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[dani-the-human]

More ramblings, I can't be stopped!

Yknow when Cale saves Raon and is happy when he finds Raon is still ready to fight? Let me quote it:

Cale liked the dragon because it was so different from him. Growing up an abused orphan, Cale- well, Kim Roksu- had given up. After his childhood, he didn't want to be the main character of a story, like Choi Han was. And, after giving up in the place he called home, he felt too weak to fight against the world.

Being difficult is also a factor in why Cale doesn't want to be a hero, but maybe he doesn't think he can be a hero because he couldn't even protect himself. What he always fails to realize is that he was a child. The fact that he got out of that house ALIVE, without much physical trauma from what I can remember, is a testament to Roksoo's ability to survive.

I also think he wrongly equates giving up to surviving. Again, he was a child. He didn't have money, a job, a way to get a roof over his head, hell he probably didn't even know where his birth certificate was if his uncle even kept that. A child is a dependent, the only thing he could do was live while biding his time to get out of his uncles house and then the orphanage.

But that isn't what a hero does.

Heros are strong, directly confronting whatever stands in their way even in the face of hardship.

But surviving isn't pretty. A lot of the time you just have to take it because, as a child, you don't have supernatural abilities or absurd physical capabilities, and you're dependent on the adults around you for everything. For Cale, this was probably super apparent. With his love for fiction, I wonder just how many books he's read or shows he's watched about some powerful young adult or child fighting off monsters and the like and decided that he wasn't that.

Heros fight, he didn't, he "gave up".

I think he still believes he is in a way. All his plans hindge on living a peaceful life, something he's been working towards ever since he was a kid. It's not until he becomes Cale and gets the shield that he even does anything physically. A lot of his actions are under the table, he's a strategist and more so delegates tasks rather than fighting. Heros also don't do that so another tally to why Cale doesn't think he's a hero, but I digress.

Surviving and being the brains behind something is still fighting. Being alive is still fighting.

What I'm getting at is that Cale believes he's doing the bare minimum, and has been doing the bare minimum since childhood when he had to take his uncle's abuse. He goes on the battlefield because he wants to survive, not out of heroic reasons (or so he believes anyway). He NEEDED to.

If he didn't take his uncles abuse then he'd die on the street. If he didn't fight the monsters then he'd die if they got in. If he didn't change the plot, he'd die in the war coming over the horizon.

He doesn't deserve praise, to be called a hero, because he's simply trying to survive.

[nobutlikeimobessedwithbutchlogan]

Adulting is WILD like tell me why the purchase I was most excited about this week was my IRON AND IRONING BOARD😭

[leshyleaf]

YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PARALLELS BETWEEN OFF AND UNDERTALE-

Just, that whole post has so many great just!!! You know?? Its such a good post, and now I wanna rewatch someone's playthrough of the game.

YEAHHHHH DUDE THERES SO MANY ITS CRAYZAYY.

Off is such a weird, trippy, complicated game (not really gameplay wise, but lore wise, yget me), and I know that toby literally did take some inspo from it, but my neurodivergent brain loves finding the similarities between two things and pointing them out to me like some kind of overexcited bird dog.

If you play undertale blind, you’ll probably kill everything in sight because this is how you have been taught to play rpgs your entire life (assuming you have been playing rpgs a lot lol). Throughout the game, you may slowly realize that what you are doing might not be as neutrally necessary as you once thought. And that actually, you might be making yourself into The Bad Guy by acting this way.

off spoilers below if you mind

Off is like that, but that feeling is obligatory. Whether or not you slowly begin to understand that your objective to “purify the world” isnt really the holy mission you thought it was, (which, if you visit the previous zones after you “purify” them, you might realize this very suddenly), there is no pacifist route. You continue, that’s your only option.

But that absolute wipe of all life; the merciless mass murder of monstrous beings in the pursuit of, well, something…(in both games, the player is a character who is left in the dark about the batter/chara’s true intentions until the end) is one of the biggest similarities between the two games for me.

To expand on the player thing: both in Off and in Utdr, it is purposefully made abundantly clear that the player and the protagonist are two separate entities. In undertale/deltarune, this is slightly more subtle, (but no less true), while in Off, Pablo (the judge), and Zacharie both pretty much only speak to you, not the batter. You are called “the puppeteer.” Even the batter speaks about you, and is aware of his lack of control over his own actions. Unlike some other puppet from deltarune, but much like Kris (minus the snowgrave route), he is unconcerned by this.

Now, deltarune. This is a game where we explore worlds created by something called “The Knight”. We navigate through some crazy imagination land, probably brought into being solely through someone’s determination, their mind expanded outward.

At the end of Off, we find out that the world was already destroyed long before we begin the game, and that we are navigating through some crazy imagination land, probably brought into being by someone (Hugo’s) determination, their mind expanded outward.

I like to connect deltarune and off with these themes of apocolypse and creation, although they seem to be happening in the opposite order. 😳

And damn I mean, not only are a lot of the themes between these games similar, with a similar vibe for secret bosses and puzzles as well, but even in Off’s overworld artstyle you can see, like…especially looking at undertale in comparison: The simple but bold and saturated color schemes, the box-like platforms your character is laid upon…they’re both just really simple but effective,I don’t know how to explain it better lol.

Mannn and don’t even get me stahted on the character parallels :,)…

Two royally-appointed judges with a lazy streak and little brothers? Who have neglected their duties and therefore have to fight you in an epic fkin final battle at the end?

Two younger brothers in law enforcement…ruthlessly killed by something seemingly small and innocent…

Two watchful guardians of their own zones, looking after their denizens, and seeing you, a threat (their duty?) and making it their mission to stomp you out.

Self aware shopkeepers…they know they are in a video game, and lemme tell ya, they are apathetic and sad about it! (And a little crazy too)

Two old entities…leaders, rulers, former lovers. One abandoned their post long ago (one of them to live in the ruins and wait for the protagonist, and one of them to live in the void and…wait for the protagonist), and one rules still, neglectful in their own way without really meaning to be.

I don’t know how to end this rant bwaha. I’m running on 3 hours of sleep cut me some slack 😔🤟

In any case, i love these games a lot lol

I’m responding to this ask woefully late, but yeah, you should totally rewatch it if you haven’t already ^^

[carry-on-my-wayward-butt]

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[geroya]

u know that feeling when ur not in extreme pain anymore & u just wanna run around in a circle as fast as you can yeah?

[ambiguousdisorderken]

oh no a vision of stede calling ed 'my love'... my man would turn into glitter putty so fast

[glitch-e]

Honestly if I had a friend who likes animes and cons as much as i do I'd ditch my other ones HA. And also a friend who likes: picnics, sleepovers, learning dances, lunch dates, AND JUST SPENDING TIME WITH ME without us having to do something in particular. I'd be sold

[bullfroganarchy]

getting rats after only interacting with cats and dogs is such a lesson in animal body language. my boys will nibble my hand and i go 'oh no!' and retract it because instinctively i go bite=bad and my poor ratties go 'why you'd leave :( we were having fun' like damn ok time rewire my brain to not flinch at the hint of teeth.