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What do you think of Joyofsatan.org? They claim to follow the Greek Gods, they support abortion, they follow gay Pagan Gods and they’re the largest Pagan group in the world.
They are fascists, antisemites and neo-nazis. They are unwelcome here.
Also, don't give them traffic to their website.
This isn't the usual type of post I make, but I want to make it anyways. I've recently received an ask from an anon asking me how I felt about "joyofsatan.org". Since I run a hair blog, I could tell this was some type of copypasta. I did a little research and turns out they're a neo-nazi group.
If you get sent a similar ask, do not answer it. This is most likely a recruiting tactic. I'm going to link this post by @witchyyyyyy if you want to learn more about JoS and the ask circulating.
Stay safe guys!!
What do you think of Joyofsatan.org? They claim to follow the Sumerian God Enki-Satan, they’re pro-choice, they follow gay Pagan Gods and they’re the largest Satanist group in the world
As long as they don't affect the society in any negative or intrusive way, they can worship anything they like, spaghetti monsters, ancient folk mythology creatures even hello kitty figures i couldn't care less. Personally i don't believe in "supernatural" or "spiritual" or anything that is not ruled by the laws of physics. However everyone is free to believe what he chooses to but only if it doesn't affect anyone else in any unwanted way, including proselytism of children. Now, as for their beliefs in social matters such as abortion, i respect that they chose the decent path but that doesn't validates their religion or any other opinions they might have.
What do you think of Joyofsatan.org? They follow the Greek Gods and they’re the largest Hellenic Pagan group in the world.
This post turned out way longer than I anticipated. Here's a quick TL;DR- A quick glance around the linked site showed me no mention of Hellenic paganism (or any Hellenic gods), nor did a search through the forums. These are satanists, not Hellenic pagans. It even says so in their name.
So I'm going to answer this with the assumption of good faith. I poked around their website and it was... interesting. They seem to really hate x-iantiy, and I mean... good for them? The layout was a bit confusing, but I honestly looked around as much as I could and saw no mention of the Hellenic pantheon or indeed ANY of the Hellenic gods. Plenty of mention of demons and devils and whatnot but none about my gods.
Giving it the benefit of the doubt I even went to check the forums linked on the front page and wow! I really wish I hadn't. LOTS of blatant antisemitism, "new world order" nonsense (which, for the uninformed, is (neo?)nazi nonsense), and attempts to scare people away from taking the vaccine. I even saw a guy with a hitler icon- standing in front of a flag and looking very patriotic. I wanted to think at first maybe this was a loud minority but some of the people I saw posting seemed to be popular members of the community. Of course its hard to tell from a quick look but it seems pretty clear to me where this community stands.
Still, assuming good faith here. But, anon, I really, really don't think these people are worshipers of the Hellenic gods. Even if they suddenly all agreed no, actually, they believe in and worship Zeus and his kin, the way they talk about Jewish people, the way they attack trans people, the way they try to convince others to leave themselves vulnerable- it goes directly against Xenia (@/medeatheewitch wrote a nice post about Xenia and how to properly worship the Hellenic gods you must be anti-racist and anti-fascist that you can read here). They could claim to be Hellenic polytheists all they want, their stances show their true colors. They are not the sort of people I would allow in my spaces and honestly trying to say these people are Hellenic pagans seems insulting.
These are not Hellenic pagans. I see no attempts from them to claim to be Hellenic pagans. These are satanists, and a rather shitty bunch at that. They seem to be worse than a lot of Christians I know, and they do nothing but give satanists a bad name- something x-ians probably appreciate.
What do you think of Joyofsatan.org ? Is it a good witchcraft resource
Satanists (and I can't speak for all of them) don't believe in an actual god head or deity figure. It's mainly about human experience, satanists are their own gods in a sense. They respect human and animal life.
As discussed on this blog, satanism ≠ witchcraft. Satanism is not Witchcraft. Satanism is a religion, witchcraft is a practice. So no, I don't think it's a good witchcraft source. It may however be a good source for witches who wish to learn more about satanism.
However I didn't look at the page for very long so if anyone does want to take a look for themselves just be careful, I don't know if there are any triggers on the site.
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