Though the story of first soldier II came to an end last month, there were still things that kept me wondering, one of which was the story beyond section, or rather, the pinkish-purple dream sequence of Angeal. What exactly were those dreams? And how did they contribute to Angeal's characterization, along with the rest of the story, of Ever Crisis and Crisis Core? In this post, I would like to share some thoughts or my own what-ifs regarding the first question, as the Part I of this discussion.
[tw: mention of character's suicide and self-loathing]
Part I. Memory, Dream & JENOVA's weaving process
Firstly I'd like to talk about the authenticity of the “dreams”. For Sephiroth, those in the first chapters indeed seemed like dreams of wish fulfillment. But for Angeal, were they also illusory, or did they at least contain some elements of wish fulfillment?
I incline to view that Angeal's story beyond sections in the first two chapters were his actual memories conjured by JENOVA, and then they shifted to implanted false memories in chapter 3, and lastly to “nightmares”. It's a process from truth to fake, recognition to refusal, contrary to Sephiroth's track from knowing its falsity to acceptance. The “dreams” took over the mind when the conscious personality ebbed: as the teens fell asleep, and as Angeal received a heavy punch from Sephi. It also somehow reminded me of the extreme case of how JENOVA influenced Cloud's mind and weaved memories for him when his self shattered to pieces after Zack's death.
(I) Memory
In fact, in this post by @runerapier, he had offered a very insightful, prophetic, detailed and amazingly organized discussion of whether Angeal's dream in the first chapter was real and the possible reasons of why he'd have this dream. I'm deeply in love with his points of the contrast and mirroring of the two kids, of their desires both being unattainable, but one being fictional and the other being from the past, to which he was unable to return. And as mentioned in his post, the two kids' reactions to the dreams could also be a reality indicator.
In chapter 1 and 2, Sephiroth questioned the scenes, while Angeal identified them by saying “Right”. And in chapter 3, when JENOVA presented the dream of a family trip to Angeal, he questioned and denied it too. In my opinions, what's common in their dreams in the first two chapters was not the nature of wish fulfillment, but their remained consciousness to judge whether this was real.
Besides, a fact check might be useful, too. In runerapier's post, he had already elaborated that the love Angeal received from his family and his love for them and the village was already real, and explained the reasonableness of the food at the party in detail. And in chapter 2, we had a photo-taking scene that spun off from the family photo in CC, and the praise and gratitude Angeal received from villagers were followed by their telling of his deeds and caring nature. Now that the chapters were all out, we also had a memory from Angeal's View in chapter 5, in which his father clearly loved him and the family T^T.
What's more, from the perspective of characterization, I think the information in CC about Angeal's past and family was not given enough, as in we might be able to do the deduction or make assumptions, but could not directly see much of it. And that's why I tend to believe that what the creators intended in the early sections of FSII might be to offer more backstories for Angeal. Here we even got more characterization of Gillian and his father.
The screenshots were a part of the conversation log from chapter 1 TSB, and here, we could see how Gillian was burdened by her past. She said, “I don't deserve all this...It makes me feel guilty”, while Angeal's father said, “You think something bad is bound to happen to balance the scales after this wonderful day?”, suggesting he knew about her hidden emotional turmoil in spite of possibly not knowing the actual cause. Based on these lines, I think she was unable to speak of her past because of deep guilt, pained by her sins, feeling unworthy of the love of her son and husband, and haunted by the precariousness of fortune. What might be the bad things that were bound to happen? It might be that even though she succeeded in running away physically, the demon from the past was still chasing her and caught her eventually. Was it really just “A little...”? Maybe it's too much inside her heart. “But you two will be fine.” she said, “You both do so much to help out others, after all.” To me, it sounded almost like a prayer: When the punishment finally falls, please let them be safe and free from the bad things, at least owing to the help they offered to other people.
I think she was torn when Angeal told them he wanted to join SOLDIER (before this birthday party, because Angeal said “I'm gonna be SOLDIER starting in spring”, and this sounded like a fact already known and the decision already made, or else his parents might be much more surprised at the table, maybe). On the one hand, she knew the sins of Shinra as she was part of it too in the past, and I personally think she was very much worried for him and feared that he'd fall onto her old track, having his life ruined by Shinra just like hers. But on the other hand, she couldn't talk about her past with them and could only vaguely express her misgiving by pointing out “It's dangerous work”, and because of her love for him, she didn't want to let her past stop him from becoming who he wanted to be, from doing things he wanted to do. “If you've decided, then I'll do everything I can to support you.” Rather than strongly opposing him without giving more reasons, she chose to support her son's dream. And maybe deep inside, she also was putting herself under anesthetic by telling herself that he'd be fine because he's such a helpful kid, an angel without sin, and that the punishments must be inflicted only upon her because she was the one who committed crimes.
I might overdo the interpretation here with Gillian's inner thoughts. But back to the topic, I'd be confused if her words were part of Angeal's illusory dreams. Why would JENOVA made up the details about her state of mind? If it was a wish fulfillment case like Sephiroth's dreams, I think...she'd seem happier...
All in all, although there might be a room for ambiguity in the game, I think we had reasons and evidence to take the first two sections as memories. And here the question comes: Why was it that Angeal's dreams at first were memories, while Sephiroth's dreams didn't include this stage?
As we knew, JENOVA had already set eyes on Sephiroth when Alissa was projected the face of Lucrecia as its agent, choosing him in first place as the masamune wielder by leading questions, making him believe that he was the one to take it back, and knowing him too well as it displayed the illusions of Glenn Team, Hojo and Rosen. Meanwhile, judging by the family trip dream of Angeal in chapter 3, I think JENOVA didn't seem to understand Angeal like it did with Sephiroth, for it mistook the reason why he didn't use Buster Sword. So, what if she didn't know Angeal that well, and thus she had to extract his important memories at first?
I believe that when the creators were likely to use the story beyond sections to enrich Angeal's background and personality, it's not only a process of us reading Angeal's past, but it was also JENOVA's process of reading his memory, getting to know his desires, and approaching his inner burdens. And after it gathered “enough” information, when things got more and more tense and Angeal still insisted on asking the team to stop and warning them about how strange things were, it started to make a new kind of dream for him, a trap of fake memory implanted and woven in his mind, attempting to have him fall for it just like how it was for Sephiroth. And when it failed, it later shifted to something darker, exploring his shadow aspect.
(II) Rereading Angeal's Dream Sequence
After sharing thoughts on what Angeal's dreams might be and evolve into, I'd like to talk about how JENOVA fished for his desires and burdens and used them to weave his dreams, along with some of my interpretations or assumptions of Angeal.
Here in Chapter 1 TSB, in his memory and after recalling it, Angeal expressed two things: one was his wish for giving his parents a relaxed life, and the other was the feeling of powerlessness entrenched in his heart. Speaking of powerlessness, I personally believe that it originated in his early years of life, in which his family suffered from poverty and hunger. And I assume that as a little child, Angeal must have experienced so many times watching his parents struggling to provide food and worrying about the next days at night, while he was standing aside, having the urge to be helpful but feeling so helpless at the same time. And day by day, this powerlessness kept coiling around his heart, until it grew a root so deep that working hard and making so many donations was still not enough......
Rural boy Angeal's dream was to become a SOLDIER, and now he succeeded, so what was his desire now? Here in chapter 2 TSB, in the shining memory of the send-off, he offered the answer of “keep on fighting”, not only for his parents but also for other people. I'd like to assume that this desire to fight for everyone struggling in their hard times might also develop into him being a mentor for SOLDIERs in CC.
And now, grasping his desire to give his parents a chance to rest and enjoy life, getting hold of his aspiration to help others, and knowing how much Angeal valued the sword but without him telling Alissa or JENOVA why he didn't use that sword, in chapter 3 JENOVA implanted a dream, or a fake memory into Angeal's mind.
At the beginning of this dream, his parents marvelled at the scenery of Costa del Sol and voiced gratitude. Afterwards, the “Angeal” in this fake memory said something completely in line with the desires he expressed earlier: “You've been working all your lives, and I've always wanted to give you a chance to rest for a bit”. It seemed to me that this was a wish fulfillment made specially for Angeal. Although in the past, as shown in Angeal's View in chapter 5, his father told him that working in the apple farm and staying with his family in Banora was already satisfactory enough, Angeal still wanted to provide a better life for his parents. Here, instead of having Angeal really buy a house in Midgar for his parents, JENOVA made Angeal and Sephiroth both experience a dream of a family trip, forming another parallel and contrast, in which Sephiroth dreamed of being loved by his mother, while Angeal dreamed of giving love back to his parents.
But both dreams remained unattainable, just like runerapier prophetically wrote in his post. Both being heavily burdened, a mother was trapped in her past, struggling with the complex, while a father was trapped under the load of reality, struggling with the illness; with hardly any choices left, they were gone from their kids' lives. And their kids walked on different paths. Sephiroth fell for her love despite knowing it's fake at first, because for a kid who owned nothing, a drop of real warmth and sweetness could mean the world; Angeal didn't fall for the illusions, because the love he had and his past in the wind of Banora had nurtured him into who he was today.
When he denied the wish fulfillment dream made by JENOVA, what came next was an illusory Gillian, accusing him of being stubborn and refusing to ignore the little injustices, which not only included all of the strangeness in this mission, but also suggested the injustices he might encounter in Shinra. From this conversation I'd like to infer that as a SOLDIER, Angeal might have already had a glimpse of the darker side surrounding this job, and he probably didn't choose to ignore it like anyone else. And Gillian didn't just leave Angeal to join Shinra with her best wishes and a handmade outfit as his gift. She knew what he might run into there, and thus taught him to stay true to his own judgment and his heart. She might intend to help him avoid falling into the banality of evil, hoping this lesson would help steer him away from her old path. And along with all of the past that shaped him into who he was, along with the sword as a physical and spiritual guard, her lesson of justice did help him find his way back to reality.
Meanwhile, JENOVA realized that, unlike Sephiroth, implanting a fake memory of wish fulfillment could not make Angeal fall for it and accept its influence, or “let it in”, as Alissa and Bachman put it in the temple. It hit a wall, but it also got hold of a new piece of information from him:
And very soon, it made a shift in strategy, and used this against him by pulling him back to the funeral in the following “nightmare”, claiming that it was his fault through the mouth of his mother.
I think it was not just a conversation between JENOVA and Angeal, but also a conversation between Angeal's consciousness and his shadow.
“In analytical psychology, the shadow is an unconscious aspect of the personality that does not correspond with the ego ideal, leading the ego to resist and project the shadow, creating conflict with it. ” (source: Shadow (psychology) - Wikipedia)
From what I've read (mostly on the wiki!) about Jung's theory, a shadow is a part of the self that one's light of consciousness refuses to acknowledge, and it could be either negative or positive. Confronting the shadow is an early step to launch the process of individuation, which, if successful, might lead to a more complete and well-functioning self. However, in such process, there is a risk of merging with the shadow when one could not handle the overwhelming disillusion, pain and despair in the encounter with their shadow, resulting in one's consciousness losing control to the shadow and becoming its slave. Hence, in order to succeed in the process, the consciousness needs to understand and integrate the shadow, instead of getting consumed by it.
As a layperson in psychology, I'm not sure if there was any mistake or misunderstanding here, so please feel free to let me know or help me correct them~ thanks ahead! And for now, if I may, please allow me to share my interpretation utilizing this concept.
With the lens of Jung to look at Angeal's dreams in the story beyond sections of chapter 3 and 4, I feel that it was a process of JENOVA conjuring his shadow and attempting to let Angeal's consciousness fall under the attacks of pain and guilt when confronting it, and later hand over the control of his mind. In other words, it's like “if your consciousness can't let me in willingly, then it should be the one who gets banished.”
In my personal opinion, what might happen in reality was that Gillian was drowned in sadness and hardly said anything, and in her heart she might think that this must be the punishment upon her, shattering the transient happiness of a past she'd stolen, and she might even think that maybe if she refused to be so stubborn and took any allowance from Shinra to help the family, her husband would not pass away like this. All of these were just my assumption though.
Meanwhile, Angeal clearly blamed himself for his father's death. I feel that Gillian in this dream might be the projection of Angeal's shadow, telling him his own thoughts buried and repressed inside. When Angeal said “No”, maybe to some extent he knew that it was not his fault objectively. At the same time, it sounded like a rejection too, rejecting his inner, darkest thought that he perceived to be a truth, one buried deep but clear as day and like a dagger to his heart, one coming from himself and perhaps never from Gillian - or, he was also afraid of hearing it from her.
“A murderer”, she said, and “a fraud” too. And Angeal asked himself, “Can I really say she's wrong, though?” I think that a (large) part of him genuinely wanted to help people, but there was also a part of him that he might repress, a desire for praise and thus proving that he could be helpful, that he was no longer that helpless child who could only steal apples to survive starvation and served no use to ease his parents' suffering. And after encountering the repressed, it looked like his image of self included a persona of being the selfless and helpful one, and a seemingly conflicting shadow of craving for and earning compliments and in this way evading his own powerlessness. He was pained by the fact that “what he truly was” seemed less good than he wanted to be, who appeared to be so selfish, such a disgrace (shaming his parents and their nurture), so ugly that he should be eliminated...This thought of disappearance might come from JENOVA's intention, but I tend to believe that JENOVA was amplifying what was buried deep down in his darkest time. FSII also made me feel that this self-loathing and thought of self destruction now seemed to be there long before CC...
Though JENOVA failed again to make his consciousness rest, it later forged what seemed like his last nightmare in chapter 4, beginning with the echo of dagger-like words from its previous digging into Angeal's trauma.
In the fifth dream, what “Angeal's father” said about him working hard because of expecting something in return, and him marrying Gillian because of expecting her allowance, about his “selfish” intentions and desires behind good acts and love, seemed like a parallel of Angeal's own “selfishness” shown in the previous dream. Angeal continued to answer with earnestness and sincerity after the initial silence, saying, “No matter how you really feel, you saved both of us. You gave me this sword. I still believe in you.” It was how he'd face his father, and it also reminded me of what happened in CC with Angeal and Gillian…I didn't remember seeing hints of his anger towards his mother. Instead, he refused to let Hollander mention her name as he pulled the man's collar with force and rage. I personally guess that if there was also a similar dream in CC with Gillian, Angeal might say to her, “No matter what you did in the past, you took me away. You had been giving me love, and burdened yourself with shame and guilt. I couldn't bring myself to hate you.” Regardless of what their heart might contain and what they did in the past, their love for Angeal remained a palpable certitude.
If he could accept his loved ones, could he also accept his own shadow?
JENOVA soon converted to this direction.
A “murderer”, for causing his father to be crushed by the debts, while he always wanted to give him a comfortable life. A “selfish brat”, for pursuing what he wanted regardless of his mother's inner wish to get away from Shinra, while persuading himself that he could still make them happy and proud for his success. A “weak” person inside, for sticking to the excuse of simply following his father's lesson, while failing to truly face the powerlessness and the rest of the aspects of himself that conflicted with who he thought he should be. These accusations altogether became very painful strikes targeting himself, and I feel that they were one of the harshest thoughts he'd have on himself, forming a part of his shadow repressed so deep.
And it all pointed to the final spot: “Die, and atone for your sins.” I personally think that it was not only JENOVA speaking through his father's illusion, but it was also himself, the young Angeal around 16 years old; it was also Gillian speaking to herself in CC; and it was also Angeal speaking to himself in Modeoheim, and at last, he turned into Angeal Penance.
And he accepted the fall of the sword on him, willingly, as his penance.
When adopting Jung's lens, I think that if Angeal chose to avoid or reject the sword here in this dream, it'd be his consciousness running away and leaving the space for his shadow to take control. Accepting the attack here might not mean accepting JENOVA, but giving no resistance to the attacks from what it conjured with a stoical mindset, with his consciousness and will making a choice and sticking with it till the very end. Thus, he woke up and remained free from JENOVA's manipulation of his mind, just like how he broke free by himself before the final boss fight.
I'd like to quote this sentence about descending to meet one's unconsciousness or shadow, at the end of talking about Angeal's dreams.
“In this time of descent – one, three, seven years, more or less – genuine courage and strength are required”. (Shadow (psychology) - Wikipedia; Bly, Robert, and Marion Woodman. 1999. The Maiden King. Dorset. )
I think Angeal really showed so much earnestness, courage and the strength of will when confronting the harshest, darkest accusations towards himself. And was it really “selfish”? was it really “a disgrace”? To me, the desire for praise and having the powerlessness inside of him made him a more complete, real and complex person, and the fact that it burdened him so much and later he chose to face it even highlighted what's shining on him. Just like the existence of shadow could in fact make the light brighter.
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To add a bit at the end of this post, I guess some of you might have already noticed it when I was rambling with the word shadow. So at last, greetings to our Shadow Angeal and Shadow Sephiroth.
I don't have any more evidence of the creators using Jung's concept except for the name though~ All I know is that they ended up in the penultimate battle, with their Boss Details including three words describing their Type: Humanoid, Terrestrial, Shadow. Meanwhile, the demon masamune and his variations only got the former two, and from my investigation, I believe that no other boss in FSII or even the entire FS got three words in this Type section. I could be wrong and miss some bosses, but this kind of description seemed rather rare. Also, Shadow Sephiroth seemed to get two new skills. “Diving Scourge deals massive damage, but can be canceled by emptying force gauge: Sword Mastery.” suggesting owning masamune helped him ease the damage of diving scourge? And Shadow Angeal's skills seemed to be the same as what he originally had, still protecting his shadow ally.
Here in this battle, JENOVA physically conjured their shadow selves. But instead of integrating as Jung's theory suggested, they were fighting and defeating their shadows. This seemed in line with the previous physical form in the story beyond sections, which was Angeal using the Buster Sword to break the nightmares, and Sephiroth holding his sword up against the illusions of Team Glenn and Refu. What's more, I personally feel that neither of them had actually walked through the process of Jung's individuation successfully, given what happened in CC. Somehow, I got this feeling that FSII was another CC, with the very end already determined, but we got to see more of the young soldiers, just like we got to see more of Zack. And this leads to the topic of characterization. However, since this post seemed already too long, I guess I'll leave PART II about Angeal's characterization in CC and EC in another post!
I know that my interpretation was just one of so many ways~ so I'd like to just present mine as an ordinary (and massive) rock and hopefully could get to read you guys' jade! Lastly, a huge thank you for reading this!














