#jonsa speculation

[catofoldstones]

what do you think fandom wise would happen if j0nsa was heavily hinted at in winds? most BNFs would have the biggest aneurysm lol

Well, it will definitely divide the fandom even more. As for the BNFs they will react the same way they did when the affc outline was released and the “resolve to be sansa stark” and “take north” excerpts came to light: by writing lengthy essays about how it’s something else entirely. Or maybe go full ostrich syndrome and duck their heads into the sand, and deny everything; claim that jonsas are delusional and we’re only seeing things we want to see. They might even go one step further and argue that Jon has lost his character and the Jon they know would never do anything like this, which is fairly common for fandoms in general to do.

As for jonsas, there might be schisms in this fandom too. I know and love mutuals who wish for Jon & Sansa to fall in love while they think siblings and get married to save the north and unmuddle the claim to the north, but I personally feel like the story is moving towards Sansa gaining more agency and independence in her life, so I would like for her to choose who she wants to marry, and it has to be someone who wants her despite her claim to the north. So them marrying out of obligation will never work for me, and people like me. But, a win is a win ;)

I think jonsa neutrals will continue to be just that and analyse the book from a non-ship perspective, which they still do.

Would love to see the tiktok “who is jeyne poole” and “cersei jaime incest explained” and “did you know in the books…” plebeians have a collective meltdown because they usually seem to have the strongest opinions on the books without ever having read them. I’ll have popcorn ready lol.

HOWEVER, the hints will only worsen the fandom wars we have going on. Every single anti opinion will trigger us and every single meta post by us will trigger the antis launching into an all out nuclear attack from both sides which will result in both new jonsas and new jonsa antis, twitter blowing up our posts, and a frustrated and unfruitful yearn for ados on all ends. The world side-eyes us and moves on, we don’t.

But, for that George has to release twow first, which rn feels both inevitable yet impossible.

TLDR: fandom remains fandom, we fight over the book like surviving factions over a fresh deer carcass after a zombie apocalypse, no one moves on.

[jonsaforever]

Does someone know a Jonsa fanfic where Sansa arrives in Castle Black and Jon is still in his wolf-coma? Ghost bonding with Sansa while Jon is warging on him…?

Please let me know 😇 I would appreciate it a lot

[ode-to-an-inkwell]

Hey there! I’m a long term jonsa lover but just recently I’ve came to tumblr to get deep into it and I absolutely love your blog! I was wondering if you could tell me some of the theories fans have on how Jon and Sansa will reunite in the books, if you’d want to

Sending love from Brazil 💚💛

Hello, dear anon 💕

As far as theories go, many of us believe that Sansa will be the ‘girl in grey on a dying horse’ from Melisandre’s vision. The show sort of set this up, as she arrived at Castle Black in grey on a dying horse. There’s also a basis for this idea in the books, however.

Sansa’s currently in the Vale, and we’ve seen in preview chapters of Winds of Winter how she’s developing there. Her arc as Alayne, the bastard, has brought Jon to her thoughts more. Further, this is the furthest north she’s been since book one, and she can literally taste Winterfell in the snowfall.

We know that the Vale isn’t safe for Sansa. Firstly, there’s the betrothal to Harrold Hardyng. He’s depicted as vain and callous thus far, fathering at least two bastard children. This isn’t a good match for Sansa. Secondly (and more importantly) is Petyr Baelish. Like Bael the Bard, he wishes to steal the Northern Rose (Sansa). Unlike Bael, Littlefinger won’t be satisfied to give up anything he’s worked for—he’ll be holding onto Sansa and the power he’s accrued hard enough to strangle it.

(It’s also interesting that there are so many references to Bael the Bard in Jon’s chapters, but I digress)

It stands to reason that Sansa will come to a crossroads in WoW. With her identity falsified and a price on her head, things could get very dangerous for her without Littlefinger’s protection, and his “protection” is more akin to imprisonment. There’s some speculation that Sansa will soon kill LF—if he tries to force himself on her, she may very well have to.

Whether this comes to pass or not, Sansa will need to flee the Vale soon if she wishes to be safe, let alone happy. She can’t go south and into Cersei’s clutches, and she can’t go to Winterfell. Sansa will need the protection of someone she can trust. The only family she *thinks* is alive and *knows* how to find is...Jon. And it makes sense that these two wolves will want to form a pack.

After all, she’s a bastard too now, just like him.

Thank you for the ask! 🥰🌸

[fortunatelylori]

Hi! Loved your take on Jonsa season 8 i would scream if Jonsa was confirmed ep 1!! But how would the love triangle play out in that case if everybody except D* knows Jon loves Sansa? Also i am in great need of a new chapter of Wolves of Spring!! Or any Jonsa fic by you i loved the Rose one shot too!

Hey, nonnie!

Thanks! :) Glad you’re enjoy it! 

In my speculative scenario, the bulk of the love triangle would take place in episode 1 and 2. Episode 1 is really where they can go all out with the little that J0nereys has going for it while Sansa becomes more and more aware of the fact that she really doesn’t want Jon anywhere near D*ny. At the end of episode 1, Jon and Sansa kiss but since it’s the sort of thing that kind of explodes between them, there’s still room to play with doubt. Also, Jon is trying to tread carefully around D*ny so he might be put in a situation where he has to take D*ny’s side. 

D*ny could initiate intimacy and Sansa can begin to think that whatever happened between her and Jon didn’t matter to him. And on and on … there are a lot of ways you can play up the dynamic. 

And then you shove the Tyrion marriage in there to push Jon and Sansa into action and go through with the secret wedding. It’s really at the end of episode 2, that they become a fully-fledged couple so to speak. 

And even then, you could bring a misunderstanding in there to muddy the waters and then you have Sansa being kidnapped and they don’t get a chance to clear the air and you stretch the tension and only resolve it when they are reunited. 

So while the audience might know that Jon loves Sansa, not D*ny, the characters might experience the kind of doubt that let’s you play with the love triangle. 

In addition to that, I’ve always called the D*ny/Jon/Sansa plot line a faux love triangle. That’s because   season 7 never gave me any reasons to think that Jon was in love with D*ny. So you can’t play this as a classic love triangle where one person, in this case Jon, is torn between two options he can’t pick from. 

In fact, I’d say that in most love triangles I’ve seen executed one options is always better in the character’s eyes than the other but for whatever reason, whether commitment or foolishness, arguments etc. , the character is stuck in between. 

In Jon’s case the reason for the love triangle doesn’t have to do with his feelings but rather politics and military strategy. And that’s where the tension comes from: he thinks he needs D*ny but he knows he’s in love with Sansa. 

As for Wolves of Spring, I know it’s been a long wait and I’m really sorry for that. I’m still working on chapter 7 but it’s coming along slower than I anticipated and I’ve also had a lot on my plate this month so I couldn’t dedicate as much time to writing as I would have liked. But I’m still working on it and I hope to update very soon!

Thanks for the ask! 

[everythingjonsa]

Sophie’s interview - about season 8

“This season, there's a new threat, and all of a sudden she finds herself somewhat back in the deep end. And without Littlefinger, it's a test for her of whether she can get through it.

"It's a big challenge for her, without this master manipulator having her back. This season is more a passionate fight for her than a political, manipulative kind of fight."

What could she possibly mean ??

A new threat ??

1. Could it be from D&D ( 😂 I mean Dani & Dragons, lol)

2. The northern lords threatening to back off from the whole KITN deal - after Jon’s parentage reveal (They want to do it, and you know that)

3. Cersei

4. WW - Will she have to prepare for war before Jon & co reach WF 😱? Nah! I highly doubt it. But after the Great War begins, who knows..

Passionate fight vs. political manipulative fight

Sansa’s whole arc has been political and manipulative. So I’m really racking my brains here. Don’t worry 😉 I know Sophie’s a troll. I’m just doing this for fun!

1. Could it be bringing/ keeping the north under one banner?

2. Fighting the golden company when Jon’s busy fighting the white walkers?

3. Rising, as a true queen of the realm.

4. Hunger and Cold - Winter has come, people. With the armies fighting to keep death at bay, how will Sansa deal with death that is standing on the doorstep of her people’s homes? I think this is a great possibility and is connected with point no. 3. It won’t be a political, manipulative fight. It will be a passionate struggle to keep her people alive, against all odds.

5. Of course, one can’t forget, the fight for her heart 💓

I can see Jonsa as a solution to many different problems!

So what do you think people??

Or is Sophie just being a troll ? 😠😂

[princess-in-a-tower]

if jonsa happens in winds of winter? Does that mean they are doomed? No couple in the saga had a happy ending so early in the game, besides how do you think their feelings will be? Will they know that it is love, or will they be confused, and will not tell the other what they are feeling?

Hello anon! Thank you for the ask!

I don’t think Jonsa will happen in TWOW. I believe they will fall inlove with each other in that book, that is true, but I am certain they will notact on those feelings before Jon’s parentage has been revealed. They will dancearound each other, much like J.aime and B.rienne did during their time together,probably doing a ton of romantic stuff for the other without actuallyconfessing their feelings (even to themselves).

From the two of them, I believe Jon will be the 1st torecognize his feelings towards Sansa for what they are. He will feel guiltyabout them in typical Jon fashion and torment will ensue. Sansa on the otherhand will probably not realize why she feels those feelings at first. When she eventuallywill, I can totally see her distort the truth completely, “romanticizing” aproblematic situation, as she seems to do frequently enough in order to cope.

So, no they are not doomed, because they will only get together in thevery end, when Jon’s true identity has been revealed.  Before that, they will be miserable and sufferfor their feelings, but it will all be worth it in the end, when they get theirhappily ever after.

[tragedyofromance]

                                                      @jonsameta

in the original outline you have three people seeking refuge at the wall- Catlyn, Bran and @rya two woman and one man, we have the same dynamic in the show two women and one man Brienne, Podric and Sansa,  ofcourse in the orignal one it was family but you still have that dynamic and a sister/family is seeking refuge at the wall.

In the original outline Jon expresses anguish for not being able to help @rya, Catlyn and bran and @rya will be more forgiving to jon, in the show you also have the forgiving element but it’s with Jon who’s doing the forgiving since in the books Sansa was indifferent to him but not really mean to Jon so i just found it odd that the writers had Sansa asking for forgiveness, so you still have that element of the guilt and being forgiven at castle black so that part got me very   👀

In the outline @rya was the one who had the realization that she was in love with Jon, In the show however if you take the original outline and put in the show it seems that Jon is the one to be falling hard over Sansa and in a lot jonsa meta’s a lot has speculated that Jon has developed feeling for Sansa first. And in the gif presented i think that was the moment that jon realised his feelings for sansa was not in fact brotherly.

the following gifs are just the continuum of the original outline but in jonsa edition

i feel like if you switch a little things up, such as jon being the one realising his love for his sister, and also the one forgiving sansa the orignal outline can be still considered in the show, and i just had this idea/tinfoil in my head for quite some time so i felt like sharing it

What do you guys think, i will love to hear opinions of my fellow jonsa peers opinions and please tinfoil away! :D

[thatfictionalgal]

So there was a theory floating around a while ago that Cersei was going to use the Golden Company to also kidnap Sansa. Now Jon is apparently bending knees to Cersei. Wonder what his motivation could be....