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Nightbringer didn’t change why Lilith was punished in Lesson 12.
I keep seeing people misunderstand Lucifer’s explanation on Lilith. So I wanted to clarify some misconceptions I see being spread around.
In Obey Me Shall We Date we learn Lilith was punished for giving forbidden food from the Celestial Realm to save her sick human lover.
It’s also important to note that angels are prohibited from interfering in the lives of humans.
In Obey Me Nightbringer Lucifer explains,
“I told her she could never visit the human world again. I tried to convince her, but she wouldn’t listen to me. She said that someday the same thing would happen to me. I’d meet someone I loved so deeply that I’d be willing to throw away everything for them. And then I’d finally understand how she felt.”
This means Lilith has already used the forbidden food from the Celestial Realm to save the human she loved. Lilith knew she’d be punished for it but loved this human so much she was willing to throw away everything for him.
Lilith’s conversation with Lucifer, her interfering with the lives of humans, using forbidden Celestial Realm food and her views on humans angered Father.
Especially since they went directly against all that Angels and the Celestial Realm stood for.
Belphegor words it best,
“ . . . You see, Lilith loved humans. She loved humanity as a whole. She used to talk to me about them and how we underestimated them. You know angels and demons are always trying to protect humans, or guide them or whatever? Well, she said that was insulting to humans.”
All of this lead to the decision that Lilith would be given the Celestial Realm’s gravest form of punishment.
This punishment does match the description of the punishment mentioned in Obey Me Shall We Date.
Wiped from existence so that nothing was left. Meaning her existence in the Celestial Realm, Human World and Devildom. She’d lose her wings, be cast down into darkness and unable to be reborn. Forced to wander through the darkness for all eternity.
Lilith was already going to be punished for breaking the rules. The severity of the punishment though was because of Lilith’s love for humans.
This decision was something Lucifer couldn’t understand. Yes Lilith broke the rules but she did it out of love. A love so deep it paired with the brothers.
He believed love was something beautiful. Was the love Lilith felt really so wrong? This ended up leading Lucifer to questioning his Father.
Nightbringer Lesson 11 Lucifer Discussion
I’ve been playing Obey Me for three years and when I saw the dialogue option,
“You’re not actually angry, are you? That’s not it.”
I HIT IT WITHOUT A SINGLE HESITATION!!! BECAUSE I KNOW AND LOVE LUCIFER!!!
And that is the correct option if you want favor with Lucifer!! Sure it may have hurt him that we lied about being a demon but that’s not the problem.
The problem is that because we’re a human we’re on the side on humanity. While Lucifer has pledged allegiance to Diavolo.
Spoiler for Obey Me Shall We Date: Lucifer swore an oath after making a deal with Diavolo. In exchange for his loyalty Diavolo would save his dying sister Lilith by having her reincarnate into a human.
This is something the other brothers are unaware of and why Lucifer calls Solomon disgusting for weaponizing and throwing that in his face.
(Note: While Lucifer has sworn an oath he will always put his brothers above Diavolo.)
Lucifer may be prideful and strict with his brothers but there’s NOTHING he cares about more then them.
So a human who lied to them and has the ability to force them into submission, extract their powers and use it is a MASSIVE threat!!!
A threat he is not wanting to take the risk of especially when it hasn’t been long since he lost his sister Lilith.
When you first approach Lucifer he asks, “Why did you show up when you did? Why did you appear before us?”
He asking why did you come to Devildom now? What are your intentions?! He may ask that but truthfully it doesn’t matter to him. You’re a threat.
A threat he has to eliminate in order to protect his brothers and their new life in Devildom.
Lucifer will lean in your ear and ask right before painfully restraining you.
“Why did you appear before me?” He knows you know his intention. He can’t understand why you searched for him at the Fountain of Knowledge.
What do you want with him?
Because while Lucifer may suppress it and is putting his brothers before it. He has begun developing feelings for the player.
You can later say, “I want to protect all of you.”
Which gains you even more favor with Lucifer because that’s all he wants. He just loves and wants to protect his brothers AND I LOVE THAT!!!!
Us handing him the grimoire IS SUCH A BIG MOMENT!!! Nightbringer players might be unaware but a grimoire is SUCH a big deal!!!
So to hand that over despite the grimoire giving us a major advantage AHHHH MY HEART!!!!
Combined with the player promising to protect them!
Your pledge and actions leave him questioning himself on what’s the right decision. Is trusting you worth the risk it puts his brothers at?
I cannot wait for lesson 12!!! I NEED US TO RESOLVE THIS LUCIFER ANGST SO BADLY!!!!!
Diavolo fans were robbed . . . Imagine getting a scene where we see him dealing with the fact another important person in his life who he has a complex relationship with and many questions for is in a coma. ( ඉ _ ඉ ) THE ANGST!!!!
I LOVE seeing Nightbringer only fans talk about how they’d eat Solomon’s cooking. Completely unaware it causes your heartbeat to skyrocket, the screen to shake and is so rancid MC blacks out.
“ . . . This sandwich is truly awful . . . My tastebuds are crying out in agony, to the point that I’m seeing stars . . . The tips of my fingers are starting to go numb . . . What did he put in these things . . . ? This sandwich is so incredibly awful that I can’t even hear what Solomon’s saying . . . I see my life flashing before my eyes . . . I think this may be the end . . . ”
There’s a reason everyone’s reaction (besides Raphael) to it is this 💀
I mean this in the most positive way though because I think it’s SUPER CUTE you all love Solomon and want to make him happy by eating his cooking!!!
ALSO I FORGOT THEY REFERENCED THIS MEME IN LUCIFER’S 2022 BIRTHDAY EVENT ꉂ (˃̶᷄‧̫ॢ ˂̶᷅๑ )