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Prefect Henri Gisquet, from his own memoirs, on the legal system's harassment of sex workers , via Jill Harsin's Policing Prostitution in 19th Century Paris
the “But Javert Can’t Be Black” discussion starter pack
Because I’m already starting to see this coming up, answers to common arguments about why X character in Les Mis Can’t Be Black For Historical Reasons. These arguments are, generally, misinformed. Let’s start with Javert:
- “There weren’t any black people in France” and/or “any black people in France were slaves or personal servants”:
Slavery within the borders of France proper was abolished during the Revolution. While Napoleon reinstated it for many of the French colonies and territories, and instituted a new “Code Noir” in his laws that made life in France much much harder for free black citizens, slavery was never again made the law of the land for already-free black people in France-- and there had been a good many such people before Napoleon’s new wave of legalized bigotry. Many of them had been among the Republic’s most noted heroes, including the Chevalier de Saint-Georges , and General Thomas-Alexandre Dumas-- the father of novelist Alexandre Dumas, one of Victor Hugo’s closest lifelong friends.
Life for black people in France under Napoleon was not easy, and racism was definitely an ongoing problem on both a legal and cultural level-- but black people lived and succeeded in France all the same.
- “A black man would never have such a high status job as police inspector!”
A: Police Inspectors in canon era France were actually a pretty low-status job! The pay was abysmal, and most were assumed to live off of bribes and other “arrangements” with the people they oversaw. While Hugo’s treatment of Javert’s career and role in the force is often kind of ..inaccurate, with his duties being vague and often contradictory, none of the potential jobs he might hold could ever be considered “high status” or particularly aspirational in the timeline of the novel. *Javert* considers his job vital and important because of his faith in the social order and his desire to serve it, but the average French citizen of the time is highly unlikely to see it as a desirable or respectable post-- better than some more physically grueling forms of low-paying work, maybe, but not much else. In short, it’s exactly the kind of job a marginalized man with a good record and a supportive patron would most likely be able to access. (And of course before that Javert is just a prison guard--again, not high status at all.)
One more discussion and some sources under the cut!
when Valjean takes out a knife to cut Javert free, he comments that it suits him better than the gun. It's also in the musical: "how right you should kill with a knife." Is there a significance I'm not getting? The way it's written in the show attaches more "you should get this" value than the book. Is it because Javert thinks Valjean wants to make his death painful? Or to slice him like bread? Am I over analyzing?
No, you’re right!:D It’s meant to be a Thing!
At the time, guns were seen as martial, “ honorable”. and sort of above- board.
Guns and ammo were both fairly expensive, and pretty hard to use stealthily- if you shot someone with a gun, everyone was gonna hear about it. And then the people who commonly used guns were soldiers, in Honorable Combat. Guns were also associated with Gentleman’s Sports, like hunting. And of course being killed with a gun, even the guns of the time, tended to be very fast and final, at least at close range. Guns were expensive,overt, and arguably “merciful”.
Knives, though? Geez, anyone could have a knife. Almost everyone did! Any man would be very likely to carry around a knife just for daily tasks--it was sort of a multi-tool. Knives were cheap, common, often killed in a slow painful way,and they were silent-- a criminal’s tool of choice.
This ties in with why Enjolras insists they shoot Javert in the first place, even though they have limited ammunition-- he’s establishing the revolutionaries as a being an honorable, military group, not a criminal gang. And this is why Javert thinks Valjean is better suited by a knife-- it’s what a criminal would do.
I think the social distinction is pretty much gone now, after a couple solid centuries of criminals using guns etc., plus the general shift in attitudes towards “honorable” death as a concept. But at the time,the social symbolism both Enjolras and Javert are referencing would have been clear.
...Sorry I can’t Source this , I’m afraid it’s just one of those “read a lot of period sources and you’ll get the idea” things >_< I hope it helps!
The official registration of common prostitutes.. is now either on the voluntary demand of the female or by requisition of the Bureau des Moeurs (Bureau of Public Morals).
An account of how legalized prostitution was regulated in France. This applies to the 1850s specifically, but has a lot in common with the system in the earlier part of the century (and would of course have been part of the social context of Hugo’s initial French audience in 1862.)
Fantine and Javert, book and musical encounters
Like I said in this post about canon-era prostitution, the musical changes the encounters between Fantine and Javert quite a lot. For one thing, it cuts them in half. In the book and the musical, Fantine and Javert meet at her arrest, in the book only, they then meet again at her deathbed. Here's the most relevant bits of text for those meetings, with links if you want to read the whole chapter (Hapgood translation). As always with these reference posts, this is for information; use it or ignore it in fanwork as you please!
Meeting 1: The Arrest In the musical, Fantine and Javert really only encounter each other once, that they get any dialogue, in the scene of her arrest. That's their first on-page interaction in the book, too, though as I mentioned in an earlier post it's entirely possible that they've encountered each other in a professional setting before (and no, that's not an innuendo at all). In general, I think the arrest follows the action in the book pretty closely; Fantine pleads her own case, Valjean intercedes on behalf of a disbelieving Fantine, Javert protests, and Valjean takes responsibility for Fantine and Cosette and their well-being-- all pretty close (though the musical, understandably, skips over Fantine's excellent protest against the use of prison labor for state profit, something that's still horribly relevant and that matters to her and Valjean both, but is probably pretty hard to set to a meter).
Here's how Fantine's arrest plays out in the book:
Suddenly a man of lofty stature emerged vivaciously from the crowd, seized the woman by her satin bodice, which was covered with mud, and said to her, "Follow me!"
The woman raised her head; her furious voice suddenly died away. Her eyes were glassy; she turned pale instead of livid, and she trembled with a quiver of terror. She had recognized Javert.
The dandy took advantage of the incident to make his escape.
-Les Miserables, 1.5.12 with the interrogation scene continued in 1.5.13 I recommend it, because I think Fantine’s fantastic, but it’s too long for one post!
I’m using this excerpt because I think it gives the biggest changes about the scene (besides skipping the detail Fantine gives about her situation): in the musical, her assailant Bamatabois is actually a would-be client (in the book, he's just a rich guy harassing her because he can); and Bamatabois actually calls for Javert and presses charges against Fantine. In the book, Bamatabois has zero interest in talking to Javert; he leaves the scene of the crime (and Madeleine/Valjean actually hangs around the scene and talks to witnesses, after the arrest).
Meeting 2: The Hospital
That second and final encounter occurs, plot-wise, in between what on stage is "Come to Me" and "The Confrontation". On stage, Fantine dies, peacefully, with the promise that Valjean will save her daughter; Javert shows up after her death; In the book he shows up before it, while Fantine thinks Cosette is already near (because people have been lying to her, because she’s dying). Relevant excerpt the scene under the cut, for length and depiction of major character death and slurs. What’s different here is...well, that it happens, so pretty much everything.
Fantine, Javert, and Workplace Connections
Tossing this out in hopes it will be of use/interest to other people, and because I want to have these links in one place.:P
The relationship between Fantine and Javert is, I think, one of the more contextually dramatic and interesting ones in the story (it’s also one of the relationships I think the musical changes the most, in many ways, but that’s a different post). Because the thing is, prostitution in Fantine’s time was legal; so their jobs might have brought them into contact before, not as an arresting officer and criminal, but as, well, an Inspector and the inspected.
Under the cut for discussion of prostitution and institutionalized violence-