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[psymachine]

What makes you ship charlie and frank? No judgement, I'm just curious, because in the show its always implied to be more of a father son relationship so I'm wondering like whats appealing. I especially want to know because you're one of the only people I've seen ship them, its so niche.

i'm actually pretty new to shipping charfrank and only became interested in it during the golden bachelor arc last season, but i will try to speak on my feelings lol

first, real talk: i think a large part of the reason it's so unpopular is because it's not "hot" enough. if frank was played by a more conventionally attractive actor, i really do think more people would be on this shit, sorry 💅

second, i kind of don't agree that it's always portrayed as a father/son relationship. like for sure, charlie thought frank might be his dad at one point, and there are some daddy issues at play. but i think for the last few seasons at least, their relationship has been way more spousal than father/son. they've literally been married before. they've had group sex together more than once (wasn't there a joke also about frank being sexual with the charlie mannequin when mac and charlie fake their deaths?). and this last season especially, charlie's reaction to frank wanting to marry a woman and leave him felt way more like a jilted partner than a son, to me at least. i think the father/son thing was always a semi-flimsy explanation for the closeness of their relationship used by the show and by frank and charlie themselves, when convenient.

they're both weirdos with traumatic childhoods who finally found someone that truly gets them and likes them for who they are. frank is pretty homophobic and has a lot of sex with women he doesn't feel much for -- charlie is the longest, happiest partnership of his life. charlie has never had a real romantic relationship and gets confused about boundaries and what his feelings for people mean. i like ships with interesting dynamics to explore, and charfrank just fits the bill.

that said, i can only speak for myself -- i'm sure other people ship them for different reasons!

[psymachine]

Mac visiting college den .. frat activities .. 👀

bro we were so drunk last night

[psymachine]

i think positioning hr as a gay show in opposition of a queer show is like ? bc what does a queer show even means when queer is an umbrella term with 363256262 definitions. its like saying nothing . to me

i'm using queer as a sociopolitical identity here more so than just a sexual/gender identity label.

there used to be gay bars with "no fats, no femmes" signs. there are gay people right now advocating to cut the TQIA from LGB to distance themselves -- the normal gays -- from the weird, annoying queers. you can be gay while still adhering pretty strictly to social & gender norms, which isn't even a problem necessarily until you fail to advocate for the rest of the community or outright turn against them.

what i mean is that a show about (and marketed heavily as) young, muscular, typically masculine, conventionally attractive, mostly white dudes having hot gay romances and hot gay sex is definitely gay, but in the most palatable way possible & specifically meant to appeal to straight people too. which again, i don't even think is intrinsically a problem. i only mean it's over-hyped in terms of being some kind of ground-breaking queer shit, especially for 2025/2026. it's boring to me, the marketing and the way the actors do press makes me question who it's really for, and as a queer person i'm not interested.

[psymachine]

i didnt like it either... it had a couple jokes that made me laugh but eugh

no for sure, it had its moments! i don't even think it was a bad episode concept? like i think it arguably had very classic sunny vibes (obviously, as a callback ep)?? but it just didn't hit for me, idk.

in a way, that fits the themes of the episode though so maybe this is actually mission accomplished...? lmao.

[psymachine]

how would you explain MacDennis to someone who never watched IASIPH ?

two men growing on each other like ivy. they've been breaking each other down for decades, but at this point they're also the only thing holding each other together.

now take that feeling and express it through a homoerotic slapstick comedy routine.

[psymachine]

PLEASE draw dennis putting makeup on mac omg

they start the evening laughing and drunk but soon grow dangerously quiet

[psymachine]

Okay so I've been listening to Alien Superstar by Beyonce a lot lately and...all I can think about is Victoria. So I have this vision of her like, bombshell blonde Old Hollywood Marilyn Monroe style like..in white and furs. Or, diamond lingerie and heels, perhaps. Or all of it.

Anyway I figured I'd LOVE to see your take on this if you'd like to give it a shot!

this isn't exactly what you asked for, but here's what came out lol

[psymachine]

sweet dee soothing a very drunk waitress?

girls' night 💅💋💖