#jauffre

[moonlight-and-mantles]

Welcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where incorrect quotes are made.

[ego-osbourne]

[grandpa-swamp]

he had to have known right..?

[killeveryoneforever]

How Oblivion could have gone if anyone thought for 20 more seconds:

HoK: Jauffre I brought the amulet and we need to find Martin

Jauffre: Ok lemme take that and you go get Martin

Hok: Wait isn't it a bad idea to leave the amulet in a stationary location that is also potentially known to the people trying to get it? The assassins got into the secret escape passage, they probably know this is a blades hideout.

HoK: Also, why aren't you coming to get the Literal Only Heir to the Throne? Doesn't he need as much protection as possible? You're a blade.

Jauffre: Oh wow I didn't think of that, I guess I'm getting old, let's go.

And then they go to Kvatch, grab Martin, and travel to the temple. Wow! Dragon fires lit! Yay!

And I'd get to keep Martin.

[babyblueetbaemonster]

I'm not a trained spy, I don't know how to secretly take the secret heir to a secret hideout. I walked on the main road. I walked into the major city. I walked straight to Weynon Priory without wandering to anywhere else. It's gonna be so easy for the Mythic Dawn to track us.

Slight twist for the main quest. Bc there's a lot of Mythic Dawn agents and sleeper agents in Cyrodiil. There's got to be at least one of them follow us form the sewer.

I think most of them were targeting Baurus, the remaining Blade agent who was there when the emperor died. He has higher chance to carry the amulet and escape and planing the next move. Plus the man is hard to track down, and most of the Mythic Dawn assassins after him were killed, bc Baurus is that good <3 so no one can confirm the where about of the amulet.

Meanwhile there's probably only one Mythic Dawn agent following hok, bc we're just some filthy prisoner in the sewer at that time. They're probably watching hok dicking around, catching fish, picking flowers, and doing all kind of nonsense quests. They probably file a report like: Can confirm. This dumbass is irrelevant. Only for them to find hok again weeks later when they're opening Oblivion Gates in Kvatch. To their surprised we actually close the Gate and save Martin. The agent immediately send a daedirc telegram, asking for back up, then continue to follow us. And we're still dicking around, now with Martin's company.

Killing Marin turns out to be hard bc hok is really powerful, and wewill occasionally went into Ayleid ruin or some dangerous places. A lot of assassins who try to ambush us just die by traps and stuff. So instead, they decide getting the amulet is way easier. But they can't tell if hok still has it on them, or leave it somewhere. But hok doesn't go straight to Imperial City, which means the amulet is somewhere else, and they do know we take a turn to Chorrol. They may or may not know the relationship between the Blades and Talos cults, and they may or may not know Weynon Priory is dedicated to the Order of Talos. So they may or may not know Weynon Priory is the secret hideout for the Blades.

It's interesting that we and the Mythic Dawn arrive at the Priory almost at the same time. Maybe the speed of the daedric telegraph is as fast as the speed of the agents' gathering. I think it's best for them to get the amulet before hok and Martin arrive. But them waiting Jauffre to take the amulet out of the hiding spot is very reasonable.

But I think it's still possible for them to like, hanging outside the window all day everyday to see where Jauffre hides the amulet XD

[skyrim-atmospheres]

🤔

[transificationbeem]

[reddredpanda]

I love how the destinies of Martin and the Hero of Kvatch are so intertwined. You cannot have one without the other.

People presume that Martin is the only Chosen One. The one blessed by the Divines to stop Mehrunes Dagon from taking over Nirn. By all accounts, one would think the HOK is just some guy (or girl) who just happened to be in the right place at the right time to help Martin. And maybe that's true to an extent. But I really don't think that's the case. After all, the Emperor says he saw the HOK in his dreams, specifically, when we first meet him. Not just any random prisoner, but the HOK themselves. And he trusts the HOK immediately, despite literally just meeting them, with the Amulet of Kings and with finding his secret son that only Jauffre knows of. Why would he see the HOK specifically if the Divines did not intend for the HOK to also be Chosen?

The HOK is, in a way, just as much the Chosen One as Martin, because without the HOK, Martin never would have made it out of Kvatch alive. And without Martin, the HOK would never have made it out of the Imperial City alive. And without one or the other, the Mythic Dawn cult and Mehrunes Dagon would never have been stopped. Their mutual success relies entirely on being with the other.

The Hero closes the gates and gets the materials needed for Martin to succeed. They put their life on the line over and over, and they line everything up for Martin to succeed so he can end Mehrunes once and for all. And Martin makes the ultimate sacrifice to close all the gates and defeat Mehrunes Dagon for good and save all of Nirn, because only he, a Dragonborn, can access Akatosh's power to stop Dagon. Without Martin's sacrifice, without his blood, Mehrunes Dagon would have won. Neither could have succeeded without the other. The Hero could never have stopped Mehrunes on his own. Martin wouldn't have even lived long enough to stop Mehrunes if not for the HOK.

One cannot exist without the other. Without the HOK, there is no Emporer Martin Septim, last of the Septim line, no Avatar of Akatosh, no Hero King who sacrifices himself to save the world. Without Martin, there is no Hero of Kvatch, no Champion of Cyrodil, no new Sheogorath, no *insert all faction leader names the HOK can become.* Both would have died unmemerable nobodies without the other.

They were always meant to both be the Chosen One, destined to save Nirn. Together. Always.

And it makes Martin's death all the more painful. Because without Martin, their other half, the HOK returns to being a nobody in the eyes of Tamriel. Hence why, in the future, no one seems to remember anything important about them, other than they existed. Not their name, their age, their star sign, their race, their gender....Nothing.

Because they are nothing without Martin.