#httyd school

[cami-whatsit]

wip...

[anhttydbookfan]

Very excited for this

[acnhhh]

Hello, guys!

ACNHHH here. It’s been a while since I last posted, but I recently read "How to Train Your Dragon School: Doom of the Darkwing" and the short story "When the Windwalker Changed," and I’ve been wanting to talk about these with someone. So I’m hoping to find people here who are interested too!

The short story feels like a small glimpse into Hiccup’s future, and I honestly loved seeing what he’s been up to after the events of Book 12. One thing I found really interesting is how older Book Hiccup and Windwalker seem to physically resemble Movie Hiccup and Toothless . Older Book Hiccup lost his left leg and replaces it with a carved wooden-metal prosthetic and his new black firesuit, which makes him feel more heroic compared to his younger self. Our boy has really come a long way! I do wonder what actually happened to his leg though. Maybe he lost it fighting enemies of the Wilderwest or while rescuing dragons?

Another detail I found intriguing in the short story is the chess piece plot, specifically the king piece.

This idea continues in "How to Train Your Dragon School." In the first, and so far only, book, Camicazi finds a wooden object inside the Darkwing’s stomach from a shipwreck, which turns out to be a queen chess piece. If this chess theme continues, it makes me think the series might have five books: queen, bishop, rook, knight, and pawn. I am not including the king since it already appeared in the short story. Since this series seems to take place somewhere between Books 6 and 7, I am wondering if it might eventually lead into a time skip past Book 12, almost like an unofficial “Book 13.”

What really got me thinking is the Prophecy Dragon’s prediction that Camicazi will one day become Hiccup’s enemy, which Hiccup mostly laughed off. Could this a hint of what happened in Book 8, when Camicazi briefly turned on Hiccup after discovering his slavemark? Some people theorize that Hiccup and Camicazi might eventually marry but struggle with ruling the Wilderwest together. Others think their story could mirror Chinhilda and Grimbeard, especially since one of the series’ themes is that history repeats itself.

Personally, I do not think I could handle Hiccup and Camicazi becoming true enemies. They are too precious 😭

What do you all think? Any theories?

[cami-whatsit]

Httyd Book 13/Camicazi Theory

Spoilers for Httyd School: Fight of the Flamestrike

Fight of the Flamestrike twice bringing up that the Women of the Wind do not marry means it's important.

Worst case scenario, Camicazi's arc will be about her internal conflict on having feelings for Hiccup while simultaneously wanting to become a Woman of the Wind. People theorised that Camicazi's hinted feelings for Hiccup at the end of Book 12 may be expanded upon in Book 13, and this could be foreshadowed from Gladioli saying to Camicazi that choosing the Woman of the Wind path is worth it only if you follow your heart, so perhaps following her heart would lead to Hiccup instead.

I'm stating the obvious here, but that would truly be a terribly misogynistic, boring, and done plotline. And dare I say, out of character... Which is why I'm very happy with the confirmation in Fight of the Flamestrike that Camicazi does not care about romance and is ecstatic and determined about becoming a Woman of the Wind (currently anyway).

This also fuels my own opinion on Hiccami being ooc/doomed to fail, as I always thought there was no way in hell Camicazi would want to settle down and start a family, whereas Hiccup wants nothing more than to settle down and live a life of peace.

The prophecy of Camicazi becoming Hiccup's enemy one day and Camicazi pocketing the significant Grimbeard's Queen piece were such bombshells because they're so unexpected. Camicazi wanting to become a Woman of the Wind isn't unexpected. So how the hell do all of these fit together?

We are introduced to the Dreadread, King of the Lands of the Barbaric East in When the Windwalker Changed, as well as being told there are other Kings of the East he is rivalled with. This is particularly interesting information as this story is set when Hiccup is a young adult, and the unknowns at the end of the story: Dreardread declaring he will kill Hiccup, the Windwalker becoming known as the Dark Defender, that being a story for another time, and then mentioning Book 13, lead me to believe Book 13 will be set around the time of, or straight after this short story (although it does state that the Windwalker evolves "some time after the end of Hiccup's twelfth memoir", so maybe Book 13 will begin straight after Book 12, but to me it feels like due to the introduction of Young Adult Hiccup in this short story, as well as the setup of Dreadread vowing to destroy Hiccup, that Book 13 is going to be set in this era).

Some other details mentioned in WTWC about the East is that Dreadread brings up one of his rival kings of the East: King Barbaroos the Flashpot, Dreadread's fortress is named Goregantua, the forts in the East are bigger and richer than in the West, and Prisoner Execution Day is said to be part of the duties of a King of the East. Could just be added flavour to the short story, but it's a weird amount of detail to me. And another thing is we are introduced to another King of the East in FOTF: King Thundermore of the East Farlands. There seems to be a lot of emphasise on there being kings of the East, don't you think? Which makes you wonder if ever a queen was destined to rule over some part of the East, would it be significant?

My theory: In Book 13, it's revealed Camicazi is heir to the throne of one of the Eastlands, which is perfect because one of those lands is currently ruled by a tyrannical murderous King who is out to get Hiccup. Maybe Camicazi is excited and entertains this for a a while, or maybe she immediately turns it down. But either way, it becomes apparent that Camicazi doesn't want to be Queen, as she wants to be (or maybe at this point, has been) a Woman of the Wind. Hiccup tries to persuade Camicazi to lead because the East finally has the chance of having a just AND strong ruler (King Thundermore seems nice, but not warrior or leader material at all). But Camicazi is staunch in her decision, leading to Hiccup and Camicazi becoming enemies due to the dispute.

So where does the explicit detail of the Women of the Wind not marrying come into play?

Camicazi aspiring to be a Woman of the Wind is so interesting because this is the first time she's ever done something that goes against the typical societal viking expectations. Obviously aside from being friends with and standing with Hiccup and Fishlegs, but Camicazi never experienced any alienation or people disliking her for it, when it's pretty implied that this WILL happen to Camicazi when she becomes a Woman of the Wind.

Wouldn't Bertha immediately be completely against her daughter, everything a chief could possibly wish for in an heir: a natural-born leader, swordfighter, burglar and dragon rider who is more filled with courage and battle spirit than anyone, choosing to go adventuring alone? And to top it all off; swearing off marriage and producing no heirs? Camicazi being in line to some throne out there, East or not, means there'd be even more expectation and pressure for her to have heirs.

And circling back to the worst case scenario I brought up - Camicazi grappling with wanting to become a Woman of the Wind whilst also having feelings for Hiccup - I feel as if this pales in comparison to the arc Camicazi could go through if my theory is correct. I'm really not tooting my own horn here, I just think a woman's arc being about fighting to escape the shackles of an extremely flawed and heteronormative society would be FAR more compelling and progressive than an arc about a woman fighting for the right to... marry a man. And like I mentioned, this wouldn't even make sense for either Camicazi or Hiccup's characters. They both have completely opposite goals in life, and since the very beginning, Camicazi's character has been all about a girl trying to prove that the misogynists are wrong about her.

Obviously the handling of Camicazi deserves criticism with her character being a straw feminist and all. But then wouldn't her new arc being centred around fighting misogyny be even more justified? A chance to redeem the previous poor handling? It seems Camicazi having a whole arc in the future that will be taken seriously is due to Cressida realising Camicazi was seriously neglected in terms of character arc despite being in the main trio, being delegated to pure comedic relief.

We known from TWOO that Cressida isn't a stranger to straightbaiting her audience; hinting at a romance between the main boy and girl to then reveal the two as siblings, and that they never liked each other like that to begin with, it was just the narrator playing a trick on us. So Cressida may want to avoid the main guy and girl from getting together in her most popular series too as it's been done far too many times to count.

I don't expect to be right about any of the points I made here, but this is the most satisfying theory I could come up with with all the pieces we've been given so far. In a year's time Httyd School Book 3 will come out and will probably give us another bombshell reveal to do with Camicazi that throws all our theories out the window, and I'm so excited for that.

That being said, I do want Cami to become a Woman of the Wind... I can't think of a more satisfying conclusion for her

[cami-whatsit]

No spoilers for Fight of the Flamestrike here, this is just a pondering on Doom of the Darkwing.

The king chess piece relating to Hiccup (in When the Windwalker Changed) and the queen chess piece relating to Camicazi, paired with the 'That girl over there will be your enemy one day' prophecy made me think of the feud between the wizards and warriors in The Wizards of Once, the current rivalry at the time of the series being between the wizard king and the warrior queen.

Now, we know Cressida's stories take part in the same universe, and that Wish and Xar are descendants of Hiccup and Fishlegs, so these plotlines being connected isn't completely off the table, but I'm probably overthinking things.

This was just a little connection I made in my brain

[cami-whatsit]

Spoilers for httyd school fight of the flamestrike

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