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i am thinking about the fact that after i ragequit path to nowhere after insatiable fiesta rerun, i never really tried to go back to the game, i kinda gave up and never touched it again and the game still pisses me off sometimes if i think about it. And is not even the only transphobic game i know, the way fgo treat Caeneus is so bad that makes me want to hit my head on the wall, the character is good, but everything around him pisses me off (the design, the way the characters refers to him, the way the fandom refers to him, etc.).

I think the problem lies on why i started to play both of them.

Fgo i started to play because i liked fate/stay night and wanted more of the franchise, the trans characters in fgo, specifically da vinci, despite the problems, she become something i started to apreciate after i discover myself trans and she is good enough to make me enjoy her a lot (and ignore the fandom being weird about her), and she is playable and she is important and an amazing character in all her aspects. All trans characters in fgo are playable and important characters, the fandom is weird with all of them and fgo really mess up with Caeneus (And caeneus still is a good character and a really important one too).

Path to Nowhere i started to play because i keep seeing many people say about how sapphic the game is, how queer the game is, etc. and the only trans woman is a NPC in a event that is really transphobic in such a violent way that is bizarre, what happens with her actually made me feel bad, this shoot me off from this game so hard that i couldn't stomach it anymore, still can't, i tried, didn't work.

Like, probably the reason why i still play fgo even with the way it treated Caeneus, is probably the same reason i keep playing despite all other problems, i still like the franchise and what i think is good makes me stomach what is bad (and put bad on that), but i will never recommend fgo for the lgbtqia+ characters and i don't see people actually recommending the franchise because of the lgbt characters (and the franchise have canon lgbt characters, really good ones too). I started path to nowhere because of that, literally, and discover the transphobic stuff on the game that i was already having some problems with it made me stop the game and being unable to give more chances.

If Path to nowhere added an actual canon trans playable character, i would probably think about giving it more chances, because something more would be able to be done with the character, or it would be developed far more than a NPC is (so she would not be stuck in a transphobic story like Carol is), but i doubt it would ever happen.

#fgo #path to nowhere #finally putting into words this thoughts i had about this a long time after it happened #and the way path to nowhere is violent #is so bizarre #and awful #and the fact that she is just a npc #that will never have anything more than just this really transphobic story #make it worse #and the game being sold to me as this really sapphic and queer game #this have more to do with the fandom than the game itself #AISNO didn't promote the game this way #but kinda helped this event have a even worst negative impact on me

I do believe they chose the theme bc of the links to queer community & it being iconic in that sense. That still doesn't say a single thing about Harry, and I don't think he should worry about how everything he does is perceived by larries. But, when he knows they're currently very riled up about him dating and we all could predict how they'd take this, idt it was the best choice just bc I do think they'll now get worse for a while. But its his choice, if hes comfortable that they're ignorable.

1. I don't think Harry or Louis think about larries at all, other than every now and then when their bad behaviour is forced in their face. As Louis once said, he doesn't think about them unless they start upsetting Eleanor or Jay etc. Again, Harry has a whole life which he clearly does not spend engaging with his own fandom. He's a rich, famous dude. He doesn't think about them and probably doesn't think about his fandom much at all, outside of work.

2. They could well have chosen it for that, but I think you have to ask yourself, would people assume that meaning if it was any other artist? Because Harry has had ten years of being scrutinised for every single thing and what it means about his identity, and pretty much every one of his fans clearly makes assumptions about it. But other artists don't have that.

If BTS, for example, did a Wizard of Oz themed costume set this year, pretty much no one would make it a queer connection or think it was chosen to 'mean' something. Felix from Stray Kids is dressed like Elsa from Frozen and zero people are making it about his sexuality, even though he's been quite vocal in his support of queerness. Or if Niall or Ed Sheeran did. Other men get to present however they like and do fun Halloween costumes and it's meaningless and people don't speculate, but Harry does it and it is imbued with significance and meaning and deep thought. It seems like people are bringing their assumptions to the table rather than asking 'how would I perceive this if it was anyone else?'

I mean it could well be they literally just thought 'what costume can we do for this many people on stage' and 'and what costume could we do as a group that ties to a song we can sing'. It doesn't have to be deep. This fandom has a problem with thinking they are literally always being communicated with by Harry because they want to feel special and like he's telling them something secret, and its weird.

He may well identify with the text or enjoy it because of its queer connection (although again, its more of an iconic queer film for people a bit older than he and I) but if that’s the case, isn’t it sad that he can’t just enjoy it without it being a thing for people to make really weird posts about that fetishize dude queerness and erase bisexuality?

#like the fact that the costume can't be enjoyed by some people without it ultimately being reduced to who people thinks he fucks #is so bizarre #on harry #discourse