta, and her buff bird familiars are Gotz. Octavia's new Hitomi-esque familiars are Klarissa, and Madoka's witch is named Kriemhild Gretchen. Gretchen here is also named after Margaret AKA Gretchen from Goethe's Faust plays, who was Faust's tragic love interest. The more you know!
I continue to be obsessed with the fact that all the witches sound like a class of turn-of-the-century German schoolchildren
Sorry if this is rude to offer, if you need any religious resources I've found the tumblr blog blessedarethebinarybreakers (formerly known as queerlychristian) pretty useful! They're an intersectional LGBTQIA+ christian blog that's been trying to practice a way healthier form of christianity, and they have tags offering support for people with religious trauma or who need help leaving christianity. They might be able to help you out! Take care, and do what you gotta do!
I’ll take a look thank you !!! it’s not rude at all.
Hey, sorry if this is weird, I just wanted to give a heads up that the "list of abigoted dogwhistles" post uses screenshots from a troll blog that's specifically designed to slander aromantic and asexual people. Tumblr's had a massive harassment and hate campaign going on against aro/ace people for years even though aro/ace people are genuinely super marginalized, so posts like that one can cause some serious hurt.
No, thank you, I was prompted to do some digging by this and some stuff I saw in the notes for context, and that blog is in fact as you describe it, I’ve deleted that post. I think it goes without saying that stuff like that has been done and said completely unironically, but that case was definitely made in bad faith and with intent of defamation.
holdharmonysacred replied to your post “Can someone please explain to me the perspective that Adam is the...”
I don't think the whole "Court!Irregular looks like Allen" thing should be completely discarded since he shows up in SC&P prior to his Adamification and is described as having the same face as Allen and Hansel, but besides that i'm. baffled by this now. If I had to guess, people might've forgotten how that Irregular was portrayed in SC&P *before* Adam got inserted in, maybe???
Oh, no, I don’t mean to suggest that this Irregular doesn’t look like Allen and Hansel in terms of facial features, you’re right that this is established in SCaP. What I mean is that the PV depicts him as Allen. He isn’t just a Len, he is wearing Allen’s clothing. This makes no sense with current information, suggesting the PV is non canon to some degree.
