#jancy s4

[oliiiveroo]

i also saw someone say that ‘johnathan doesn’t care about nancy and he knows nothing about her’ HELLO? did we not watch the same show? the show where in s4 they are cross-cut with eachother both explaining to their friend (argyle and fred) why they love eachother. hello. people just don’t watch the show for 5 years and then formulate opinions based off of random tiktoks they see i swear

[willbyerssupremacist]

"jonathan who"

jonathan who stayed by your side all night because you were so traumatized from the upsidedown and he wanted to make sure you were okay? jonathan who trusted you enough to tell you about his past and all the trauma his father gave him, and who you trusted enough to do the same. jonathan with whom you share a scar with. jonathan who wanted to support you so bad that he ended up getting fired from his job that he clearly needed because he's poor and helps his single mother pay the bills. jonathan who is letting you go because he wants you to follow your dreams and he doesn't want you to hold back for his sake.

jonathan who had to play dad for will starting at age eight because his own father left them. jonathan who ignored his own feelings and trauma in order to try and fix the mess his father made. jonathan who had a job at sixteen and was working extra shifts to help out at home. jonathan who had to go coffin shopping alone at sixteen for his "dead" little brother. jonathan who had to console his mother who he thought was going hysterical over his brother's "death". jonathan who had to check his father's car for his little brother's body. jonathan who was called homophobic slurs, who had his family insulted in front of him, who had his brother's "death" rubbed in his face, who was compared to his ab*sive deadbeat father. jonathan who always told his brother to embrace who he was, and to not be ashamed of it. jonathan who would never give up on his loved ones.

jonathan who is loyal, jonathan who is compassionate, jonathan who would risk everything for his loved ones in a heartbeat.

that is jonathan, and nobody better forget it ever again.

[bananasbyler]

Let’s do a short version of a parallel dive:

Byler and Jancy (light and dark ending parallel)

The light shines on Will signifiying his coming out and him being gay. Mike is in the dark literally and figuratively until he reaches into the light to touch Will. This signifies Mike’s future coming out and feelings he reciprocates with Will.

Nancy and Jonathan are both hidden in the shadows/dark with light on the outside. This represents that both think the other is fine while they keep secrets themselves. Jonathan is hiding his college situation and Nancy is hiding her unresolved feelings with Steve that resurfaced.

Byler is shown in the dark with light coming through. A beacon of hope and new beginnings.

Jancy is shown with a growing darkness overcoming the light. A sign of distrust and bad things coming.

[willbyerssupremacist]

"the wheelers can't love meh meh meh blah blah blah"

"that's why I LOVE him" - nancy about jonathan in volume 1. sure, she couldn't say it to steve, but thats because she genuinely wasn't in love with him. murray literally went over this. I hate the whole "the wheelers can't love" thing, you ever think that maybe they're just trying to express love to the wrong people? nancy couldn't love steve, yet she LOVES jonathan, she can clearly say AND show it.

that being said, mike not saying he loves eleven isn't because "the wheelers can't express love", if I hear that arguement one more time my brain is going to explode.

[willbyerssupremacist]

from now on i will refer to byler and jancy as byler².

[willbyerssupremacist]

people still hate jancy after "only love makes you that crazy, sweetheart... and that damn stupid"??? couldn't be me.