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VERONICA MARS S02E13
[madison hurt] “fine, I won’t go! don’t worry, I won’t ruin your great party by being present. make sure to give helena my love. I will deal with your father later!”
[angelica holding back tears] “alright, will do. thanks, mum...”
so much for last nights steamy encounter in the kitchen, madison thought bitterly. she’d obviously been a fool to believe that anything had chanced for the better between them after having been intimate with each other after the first time in weeks. I guess ian just had to stick it somewhere, madison figured resentfully. now that she wasn’t even ‘allowed’ to attend a family gathering, what was gonna be next?!
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Veronica Mars 1x11
Most people are too hard on Duncan Kane and his relationship with Veronica. Most people tend to give characters like Logan Echolls and Lilly Kane a free pass. The writers dumbed Duncan down quite a bit in Season 1. He knew how Celeste is with his relationships with women. If his mother knew that he and Veronica were siblings, she could have told him from the very beginning. Since we have seen how smart Duncan is in Donut Run, it would make sense for him to find his mother’s claim on he and Veronica being brother/sister very suspicious and out of the ozone. Duncan&Veronica are no Dan&Serena. Yeah, his sister, Lilly, has a more outspoken personality than Duncan, but that is no excuse and reason to paint Duncan as the worst one out of the two. Lilly was the rebel of the family. In the episode, The Girl Next Door, Veronica had asked Lilly to talk to Duncan to figure out why he broke up with her so abruptly. The next day it was very obvious that Lilly knew the reason, but didn’t tell Veronica anyway. Perhaps, Logan also knew of that reason and didn’t tell Veronica, too. I see posts about people criticizing on how Duncan handled the break up by withholding information from her. If people were to say that he was so bad on that, then people should say the same about Lilly, and Logan, possibly.
We see in the exact same episode on Logan and Weevil being all buddy buddy with each other over their African-American teacher being a tight ass on them, giving them detention. The process of them becoming all buddy buddy was a bit slow due to their opposite beliefs on how things should run in the world. When they bonded over their dislike for Mr. Daniels, they decided to damage the teacher’s car by putting it over the flagpole. The result got Weevil expelled up until Logan confessed his part of prank. They then have to paint over the graffiti. While they were starting up, Logan sees a tattoo of Lilly’s name on Weevil’s back and gets pissy over it. Later on in the season, he gets involved with his best friend’s(Duncan) ex-girlfriend. Two years later he sleeps with one of his best friend’s(Dick) serious ex-girlfriend. He gets mad at Piz for being with Veronica, and Duncan for getting back together with Veronica. It’s as if his feelings matter more than any of his friends as long as his dick gets pleasure, which would make him as a horrible friend in that aspect. Duncan gets pissed at Logan over Veronica. Dick gets pissed at Logan over Madison Sinclair.
Most people shit over Duncan at what happened at Shelly Pomroy’s party. What he did in that episode wasn’t his fault. He wasn’t even in his right mind since one of his drinks(or more) have been laced with GHB. Logan and the other people in that crowd weren’t doing Veronica any good service. They used her as a toy for their own amusement, and didn’t care about the repercussions. If anything Dick let her make out with him. Madison spat in her drink and wrote SLUT on her car. Beaver actually raped her. He was in his right mind, and in that right mind he had sex with Veronica without her consent. There was no excuse on that. Logan and Dick got Veronica wasted. They had women and men doing body shots on her without her consent. Logan and Dick were the reason why Duncan and Veronica had sex that night. BOTH Veronica and Duncan weren’t in their right mind that night. Their inhibitions were lowered that they couldn’t process anything the right way. Yeah, Duncan was given false information about Duncan’s relations to Veronica by his mother, but he wasn’t in his right mind that night. If Dick and Logan weren’t using Veronica as their toy for the night, Duncan wouldn’t have to play the hero to Veronica that night. Duncan told his friends to leave Veronica alone. If it weren’t for him to tell them that, they would have to proceed to use her as a toy for their own amusement. Another valid comparison between Beaver’s and Duncan’s actions on having sex with Veronica is that she looked willing to consent to Duncan. With Beaver, Veronica was completely knocked out. He didn’t care. He just decided to unbuckle his belt, unbutton his jeans, and unzipped his fly to then proceed to have his dick inside of Veronica’s vagina. Beaver had no remorse towards his actions toward Veronica that night while Duncan clearly did.
Some of the fandom shits on Duncan for his behavior on Veronica after the break up. They only put the blame all on him for how his own friends made a mockery of her when she picked to stick by her dad’s side. Logan has shown to taunt her and taking dibs at her while Duncan had told him to stop. Duncan still cared about Veronica throughout Season 1. It is just he had to be dumbed down in order for a storyline that wasn’t needed to happen. Again, it is highly suspicious of Celeste to bring up such unsettling information while one of her offspring was in a relationship with Veronica. Veronica to me has Keith like qualities in her. I don’t see any Jake in her.
Most of the VM fandom pays more attention to Logan’s trauma from his dad. I don’t condone what his father did to him, abusing him, enticing his dead girlfriend, and neglecting his mother. I honestly wouldn’t want that from any of my parents. Duncan had some abuse from his parents and trauma from them as well. Jake appeared to be out to get the Mars family. Celeste was a worse parent than Jake. But they were both bad parents. You remember the ep where they're at the dinner table and he brings up Molly, their dog-and says they got rid of her because she ate one of Celeste's flowers, or something like that? Then Jake was always trying to control Duncan-by putting his name in for class President and he didn't even know it? Telling him life goes on...not understanding his grief over losing his sister like that? Just horrible parents. Very controlling. And just plain mean, when the kids didn't act a certain way like they were supposed to. Duncan has some mental problems that he has to take medication for them. Seeing people shit on a guy with mental problems, yet praise a man who has some problems who doesn’t have to take any medication just doesn’t really do it for me.
Most people often bring up the fact that Duncan never told his parents that he got back together with Veronica. I actually understood his reasons. It was never like he was embarrassed by being with Veronica or ashamed by the relationship. He loved Veronica to the moon and back. It is just that he knows that his mom told him a bullshit lie about he and Veronica being related, and how she is about the relationship. Like I’ve said that his parents tend to be controlling and close minded towards him. I have been through the same thing, but without a paternity reveal.
If the people who are too harsh on Duncan, they have to not be so blind sighted by Logan and own up to his defaults because I know damn well that he has some!
LOGAN ECHOLLS HEADCANONS TOPIC: HOOKING UP WITH MADISON SINCLAIR
for starters, this blog won’t be seeing the ASPEN hookup of logan & madison as canon. this will be ignored for the following reasons:
while logan did have a fair share of hookups after breaking up with veronica, there is no interest or desire to rekindle any old friendships with the 09ers.
logan at this time had been the one who broke up with veronica. there would be no rhyme or reason in him doing something to get her to HATE him.
that being said, logan would never interact with someone that so intently made veronica’s life a living hell unless it was to bring attention to that.
on top of that, it’s clear through out the first and second season that there’s not much of a connection between madison and logan other than her relationship with dick. he’s not seen gathered around for her birthday or at her birthday party. this makes any belief they’ve be hanging out in college unbelievable unless she was there with dick.
dick being the next reason is another big one. while logan and dick both can have their heartless moments, after cassidy’s death, logan would never do something to directly upset or cause ill towards dick, the one person he sees as his friend. just as veronica is off limits to dick, madison would be off limits to logan.
this is just my ted talk, pointing out a major hole in which RT tried to make logan unredeemable again.
