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Confession #1087

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I think RWBY screwed up the reconciliation between Weiss and Whitley but not in the way everyone says.

Weiss being aggressive with Whitley does make sense because, while yeah he had a shit upbringing just like Weiss: No one really spared any tears for Weiss when she was being bitchy and aggressive in V1-3. At most, we get Yang saying her name to attempt to comfort her after revealing her abusive childhood but that immediately gets undercut by Weiss going back on the offensive against Blake. We're generally supposed to see her as unlikeable and humorous when she's humiliated. So when it happens with Whitley, who's acting very similar, it's kind of hard to see it as unfair.

No, the issue is Weiss isn't being aggressive enough. She isn't getting on Whitley's case like she did Ruby or god forbid Blake. She isn't being snobby and entitled around him. She isn't reacting with her persecution complex from Beacon. Before Whitley started portraying himself as antagonistic, the most we get is her being suspicious and Whitley saying she was avoiding him. Which is like, a .5 on the Weiss Spice scale. Yeah, I get she's cooled off from when she started but we need some time to see Whitley as being wronged by Weiss. Weiss needed to act like she did in V1 so we can see Whitley reacting appropriately.

Or hell, just edit some lines. Cut his scene in V4 E8. Have him look sad after the scene as Weiss walks away. Give him a softer delivery when greeting Weiss in V4 E11. Have him give a more bitter tone in V7 E8 when mentioning Klein getting fired. Cut him blaming Weiss for Jacques' arrest and focus on the dire straits of the Schnee family in V8 E4.

Yeah, he technically checks on his sister when she's being locked up and mentions Klein being fired...in a manner similar to Jacques saying he doesn't mistreat the Fanaus. Basic double meaning stuff.

Yeah, he gets upset when Weiss doesn't greet him...but when Whitley is being played like a little sleazeball, portrayed as a little sleazeball and is given a scene where he supposedly stabs Weiss in the back: you're not gonna see his side. It's like saying to take pity on Jacques because his business is logically failing.

Just...something unambiguously Weiss' fault.

If I may boil what your saying down a little- from my perspective your argument seems to be pointing at a problem with Weiss's characterization, which I can agree on.

I don't personally like or hate Whitely but that's because I haven't gotten the chance to fully digest the series (need to get back to that dear god) so most I can say is that when it comes to Weiss and how she treats Whitely I do believe that yeah she should have acted more defensive around him or just outright be antagonistic to an extent, showing she hasn't fully grown out of her worst habits yet.

Which would logistically make sense and be in line with writing her character, being an. Abusive household whether physically, emotionally, or psychologically, can sometimes cause those who grew up there to take on the bad habits they picked up to survive in there.

And when interacting with even someone from that household who the victim has a negative experience can also cause those bad habits.

But other than that most I can say is that Whitely kinda needs more moments where hes not just a sleazeball, he's a kid in a generally horrible household who adopts the worst traits from that household. He's not just Jacque 2.0.

He needs both scenes where he sucks to be around but also ones where he's allowed to be human, other wise he's just boring and one dimensional with no real reason to be a part of the story.

Or I'm talking out of my ass, I can't really say much on Whitely mainly cause I haven't really gotten the time to discuss him nor see the scenes he's in.

I also apologize for not answering this sooner I was busy with life stuff.

[grayskyzephyr]

Hi there, you don't know me and you don't need to know jack shit about me I just feel like giving my take.. and also want someone else's take on it.

I'm.. conflicted on Adam as a character, on one hand he has a lot of potential to be a great villain.. on the other hand, he's a raging incel and that's all he's ever written as.

Now that isn't where I take issue. I take issue with the fact the writing had him be both a shitty ex to Blake (which is a whole bundle of questionable choices given THAT product sold by rt during Valentine's day- aka the one where it had Blake and Adam on it and some shit like "lovers quarrel"- but that's beside the point.) but also.. a major component to the white fang subplot, and unfortunately.. the show drops the ball on the combination.

It could have worked but it nose dived as soon as Adam entered v4 (with his fuckboy design- no.. need to be serious here) with it being more apparent the story was focusing on Adam being Blake's ex rather than.. anything to do with the white fang, and to be blunt I feel as if that's one of the big problems I have with Adam (and Blake) they have a lot of story potential (for Blake it's too much but that's my take.) and yet nothing is done with them.

Adam gets packed up by volume 6 and the white fang is dissolved immediately prior when he first got his ass kicked by Blake. (Which.. dear god I have opinions on). Overall he feels underwhelming.

Im not expecting a tragic anti hero but if the writers are gonna set him up as a threat it feels a little unsatisfying to have him go out with no spectacle, no grand ass whooping when against yang and Blake, no send off with Blake refuting his hatred for humanity, no scene where yang gets pay back for Adam slicing off her arm and giving her PTSD from it, he just gets killed and that's it.

It's disappointing and overall I feel like if I could, and had to keep Adam a villain I would have atleast given his dynamic with yang and Blake more time, id atleast try and make him more hateable because instead of meeting hating him for everything he's done, I just can't care.

I'm sorry this makes no sense but if it somehow does id like your take on it, I know Adam is very much a dead ram horse (heh.. I need to be more funny..) in terms of conversation because.. well he isn't a "character" he's just a piece of cardboard the writers liked to ignore until they decide to give Blake something to do... Or in the fandoms case argue about whether he was written well or not.

Have a lovely day.. imma go fuck off now.

Wow, I wasn't expecting a lengthy ask. I had to find time to answer lol

But yes I do agree with everything you said. I've made a post here taking my turn beating the dead horse on the whole Adam debacle, but it was more so geared towards the fandom's continued violent hatred of him. Reminder that he is a fictional character who does not exist.

I do believe making Adam Blake's "ex abusive boyfriend" was unnecessary, because it takes away the struggle Blake faces as a faunus in society and where her values in activism lie. But that doesn't mean it couldn't work alongside with it. It was so cartoonishly goofy when Adam walks in calling Blake "my love" in that cringe attempt to be sinister.

I really do hate how Blake is defined by being a victim of abuse and the fandom coddling her for it and not by her indominable spirit in wanted to fight for her people. That part of her has been tossed to the wayside along with Adam's corpse. And I do hate how we are not allowed to have a nuance discussion on Adam as a character because the fandom and crwby simply won't allow it

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So like weird ass idea and apologies if this ain't the vibe but for cats vs dogs.

What if after all the mental abuse and manipulation CC did to jaune, jaune just CANT kill them. Not because he likes the abuse or he still is in love with them. But because he has to let go.

He would just walk away with team rwby as the cat is left to rot (like the piece of shit he is) in the ever after as he be BEGGING jaune, HIS sunshine to stay. But jaune just ignores him. (and also maybe juniper joins jaune just to REALLY leave CC to rot.)

It's dumb but I just wanna see CC get the tables turned on him after he severely underestimated the impact jaunes friends had on him. (Oh yeah and because of the mental and emotional abuse)

It’s not weird at all, this is pretty much exactly what I have happening in the end!

Keep in mind, Jaune not killing CC doesn’t mean they don’t die, because his friends dispatch them PROMPTLY. If Jaune needs to not kill CC for his healing, then good for him. But RWBY aren’t going to let the cat get away with abusing their friends for decades

But Jaune doesn’t kill CC. Mostly because let’s be real he’s got HELLA trauma about killing people who “trust” him. Being with CC didn’t cure him of Penny Trauma by a long shot, if anything it only made it worse

But it’s also more than a little bit because Jaune knows that nothing will hurt CC more than ignoring them

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