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The June 18 bombshell from Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard is as damning an indictment of America’s legacy media as it is of

The June 18 bombshell from Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard is as damning an indictment of America’s legacy media as it is of Anthony Fauci.

Supported by newly declassified records, ODNI now accuses Dr. Fauci of funding dangerous coronavirus research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, secretly steering intelligence assessments toward a natural-origin narrative, ruthlessly suppressing dissent and misleading Congress about his contacts with intelligence officials.

Yet the same media organizations that canonized Dr. Fauci during the pandemic emergency now refuse to treat these charges seriously. Here is how serious this is:

• COVID-19 killed more than 1.2 million Americans and more than 7 million people worldwide. The World Health Organization estimates roughly 14.9 million excess deaths in 2020 and 2021 alone.

• A University of Southern California model put the pandemic’s total cost to the United States at $14 trillion through 2023. The International Monetary Fund estimated cumulative global output losses of nearly $13.8 trillion through 2024.

• Let’s not forget the closed schools, delayed cancer screenings, missed medical treatments, elderly Americans isolated in their final months, mental health collapse, substance abuse, family breakdown and a generation of children set back by lockdown madness.

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‘Lab Leak,’ a flashy page on the virus’ origins, replaces government COVID sites : Shots - Health News https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/04/18/g-s1-61324/lab-leak-white-house-covid-origins

The new page emphatically promotes a theory that many scientists question. Meanwhile, basic information about COVID testing and vaccines has

#npr news #news #american news #health #american politics #health news #donald trump #healthcare #covid 19 #lab leak #conspiracy theories #i hate to be the boring 'the most obvious answer is usually the right one' person... but how many diseases have come from animals?#i guess we're just gonna ignore that #and not push for more safety measures to be taken in wet markets... le sigh

Five years after the start of Covid, we still don’t know the truth.

I knew it was a lab leak. It never made sense why a the idea was so throughly discounted when it was entirely plausible. Researchers, the media, and the government lied to us fully knowing they were peddling a bold-faced lie. The virus came from a lab and had been subject to human manipulation and they all knew it the entire time.

…The C.I.A. recently updated its assessment of how the Covid pandemic began, judging a lab leak to be the likely origin, albeit with low confidence. The Department of Energy, which runs sophisticated labs, and the F.B.I. came to that conclusion in 2023. But there are certainly more questions for governments and researchers across the world to answer. Why did it take until now for the German public to learn that way back in 2020, their Federal Intelligence Service endorsed a lab leak origin with 80 to 95 percent probability? What else is still being kept from us about the pandemic that half a decade ago changed all of our lives?

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Truth Leaks About Lab Leak

The lie that shut down life itself has been acknowledged by the liars. Fabulists who distorted willingly are very sorry. You may not think they’re sincere for some reason. Five years later, those who knew China’s lab leak infected the world, copying the infector’s infringements only made things worse, rights remained supreme despite mocking by Quislings, gubernatorial dictators are as inept as they are drunk with power, shots are not necessarily vaccines, and masks are as useless as the material used to make them remain vindicated. There will naturally be no compensation.

That Chinese lab sure was leaky. The middling Middle Kingdom should try plastic wrap over windows you seal with a hair dryer. Does the people’s republic allow such decadent items? Earth’s most notorious remaining hammer and sickle hive made everyone diseased. I would rather have not had my red menace-style paranoia confirmed, but the ominous force consumed the globe like a Why We Fight animation.

The arsonists who helped China incinerate civilization have now granted permission to condemn napalm. You can finally speak the truth thanks to a benevolent decision by guardians of the narrative. You’ll still be punished for noting they’re the ones who lied like it was their job and suppressed those who noticed.

Moe hit Larry as punishment for dropping the beaker. The belated apology for a fib that shut down the planet on behalf of commie stooges who will have to suffice. Oh, and Hunter Biden’s laptop existed.

You’ll never guess what else promoted as absolute truth turned out to be claptrap. Would you believe masks did as little as the virtue signal they embodied? You would? Well, that worked out. I also start to suspect that eating while drinking in a bar didn’t keep anyone safe. Politicians who’ve never figured out that taking money from the economy harms it surely grasped epidemiology.

Truth wins out. It just took the loss of everything that makes us human. Those who embraced a lie conveniently used governmental force to ensure compliance. Stalling growth as individuals and a society is the price of being kept in peril. I am starting to suspect that not everyone has affordably awesome insurance by mandate.

An ideology based around coercion just needed an excuse. A virus was the interventionists’ time to shine. Telling others what to do is of supreme importance if you’ve decided everyone’s lives are on the line. Questioning unsubstantiated claims is so unscientific. You probably still oppose dumping sand in skate parks.

Trauma remains. Waking up wondering if you can catch your breath is just the start. Mocking you for wanting little things like rights added a bit of flair to bullying. Democrats think rights are only for gangsters whose illegal immigration was just the start of crimes.

We can’t undo the damage. Those responsible should’ve known that even before they sentenced everyone to time in the hole. Holding back society for a grade has led to a remedial performance. Failures clearly haven’t learned the lesson. Capricious despots would sequester everyone again upon hearing a cough. The precedent of deciding a governor can keep you from getting a haircut if there’s a virus about was all the goons wanted. Failure is irrelevant. To them, installing fear is the success. Asking where the option to commandeer autonomy stems from is for Constitution-reading nerds. Duh: it’s from winning an election.

Those who think government is the source of safety, decency, and love are confused by your contrarian contempt. They’re unable to even consider the possibility that authority comes from consenting citizens. The idea that power could be limited horrifies those who know capitals are the source of prosperity and bliss. Journalists doing the bidding of kingpins didn’t want to criticize China because the benevolent tyranny exemplifies their preferred governing style. Vigorous hall monitors create a different kind of sickness.

Liberals only have the feeling that they help. You don’t have to feel bad for them. Self-righteous types shrieked about heartless corporate tycoons who treated profits as more important than people. The useless refuse to discover that business is nothing more than creating value. I’m sorry to report we need those things, but at least you’ll get paid for production. At least, you once did. Kindly rational overlords who made children sit apart on blacktop during lunch for society’s safety treated the economy like a machine that can be turned on and off. The switch doesn’t seem to be working.

Those who nailed your doors shut to compensate for your dangerous incorrect breathing shrug off damage inflicted, which was the worst symptom of all. Idling apart was for the collective good. Yes, it went collectively bad. But at least you weren’t racist for noticing the atrocities actually committed by a calculatingly diabolical communist outpost.

If you think identifying the culprit who sneezed on everyone is shocking, wait until you hear about everything else. Dissenters were also right that Black Lives Matter is a riot creator based on unfounded white guilt. America is not a racist hellhole any more than it is a kingdom where subjects need a czar’s permission to do anything. Man, 2020 was not fun.

Victims waiting for an apology should take a deep breath. At least it’ll be unfiltered. Your tormenters still think you owe one to them. Sure, we would’ve endured a rough flu by choosing sensible precautions. And governors who claimed they were saving us could’ve skipped shoving the infected into communal residences for the most vulnerable. But they kept you safe aside from the keeping you safe part, and the ideology of control that peaked by dragging us to the nadir is all about promises.

Everything looks bad if you check results, at least according to putzing autocrats. Bossing everyone around turned a problem into a catastrophe. We were told getting tormented would do the opposite. China’s oppressors, pushy American governors, and mendacious journalists all hate awareness of outcomes. Of course they work together.

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Lab Leak Truthers are Pandemic Deniers.

The false internal logic of being mad about a lab leak, but being cool with spreading the virus.

In case anyone hasn’t heard yet, or Robert Redfield wasn’t obvious enough for people, lab leak conspiracy theory is part of the right-wing, anti-democratic, anti-communist, fascist, climate denial, covid contrarian, Great Barrington Declaration, Project 2025, Heritage Foundation, Koch money funded narratives pushed for various financial, political, and geopolitical reasons. It’s all within the same movement. Allison Neitzel points out on Science-Based Medicine that “the GBD and the lab leak were highlighted in the right-wing think tank Heritage Foundation’s “Road Map for COVID-19 Congressional Oversight” published a month ahead of the first HSSCP hearing featuring Bhattacharya.” and that the “GOP-led subcommittee appears to be following this script and has focused on the lab leak…” And people within this movement are looking for any excuse to back up their fascist fantasies, sending out vigilante death squads, or as Ivan Raiklin described it: “livestreamed swatting raids” on public health figures and others on an enemies list.

Jonathan Howard recently published commentary on Science-Based Medicine asking a legitimate question: “why supposedly releasing a deadly virus was mass murder, but intentionally spreading it was a forgivable “policy position.”

Make it make sense, right?

I guess I have to go over how this is explained because if you only know what they’re saying to you — (to “trigger the libs” and such), you don’t necessarily know what they say to each other in their safe spaces, and so then you won’t understand the context of narrative stories that while absolutely false and ill-conceived, do have internal coherence to the adherents.

People buying into this conspiracy fiction and political ideology are led to think that there was a sinister plot to make covid in a lab, but they don’t actually think that the virus itself was the murder part. They believe the lab leak gave cover and excuse for “the deep state” to “do lockdowns” or make people wear masks as some kind of control tactic, and they believe it was ultimately machination to make people get vaccines as a sinister plot to kill people, or at least harm everyone. There are a buffet of potential motives to choose from, but that’s another level of the narrative. The bottom line is, for the diehard lab leak truthers, it’s not spreading covid that kills people, they believe wrongly the vaccines are killing people, and that “lockdowns” harmed people — and that’s how they square it where it makes sense for lab leak truthers to think it’s ok to spread the virus.

So when these pundits or the followers of this stuff say that covid has been “weaponized” many of us may assume that is a tacit recognizing that covid is deadly, but that’s not necessarily the case. Yes there are in fact even right-wingers who recognize covid is bad. I know of Trump voting Republicans and even people into at least some MAGA conspiracy theories who also don’t want to get covid, and some even use masks at their workplace or during the holiday season to avoid it, because they’re living in practical reality. But they’re probably not the same people who believe masks are “lockdown”, or think that kids should go to school sick, or that clinically vulnerable kids needed to be sacrificed and die to stop the sickness spreading. The Qanon conspiracy theory information landscape has a religion-esque type quality in that there’s lots of room for “sects” and for people to treat it like a buffet, picking and choosing which parts to believe. Past polling revealed that when asked about individual conspiracy fictions or ideas that are under the umbrella of Qanon, a lot of people believe some but not others. And that most conservatives believe at least one Qanon concept.

On the Knowledge Fight podcast covering the September 11th Alex Jones show, you can hear Alex Jones sing about supposedly the shots killing people. Anti-vax conspiracy fictions have been made into entertainment and ritual, as well as a motivation for potentially violent mobilization. Alex Jones is also a 9–11 truther as well, who espouses the U.S. government “deep state” was the real perpetrator who collapsed the World Trade Center towers. I’m sorry that I can’t explain how they square wanting retribution against Muslims and Arabs for September 11th, while at the same time NOT blaming them for doing the September 11th attack. I just haven’t really looked into this particular genre of fringe myself. There may be some internal logic, or maybe it’s like when Donald Trump tells obvious lies and his die hard fans don’t care because they feel like “they’re in on it” with him. On the same 9/11/2024 episode of Alex Jones, a caller said that basically he knew the “eating the pets” story wasn’t really true, but he didn’t care because at least it drew attention to “the immigrants” in Ohio. A few days later JD Vance went on national news and more or less said the same: “But yes, we created the actual focus that allowed the American media to talk about this story…”

And so we have no way to know for sure if the lab leak assertions are even genuine or disingenuous, do we?

crossposted from substack

The identification of the researchers linked to the Wuhan Institute of Virology is fueling suspicion for proponents of the lab-leak theory.

See full article at archive.is “Ben Hu, a scientist at the Wuhan Institute of Virology who had done extensive laboratory research on how coronaviruses infect humans, was identified in U.S. intelligence reports as one of the researchers who became ill in November 2019 with symptoms that American officials said were consistent with either Covid-19 or a seasonal illness. None of the researchers died.” “The Federal Bureau of Investigation has assessed with moderate confidence that a lab leak was the most likely origin of the virus and the Energy Department came to a similar conclusion with low confidence. Four other U.S. intelligence agencies assess with low confidence that the virus arose naturally, while the Central Intelligence Agency has been agnostic.“ “The U.S. intelligence community is planning to declassify more information regarding its search for Covid’s origins as soon as this week, under a law that Congress passed and President Biden signed in March. It couldn’t be determined if the declassified intelligence would include the names of the researchers, and representatives for the director of national intelligence declined to comment.” “Hu is noteworthy, current and former officials say, because of his central role in coronavirus research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Further, some of the projects he worked on were funded by U.S. government grants, according to documents acquired through the Freedom of Information Act by the White Coat Waste Project, a nonprofit that opposes taxpayer funded research on animals.“ “The Government Accountability Office noted in a report last week that some of the research at the Wuhan Institute was funded by the U.S. Agency for International Development and the National Institutes of Health. Between 2014 and 2019, about $1.4 million was disbursed for work at the institute by both agencies before such grants were suspended.”